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[Joram Talid]

HistoryEdit
The Citadel Council
made first contact with the batarians in approximately 200 BCE, and
granted the batarians an embassy on the Citadel a century later. Despite
being welcomed into the galactic community, batarian aggression
provoked several crises in galactic relations over the years. Sometime
around 1785 CE, a batarian fleet bombarded the salarian colony world of Mannovai; in 1913, the Batarian Hegemony annexed the independent asari colony of Esan; and in 2115, Citadel forces skirmished with batarian forces on the planet Enael.
In the early 2160s, humans began to colonize the Skyllian Verge, a region the batarians were already actively settling. The batarians asked the Citadel Council to intervene and declare the Verge an area of "batarian interest". When the Council refused, the batarians closed their Citadel embassy and severed diplomatic and economic relations, becoming an inward-looking rogue state.
Money and weapons funneled from the batarian government to
criminal organizations led to many brutal raids on human colonies in the
Verge, culminating in the Skyllian Blitz of 2176, an attack on the human capital of Elysium by batarian-funded pirates and slavers. In 2178, the Alliance retaliated with a crushing assault on the moon of Torfan,
long used as a staging base by batarian-backed criminals. In the
aftermath, the batarians retreated into their own systems, and are now
rarely seen in Citadel space.



so that is their history. they are clearly a very aggressive species, but that is in their nature.
i like the fact that they are very agressive; not unlike the krogans. the big difference in the two, is that one is viewed as a small non-threatening species(due to the genophage, and the seemingly krogan acceptance of this), while the other is viewed as a species with the capability of guerilla warfare, effective even against the entire galactic fleet(maybe not total victory, but nothing you want to dip your toes in).
they don't fit into the 'happy happy joy joy' world, which is why i like them. they are the underdogs, like the neanderthal's were hundreds of thousands of years ago. i choose to root for them.

[Joram Talid]

^awesome gif. i expected no less.

[mineralica]

For a not so "sunshine and bunnies" species I'll pick turians with their military doctrine and readiness to kill every civilian on their way. They're like hammer of Council and their actions aren't always pleasing but at least keep peace.

For batarians... even the beginning of their co-existing with Council was foiled with attacks. When humanity appeared, they can't do anything but run and whine to galactic community, even knowing it were they who did the same penetrating in the sphere of interests of Council races before. They're pathetic in inability to start full-fueled war and only can sting by attacking unprotected civilians. They're disgusting in claims that "slavery is inexplicable part of culture and society".

If it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3, batarians are no-brainer for me.

[Winterfly]

Batarians are scum indeed.



The krogan is some what honourable, they might be savage but they be savage to you openly, they don't stab you in the back. While the batarian will blow up your house, kidnap your daughters and mothers, shot your son, eat your dog and then fly of to the field where you arranged that duel one versus one, of course he brings his gang in to help in this one versus one.

[adam_grif]

You humans are all racist.

[armass]

mineralica wrote...

If it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3, batarians are no-brainer for me.

So you would judge an entire species, including their civilians and children on a basis of some corrupted goverment and pirate slavers in Terminus systems? Lots of human civilizations still have slavery and hostility, doesnt mean i would like to totally wipe them out because of the bad apples.

Batarian civilians are like the ones in north korea, they only know what they need to know told by their facist goverment. I doubt they all are evil merciless slavers.

Modifié par armass, 22 janvier 2011 - 10:56 .

[mineralica]

armass wrote...

mineralica wrote...

If it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3, batarians are no-brainer for me.

So you would judge an entire species, including their civilians and children on a basis of some corrupted goverment and pirate slavers in Terminus systems? Lots of human civilizations still have slavery and hostility, doesnt mean i would like to totally wipe them out because of the bad apples.

Batarian civilians are like the ones in north korea, they only know what they need to know told by their facist goverment. I doubt they all are evil merciless slavers.

Let me try again: if it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3. I don't say I'm willing to kill them all just because all batarians we see in ME1 and 2 are slavers/terrorists/etc. I understand that majority of them only think and do that government allowed them to, but even this and the fact that I'm also from country may easily be compared with North Korea don't make me want to sacrifice any other race, which are pretty normal, for saving batarians.

[HyenaLobo]

......if you are gonna just post an entire article from the Mass Effect Wikia, that is actually from the in-game database, at least give credit to your sources. Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.

Also, Batarians can suck it. They are slavers, they killed my whole family and made me dance to awful tunes.

Modifié par HyenaLobo, 22 janvier 2011 - 03:29 .

[JaegerBane]

armass wrote...

mineralica wrote...

If it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3, batarians are no-brainer for me.

So you would judge an entire species, including their civilians and children on a basis of some corrupted goverment and pirate slavers in Terminus systems? Lots of human civilizations still have slavery and hostility, doesnt mean i would like to totally wipe them out because of the bad apples.

Batarian civilians are like the ones in north korea, they only know what they need to know told by their facist goverment. I doubt they all are evil merciless slavers.

It doesn't help that the batarian species seem to be alone in being a species that have no positive characteristics whatsoever. Even things like the Rachni, the Geth and the Krogan all have some pretty positive aspects to their character while Batarians don't seem to have anything going for them.

Their tech is apparently very low-end.
Their culture is vile.
Every single confrontation they've instigated has been a disaster for them.

I think the point is that, if a the destruction of a species is required to prevent the Reaper's victory, the batarians are the logical choice, as they've just got nothing to offer.

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Batarian squadmate for ME3.

[armass]

JaegerBane wrote...

armass wrote...

mineralica wrote...

If it will be necessary to wipe any race out in ME3, batarians are no-brainer for me.

So you would judge an entire species, including their civilians and children on a basis of some corrupted goverment and pirate slavers in Terminus systems? Lots of human civilizations still have slavery and hostility, doesnt mean i would like to totally wipe them out because of the bad apples.

Batarian civilians are like the ones in north korea, they only know what they need to know told by their facist goverment. I doubt they all are evil merciless slavers.

It doesn't help that the batarian species seem to be alone in being a species that have no positive characteristics whatsoever. Even things like the Rachni, the Geth and the Krogan all have some pretty positive aspects to their character while Batarians don't seem to have anything going for them.

Their tech is apparently very low-end.
Their culture is vile.
Every single confrontation they've instigated has been a disaster for them.

I think the point is that, if a the destruction of a species is required to prevent the Reaper's victory, the batarians are the logical choice, as they've just got nothing to offer.

Batarians are alone as in no positive characteristics, huh? What about the vorcha, yagh or krogan(well krogan have Wrex but otherwise they seem to be just violent brutes)? Batarians as a whole at least seem more civiliced than any of those races i mention since they kept their citadel place for almost 2 millenia. At least they dont fight and kill eachother all the time over food and personal space(like vorcha), nuke themselves back to the stone age or try to take over the galaxy in a sea of blood(krogan) or slaughter the first contact team coming to their home planet to welcome them to galactic community(yahg).

Even geth would be seen more as vile if no one knew about the true geth and only the heretics, ie. how majority of quarians see them now. Have you not helped that batarian plague victim in Mordins mission? He totally seemed to change his worldview on humans after u helped him. What makes you think other batarians if educated wouldnt do the same?

You cant just call their culture vile, you have almost no basis to say that. And how much do you know about batarian culture anyway? It is true they have a caste system and slaves but some human cultures do to(India, African countries, south american countries, China), and I bet still in the 23rd century. I wouldn't call our own planets "3rd world"  cultures "vile", doing that would be so ignorant.

And where is it said that their technology is low-end?

Modifié par armass, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:12 .

[Uszi]

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Batarian squadmate for ME3.

This.
And hopefully he's still  the human hating, rascist kind.

"Thanks for saving my ass Shepard.  But you are still doomed."

[Legbiter]

Batarians need to be eradicated down to the last roachling.

[MarchWaltz]

There was a batarian on Garrus' punisher squad.



They cant be all bad.

[Layzr]

they arent underdogs, they decide to become terroists and cry when they get owned

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Uszi wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Batarian squadmate for ME3.

This.
And hopefully he's still  the human hating, rascist kind.

"Thanks for saving my ass Shepard.  But you are still doomed."

Also I want him to say that while he's on Shepard's team fighting for the same goal, he'd be watching over Shepard.

With all his four eyes.

[Annihilator27]

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Uszi wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Batarian squadmate for ME3.

This.
And hopefully he's still  the human hating, rascist kind.

"Thanks for saving my ass Shepard.  But you are still doomed."

Also I want him to say that while he's on Shepard's team fighting for the same goal, he'd be watching over Shepard.

With all his four eyes.

Uses four fingers to point at his eyes and then back at Shepard.........

[Schneidend]

All I can say is that my canon Paragade Shep is a Mindoir survivor and "the Butcher of Torfan." As a result he really, really hates batarians.

We really haven't seen any batarians who aren't complete and utter scum bags in any canon materials except maybe for Marsh, the Omega merchant whose only crime is charging way too much for a pair of pants that make you run faster.

I'd like a batarian squadmate or other NPC with a significant role who is a hardass, but isn't a totally irredeemable piece of living garbage.

Modifié par Schneidend, 22 janvier 2011 - 08:20 .

[oldag07]

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Batarian squadmate for ME3.

Agreed!  just to spite all of the hatred on this thread.

[Cru Hunter]

Wouldn't mind seeing a batarian as a squad mate in the next game. Just don't ask me to do the whole romance thing with them.

Wearing glasses must be a pain in the *ss for Batarians.

[CARL_DF90]

Moot point. I really HATE batarians regardless.

[JKoopman]

How can anyone compare batarians to krogan and say they're the same? Krogan are savages but they have honor. Batarians are just smug, self-serving terrorists who believe they're superior to the rest of the galaxy for no other reason than because they have an extra set of eyes.

Like Zaeed says, a krogan will come at you and rip your face off, but he'll be up front about it; a batarian will stab you in the back, kill your family and then drop an asteroid on your planet without a second thought.

Batarians aren't noble or proud. They're petulant children that throw tantrums whenever they don't get their way, only their idea of "tantrums" usually involve fleet engagements and asteroid drops.

Modifié par JKoopman, 22 janvier 2011 - 11:43 .

[IrishGunman]

Batarins suck

[wrexfan32hanalei]

Krogan are like a totally badass combo of vikings, WW2 US marines, and dragons. Batarians are a combo of north korea/terrorists. it's like comparing Audie Murphy to john wayne gacy because they both killed some people.