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[Ravenmyste]

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Skyrim will undoubtedly blow DA2 away in awards (and sales). Then there's also ME3, which I'm pretty sure will get the rest of the awards. As for The Witcher 2, it's a PC exclusive, meaning it'll be nominated in only a few categories.

Then there's also Deus Ex: Human Revolution... (though I don't think sites will categorize it as an RPG)

And finally there's Diablo 3, which will pretty much destroy everything in it's sight.

I'll be really surprised if DA2 gets even 1 award with all that competition, as DA2 is looking to be the worst of the bunch
(not saying that DA2 will be a bad game, just not as good as all the other AAA RPGs coming in 2011)

We know next to nothing about Skyrim and yet you're asusming it'll be the best RPG of the year? If it's as shallow as Oblivion then it won't be.

? Oblivion was very well received (94% on gamerankings and 94/100 on Metacritic) so I bet Skyrim will be great. But yeah we can't judge which one will be best when none of them are out yet.

Critic reviews don't mean sqaut. Many users agree that Oblivion is overrated trash compared to the brillance that is Morrowind. But we're going a bit off-topic here now.

I thought you'd say that.

So here you go: 36,735 users on Gamespot gave their scores for Oblivion and it averaged 9.4 (coincidentally the same score as the critics gave).

btw can you post a link to show me this legion of people who think that the game is bad?

same here i rather see a actual game review oblivion that claims its was bad.. and the witcher i havent seen any  real game footage  as of yet to say anyhting i like it but i dont think it will beat out dao2

[Bad King]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Bad King wrote...


Mass Effect 2 came out about 4 years after Oblivion. Mass Effect 1 is a fairer comparisson. Mass Effect 2 fixed the flaws of Mass Effect 1 and Skyrim will fix the flaws of Oblivion.

Oblivion was already a sequel to a sequel. I don't think that has to be taken into consideration.

But Morrowind-Oblivion was a bigger jump than Oblivion-Skyrim.

[Piecake]

simfamSP wrote...

Yeah, I agree with you entierly, I think this may be the reason Bioware has changed many things for this year, if not, well atleast I came up with an excuse

Edit: Oblivion wasn't a bad game, it was souless, but still very beautiful and well designed. Morrrowind is far superior is all rights but still Oblivion had it's moments. Skyrim will be the same, but will I still lose my life for it? Ofcourse, because the key to Bethesda is:

1. Dramatic Music
2. Open Worlds
3. Character Development
4. Dramatic story (Oblivion's wasn't good, but still, you have to admit it was all very 'over the top')

But it's sad, the reason why these get such good sales is because of 14 year olds who play the game for all the wrong reasons (and if your a 14-15-13-12-10 year old who doesn't, then thank you ). Or have you seen the majority of the Oblivion fan base, they claim Risen is Oblivion 5! silly billy's. Diablo 3 hopefully will have a better fanbase than most Billzard games.

Character development?  Do you mean stats or actual character in the literary sense, because while its been a while, I dont remember character development being one of  Morrowind's strong suits since I thought one of the big draws was to develop your own character.

[Bryzon]

I'm looking forward to the three games the OP has mention, as well as ME3, Daggerdale, and Dungeon Siege 3. This will be a very good year for the RPG.

[Night Prowler76]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Bad King wrote...


Mass Effect 2 came out about 4 years after Oblivion. Mass Effect 1 is a fairer comparisson. Mass Effect 2 fixed the flaws of Mass Effect 1 and Skyrim will fix the flaws of Oblivion.

Oblivion was already a sequel to a sequel. I don't think that has to be taken into consideration.

Sure Oblivion was a sequel, but it also was basically a launch title for the Xbox 360, there wasnt a huge user base when it came out like there was when ME2 came out, so you cant compare sales at all. ME2 is a good game, but its not on the same level as Oblivion was.

[Da_Lion_Man]

DarthCaine wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Why wouldn't DE3 be considered an RPG? Its predecessors were considered RPGs and this one looks like it's inspired from the first Deus Ex so...

I consider them RPGs, however sites like GameSpot for example don't categorize them as such

I see, they consider the game an FPS. But still, that doesn't make much sense to be honest, especially if it's as inspired on the first Deus Ex as the creators say.

[astreqwerty]

da cant compete with the rest of the rpg releases..its a game developed in less than 2 years i think and that summarizes everything..and while i found oblivion a bunch of overrated **** i gotta agree that for some reason every one is expecting es5 so badly and are so biased towards it that it certainly will gather every award on its way..about diablo?there is no chance it ll be relesead in 2011.but the best rpg of this year is gonna be Witcher 2 i feel it

[Herr Uhl]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Bad King wrote...


Mass Effect 2 came out about 4 years after Oblivion. Mass Effect 1 is a fairer comparisson. Mass Effect 2 fixed the flaws of Mass Effect 1 and Skyrim will fix the flaws of Oblivion.

Oblivion was already a sequel to a sequel. I don't think that has to be taken into consideration.

Sure Oblivion was a sequel, but it also was basically a launch title for the Xbox 360, there wasnt a huge user base when it came out like there was when ME2 came out, so you cant compare sales at all. ME2 is a good game, but its not on the same level as Oblivion was.

I'm not talking sales, I'm talking review-scores. Being a new title to a brand new console is usually an easy way to get a high score otherwise (at least in my experience).

And I need to correct myself, it was a sequel to a sequel to a sequel.

Edit: Anyways, this is offtopic.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:19 .

[Russalka]

Versus threads are forbidden.

Edit: Oh do not mind me, I am groggy and fighting a social issue elsewhere.

Modifié par Russalka, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:21 .

[Rawgrim]

DarthCaine wrote...

Skyrim will undoubtedly blow DA2 away in awards (and sales). Then there's also ME3, which I'm pretty sure will get the rest of the awards. As for The Witcher 2, it's a PC exclusive, meaning it'll be nominated in only a few categories.

Then there's also Deus Ex: Human Revolution... (though I don't think sites will categorize it as an RPG)

And finally (I forgot about this one) there's Diablo 3, which will pretty much destroy everything in it's sight.

I'll be really surprised if DA2 gets even 1 award with all that competition, as DA2 is looking to be the worst of the bunch
(not saying that DA2 will be a bad game, just not as good as all the other AAA RPGs coming in 2011)

The Witcher 2 isn`t PC exclusive. It comes out on xbox360 and (i think) ps3 as well.

[Bad King]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Bad King wrote...


Mass Effect 2 came out about 4 years after Oblivion. Mass Effect 1 is a fairer comparisson. Mass Effect 2 fixed the flaws of Mass Effect 1 and Skyrim will fix the flaws of Oblivion.

Oblivion was already a sequel to a sequel. I don't think that has to be taken into consideration.

Sure Oblivion was a sequel, but it also was basically a launch title for the Xbox 360, there wasnt a huge user base when it came out like there was when ME2 came out, so you cant compare sales at all. ME2 is a good game, but its not on the same level as Oblivion was.

I'm not talking sales, I'm talking review-scores. Being a new title to a brand new console is usually an easy way to get a high score otherwise (at least in my experience).

And I need to correct myself, it was a sequel to a sequel to a sequel.

Edit: Anyways, this is offtopic.

It got good reviews on PC too (not just critic reviews but also user reviews), so I doubt the high score was due to it being an early Xbox 360 title.

Modifié par Bad King, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:25 .

[DarthCaine]

Rawgrim wrote...

The Witcher 2 isn`t PC exclusive. It comes out on xbox360 and (i think) ps3 as well.

No. CD Projekt said a console release MIGHT be possible AFTER the game launches for PC. Why sites like GameSpot list it for consoles is beyond me.

IF it comes to consoles it'll be in 2012

[Rawgrim]

They said xbox360 and ps3 in one of the vids about it on youtube. Some "making of" vid. No idea what gamespot says. I don`t visit the site.

[nightcobra]

DarthCaine wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

The Witcher 2 isn`t PC exclusive. It comes out on xbox360 and (i think) ps3 as well.

No. CD Projekt said a console release MIGHT be possible AFTER the game launches for PC. Why sites like GameSpot list it for consoles is beyond me.

IF it comes to consoles it'll be in 2012

i hope it goes to consoles, and i'm betting it will:whistle:

call it a hunch:innocent:

[GLaDOS-03]

Skyrim .. hands down

[Gavinthelocust]

While I love Dragon Age like it's my own child I'll go with Skyrim, I've been a massive Elder Scrolls fan(not the kind that whines about everything) ever since Daggerfall. Oblivion was great but the immersion was broken every two minutes because of a sloppy texture, lazy AI coding, robotic animations, and ridiculous character models. Looking forward to Skyrim to fix that, and based on what we've seen I think it will.

Modifié par Gavinthelocust, 22 janvier 2011 - 02:01 .

[Master1982]

The Witcher II is The Game 2011 :-) Geralt is The Best coolest Charakter hat a deeper Storyline and more Konsequenzes , and Great Music! I Love The World From Andrew Sapkowski, DA2 - TW II and The Winner is=? greetings

[Amyntas]

Skyrim is the clear winner for me. I would kill for Fallout 4, because I prefer the setting, but Skyrim is the next best thing. DA2 gets second place from me for it's story and companions. The graphics are seriously lacking, though. I never cared about the Witcher at all. It's the kind of "mature" game that only people under 18 consider mature because it has ****** and sex cards. (although as a PC gamer, I appreciate a PC exclusive for a change and hope it does well)

Modifié par Amyntas, 22 janvier 2011 - 02:22 .

[Wynne]

simfamSP wrote...

Edit: Oblivion wasn't a bad game, it was soulless, but still very beautiful and well designed. Morrrowind is far superior is all rights but still Oblivion had it's moments.

 I played Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3, and I have to say... I'm just bored with the formula. They haven't changed it enough.

For me to give a crap about Skyrim, I would have to see anything that made me think it would be more storywise than the previous games were. That the characters will actually engage me. That happened a little in FO3, but NV was miles above it.

At this point, Skyrim just seems to me like a microwaved frozen dinner. I know exactly what I'm getting because I've had it before, and if I have any fresher alternatives at all, I'll take them. The abovementioned soullessness of Oblivion and the stagnation of the series as a whole has gotten to me. Thus, it's just DA2 vs. TW2 for me until the time when I hear something that makes Skyrim different from and better than the previous games in a way that has something to do with more than just graphics and bugs.

DA2 is more of a must-have for me than TW2, but only by a little. I am very excited about TW2 as well. Both games will be in my collection when released.

Modifié par Wynne, 22 janvier 2011 - 02:20 .

[Wompoo]

Don't care who wins GOTY or who sells the most... all I know, is this is a great year for rpg gamers. I have DA2, TW2 and Deus Ex 3 all pre ordered and will grab ME3 as well as SWTOR (gods I think that ends my life for one year). There is something for everyone coming. Beats a poor mans rpg diet that we usually get.

Modifié par Wompoo, 22 janvier 2011 - 02:34 .

[ErichHartmann]

Declaring the success of future releases based on screenshots or developer video never ends well. Pre-release hype doesn't impress me. I am cautiously optimistic this will be a very good year for RPGs and plan on buying most of them. Maybe I'll upgrade it to a great year after I have PLAYED them all.

[The Bard From Hell]

I have no faith whatsoever for Skyrim (or however the Hell it's writen), since for me Oblivion was one the worst games ever (mind you, I loved Morrowind). It was shallow, terrible story, and great incosistensy (if someone came to me saying I was the dead emperor's son and that I had to come with them, I would give them the finger and summon an Daedra (the priest admits in a dialogue he knows a lot about Daedra...)). But it was a huge hit, so Skyrim (Oblivion 5, as many call it...) will sell like Hell.

The Witcher 2... Well, that one looks good, I'm looking forward to it. Never played the first one though, my PC barelly handles KotOR. But the game is really action oriented from what I saw in the videos (combo attacks, quick-time-events, stealth like in the Metal Gear series...), so I found it a poor comparison when people want to say it's a "real RPG, unlike DA2, a action focused ****". But I have my faith it will be good.

DA2... I'm a fanatic for the series, I don't doubt I end up buying it for the Xbox and the PC.

[Giantdeathrobot]

 I never cared much for The Witcher (tries too hard to be 'mature' imo, especially on sexual matters, and the sequel looks to be no different) and I have low expectations for Skyrim after the chore that was Oblivion. The LOLDRAGONS stuff that was recently released do nothing to reasure me.

So yeah, DAII, Deus Ex 3 (assuming we count it as a Action RPG, at any rate) and ME3 are the RPGs I look forward to seeing this year (and 3 RPGs in a year is a good average, considering).

And since I am also going to replay the hell out of New Vegas, t'is gonna be a good year.

[Saibh]

Honestly, Skyrim and Dragon Age are so different, why bother to compare? It comes down to genre taste. If you prefer open worlds and a heavy emphasis on sidequest, you'll like ES:V. If you prefer an emphasis characterization and impressive amounts of dialogue, you'll like DAII.

Excusing sharing a medieval fantasy setting, and having a loose definiton of "RPG", they're not enough alike to really compare them.

As for TW2...I don't know, people complain about a fixed protagonist in Hawke, but Geralt is his own character. And I don't even like him. Plus, this forum has soured me to TW...not to mention that one ****** dev that blew his ego up to a million by trying to claim that sex in BioWare games was all CDProjekt's doing.

Modifié par Saibh, 22 janvier 2011 - 03:47 .