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[Uomoz1987]

Saibh wrote...

Honestly, Skyrim and Dragon Age are so different, why bother to compare? It comes down to genre taste. If you prefer open worlds and a heavy emphasis on sidequest, you'll like ES:V. If you prefer an emphasis characterization and impressive amounts of dialogue, you'll like DAII.

Excusing sharing a medieval fantasy setting, and having a loose definiton of "RPG", they're not enough alike to really compare them.

As for TW2...I don't know, people complain about a fixed protagonist in Hawke, but Geralt is his own character. And I don't even like him. Plus, this forum has soured me to TW...not to mention that one ****** dev that blew his ego up to a million by trying to claim that sex in BioWare games was all CDProjekt's doing.

[HoonDing]

Risen 2 will blow all those games away.

[slimgrin]

I consider Skyrim to be the biggest rpg release next year, as long as Diablo 3 doesn't come out.( Yes, I consider D3 to be an action rpg ) I suspect TW2 will be the more innovative of the bunch, maybe even injecting some new life and fresh ideas into the Genre. If D3 comes out, it will undoubtedly sell the most copies.

As to which one does it's thing the best, we may be splitting hairs trying to figure that one out. They all take very different approaches, and they are all made by AAA devs, as far as I'm concerned. I mean lets face it, when it comes to media recognition and awards, I can tell you right now it will go something like this:

Blizzard----->Bethesda----->Bioware------>CD Projekt.

Thats just the hierarchy right now and the nitwit gaming media will reflect that.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 04:08 .

[Phoenixblight]

[quote]Saibh wrote...

Honestly, Skyrim and Dragon Age are so different, why bother to compare? It comes down to genre taste. If you prefer open worlds and a heavy emphasis on sidequest, you'll like ES:V. If you prefer an emphasis characterization and impressive amounts of dialogue, you'll like DAII.

Excusing sharing a medieval fantasy setting, and having a loose definiton of "RPG", they're not enough alike to really compare them.

As for TW2...I don't know, people complain about a fixed protagonist in Hawke, but Geralt is his own character. And I don't even like him. Plus, this forum has soured me to TW...not to mention that one ****** dev that blew his ego up to a million by trying to claim that sex in BioWare games was all CDProjekt's doing.[/quote]
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Add to that Witcher 1 was riddled with bugs so much so you had to wait months and months until they released a patch to make it playable. While Witcher 2 looks great the horrible taste of what Witcher 1 did with all it crashing while saving did for me not sure I want a repeat of that. I am going to wait a couple months after hopefully when Steam has it for sale. 

[HoonDing]

slimgrin wrote...

Blizzard----->Bethesda----->Bioware------>CD Projekt.

Thats just the hierarchy right now and the nitwit gaming media will reflect that.

You might want to put Piranha Bytes before CD Projekt. They're both very small dev studios and CD Projekt has yet to prove they can consistenly release good titles. Piranha Bytes has already entered RPG Valhalla with their Gothic series.

Modifié par virumor, 22 janvier 2011 - 04:14 .

[Saibh]

slimgrin wrote...

I consider Skyrim to be the biggest rpg release next year, as long as Diablo 3 doesn't come out.( Yes, I consider D3 to be an action rpg ) I suspect TW2 will be the more innovative of the bunch, maybe even injecting some new life and fresh ideas into the Genre. If D3 comes out, it will undoubtedly sell the most copies.

As to which one does it's thing the best, we may be splitting hairs trying to figure that one out. They all take very different approaches, and they are all made by AAA devs, as far as I'm concerned. I mean lets face it, when it comes to media recognition and awards, I can tell you right now it will go something like this:

Blizzard----->Bethesda----->Bioware------>CD Projekt.

Thats just the hierarchy right now and the nitwit gaming media will reflect that.

Thus far, I've seen more hype for ME3 than Skyrim...but I'm a tad biased, considering where I hang out.

BioWare will be coming out with three major AAA RPG titles next year. If all three are successes, I do think they'll sweep the awards. Bethesda will only release Skyrim. Unless ME3 or DAII is a failure, I think the excitement over both of those games will override Bethesda.

[Phoenixblight]

[quote]simfamSP wrote...

[quote]Phoenixblight wrote...

[quote]Saibh wrote...

Honestly, Skyrim and Dragon Age are so different, why bother to compare? It comes down to genre taste. If you prefer open worlds and a heavy emphasis on sidequest, you'll like ES:V. If you prefer an emphasis characterization and impressive amounts of dialogue, you'll like DAII.

Excusing sharing a medieval fantasy setting, and having a loose definiton of "RPG", they're not enough alike to really compare them.

As for TW2...I don't know, people complain about a fixed protagonist in Hawke, but Geralt is his own character. And I don't even like him. Plus, this forum has soured me to TW...not to mention that one ****** dev that blew his ego up to a million by trying to claim that sex in BioWare games was all CDProjekt's doing.[/quote]
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Add to that Witcher 1 was riddled with bugs so much so you had to wait months and months until they released a patch to make it playable. While Witcher 2 looks great the horrible taste of what Witcher 1 did with all it crashing while saving did for me not sure I want a repeat of that. I am going to wait a couple months after hopefully when Steam has it for sale. [/quote]

Well remember CDProjekt is tiny compared to Bioware, and they even made a new version with 90% of the bugs fixed, while Bioware, Bethesda, Obsidian and I can name more, who are HUGE, won't fix ****.[/quote]


Umm none of Bioware's are game breaking. Witcher as I said was game breaking you would save and have to cross your fingers that the game wouldn't crash and 9 out of 10 times the game did. You can tell me that the game "is all better now" and that may be so but playing the game brings up those memories and I rather not restart 40 hours to get where I was before I finally gave up. Thankfully I only got the game for 5$. 

Bathesda is known for its bugs in their recent games, its like they don't even QA and just let the fans do the fixing with their mod kit which is just sad for an AAA company. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 22 janvier 2011 - 04:25 .

[L0ckd0wn325]

I'm pretty sure Deus Ex 3 was delayed to 2012.

Skyrim looks amazing though we need more information.

TW2 looks good but it won't succeed as well because it's a PC exclusive.

Dragon Age 2 looks amazing as well.

Though I'm much looking forward to Skyrim.

And I'm sorry but Bethesda is the King of the RPG's not Blizzard.

[slimgrin]

virumor wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Blizzard----->Bethesda----->Bioware------>CD Projekt.

Thats just the hierarchy right now and the nitwit gaming media will reflect that.

You might want to put Piranha Bytes before CD Projekt. They're both very small dev studios and CD Projekt has yet to prove they can consistenly release good titles. Piranha Bytes has already entered RPG Valhalla with their Gothic series.

What matters is we know they can release good ******.

Seriously, I disagree with your take on CD red, but I won't get into it. 

[Quinnzel]

Why can't we all get along?



*Flee's from the rabid mob*

[drahelvete]

Bah! Humbug!
If only Origin or Troika were still around...

I'll probably get all of the games listed in this thread (except Diablo 3, which I don't count as a RPG), but if I know me, I'll only finish DA2.
I've played every single TES game and expansion to date, and I've loved them all (at least after I've installed a few dozen mods), but I've never cared enough about the main plot or the NPCs to actually finish any of the games.

Modifié par drahelvete, 22 janvier 2011 - 04:28 .

[Phoenixblight]

simfamSP wrote...



Can I remind you of this again... Small company, small budget, more limits with infinty engine that was tweaked massivley, and Enhanced Edition.

That may be the case but it doesn't remove the memory I have of WItcher. Bioware when they were starting out didn't have as many issues as that game. 

[weedlink10]

packardbell wrote...

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Skyrim will undoubtedly blow DA2 away in awards (and sales). Then there's also ME3, which I'm pretty sure will get the rest of the awards. As for The Witcher 2, it's a PC exclusive, meaning it'll be nominated in only a few categories.

Then there's also Deus Ex: Human Revolution... (though I don't think sites will categorize it as an RPG)

And finally there's Diablo 3, which will pretty much destroy everything in it's sight.

I'll be really surprised if DA2 gets even 1 award with all that competition, as DA2 is looking to be the worst of the bunch
(not saying that DA2 will be a bad game, just not as good as all the other AAA RPGs coming in 2011)

We know next to nothing about Skyrim and yet you're asusming it'll be the best RPG of the year? If it's as shallow as Oblivion then it won't be.

? Oblivion was very well received (94% on gamerankings and 94/100 on Metacritic) so I bet Skyrim will be great. But yeah we can't judge which one will be best when none of them are out yet.

Critic reviews don't mean sqaut. Many users agree that Oblivion is overrated trash compared to the brillance that is Morrowind. But we're going a bit off-topic here now.

what are you crazy, oblivion wasn't the deepet RPG game, but it was still great, i remember being lost in that world for days, do other game gave you that much quest to do, yeah all the caves were the same, but that game was amazing for its time and still fun to play to this day.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Sorry but I've never been a fan of any TES game and I'm sure Dragon Age 2 will be better than The Witcher 2.

[lostspline]

simfamSP wrote...
If your going to call anybody the King of RPGs it's Bioware, Beth are not the 'king' of RPGs, they are great with
dramatic worlds that are open and free, Blizzard are Tzar of the whole bloody genre.

Troika
were the "king" of RPGs.  At the moment, I would rank them Obsidian,
Bethesda, then Bioware.  Obsidian gets top ranking because FO:NV is my
favorite RPG currently (and they have Chris Avellone).

Nevertheless, I like a lot of different styles of RPGs so I'm excited about both Skyrim and Dragon Age II.

For free exploration of a deep world, I'll have Skyrim.  For great characters, I'll have Dragon Age II. 

Modifié par lostspline, 22 janvier 2011 - 05:35 .

[coolide]

slimgrin wrote...

I consider Skyrim to be the biggest rpg release next year, as long as Diablo 3 doesn't come out.( Yes, I consider D3 to be an action rpg ) I suspect TW2 will be the more innovative of the bunch, maybe even injecting some new life and fresh ideas into the Genre. If D3 comes out, it will undoubtedly sell the most copies.

As to which one does it's thing the best, we may be splitting hairs trying to figure that one out. They all take very different approaches, and they are all made by AAA devs, as far as I'm concerned. I mean lets face it, when it comes to media recognition and awards, I can tell you right now it will go something like this:

Blizzard----->Bethesda----->Bioware------>CD Projekt.

Thats just the hierarchy right now and the nitwit gaming media will reflect that.

Unless things change, Diablo 3 will be exclusively a PC game.  And there's no way that a PC exclusive will outsell a multiplatform game like Skyrim.  No way in hell.  And you can take that to the bank.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Skyrim will undoubtedly blow DA2 away in awards (and sales). Then there's also ME3, which I'm pretty sure will get the rest of the awards. As for The Witcher 2, it's a PC exclusive, meaning it'll be nominated in only a few categories.

Then there's also Deus Ex: Human Revolution... (though I don't think sites will categorize it as an RPG)

And finally there's Diablo 3, which will pretty much destroy everything in it's sight.

I'll be really surprised if DA2 gets even 1 award with all that competition, as DA2 is looking to be the worst of the bunch
(not saying that DA2 will be a bad game, just not as good as all the other AAA RPGs coming in 2011)

We know next to nothing about Skyrim and yet you're asusming it'll be the best RPG of the year? If it's as shallow as Oblivion then it won't be.

? Oblivion was very well received (94% on gamerankings and 94/100 on Metacritic) so I bet Skyrim will be great. But yeah we can't judge which one will be best when none of them are out yet.

Critic reviews don't mean sqaut. Many users agree that Oblivion is overrated trash compared to the brillance that is Morrowind. But we're going a bit off-topic here now.

I thought you'd say that.

So here you go: 36,735 users on Gamespot gave their scores for Oblivion and it averaged 9.4 (coincidentally the same score as the critics gave).

btw can you post a link to show me this legion of people who think that the game is bad?

I agree. I keep hearing here and there that so many users dislike Oblivion yet we have so many USER scores rating it in the 90's and so many mods too.

I found the game very enjoyable... and bad reviews by professional critics could reduce sales significantly, so I wouldn't say they mean 'squat'.

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 22 janvier 2011 - 05:52 .

[Night Prowler76]

If by some chance Bethesda gets their story telling on par with BioWare, DA2 will not even come close to Skyrim. Content wise, DA games in general cant compete with the amount of grinding and leveling in TES games, thats why IMO, I get more value out of them, DAO with all of its DLC still didnt seem like it was long enough compared to Morrowind and Oblivion, and if DA2 is going for the ME2 length with small DLC, YIKES!