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[AlexXIV]

If Skyrim is anyhow like Oblivion I am not going to buy it. The best Bethesda RPG was Morrowind btw., not Oblivion. If Witcher2 is anyway like Witcher1, I am not gonna buy it either. So for me most likely it will be DA2, SWTOR and MassEffect3. And that's it unless either Witcher2 or Skyrim get 9/10 ratings from reviews.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:13 .

[October Sixth]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

It's like walking up to an olympic gold medalist and yelling "YOU SUCK!" because you don't like their hair color.

So, Bioware's sort of like the Kurt Angle of game developers?

[AlexXIV]

October Sixth wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

It's like walking up to an olympic gold medalist and yelling "YOU SUCK!" because you don't like their hair color.

So, Bioware's sort of like the Kurt Angle of game developers?

Depends, who is Kurt Angle?

[Haristo]

AlexXIV wrote...

If Skyrim is anyhow like Oblivion I am not going to buy it. The best Bethesda RPG was Morrowind btw., not Oblivion. If Witcher2 is anyway like Witcher1, I am not gonna buy it either. So for me most like it will be DA2, SWTOR and MassEffect3. And that's it unless either Witcher2 or Skyrim get 9/10 ratings from reviews.

I don't know for The Witchers 2. but Face it : Skyrim will be smaller than Oblivion and somehow, that can mean easier. just look at the Tamriel Map ;



and TEs 6 will be on High Rock because they want to keep those games smaller but beautifull, and Bugless. I somehow liked Oblivion but I agree, this is NOT Morrowind's Epicness level.

[s0meguy6665]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

For awards, since that's Bioware's big thing now. Every time someone makes a critical comment about ME2, some Bioware rep pops into the thread, puts his fingers in his ears and goes "la la la, I can't hear you, look at all these GOTY awards..."

I don't think that's really fair. We always listen to constructive criticism, but we have to listen to that criticism in context. If someone tells us that Mass Effect 2 was a huge failure and made terrible design decisions, we have to acknowledge that not everyone agrees with that sentiment. Perhaps they were terrible design decisions for that one person's preferences, but not everyone.

It's like walking up to an olympic gold medalist and yelling "YOU SUCK!" because you don't like their hair color. "I think you would look better as a blonde, but I recognize that you are a very fast swimmer!" would be a more reasonable sentiment. Put another way, it's the difference between saying "I don't like the Beatles" (which is reasonable) and "The Beatles sucked" (which is not reasonable, as they had a huge impact on music).

Listen to constructive criticism? More like take the previous game, dumb it down, improve graphics, make it shorter to reduce development time but mostly increase profits. In a few generations there'll be nothing left but action games and shooters, with a few dialogue lines to justify calling it an RPG, and you will feel empty inside constantly repeating marketing lies to large video game review corporations who base their rankings of your games on nothing but how much they're paid, and the whims of the marketing/blacklisting department of your master, EA. Your creations will be completely soulless.

[AlanC9]

Haristo wrote...


I Obviously prefer boxed editions. when there is some huge sales on Digital content I buy digitalized. But I really prefer to take everything boxed, you know, to proudly put it on my Library with the rest of them.

Hence Amazon. Looks like it's in stock. For some bizarre reason the 4-in-1 is cheaper than the complete BG2. No printed manuals, maybe?

[AlexXIV]

Haristo wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

If Skyrim is anyhow like Oblivion I am not going to buy it. The best Bethesda RPG was Morrowind btw., not Oblivion. If Witcher2 is anyway like Witcher1, I am not gonna buy it either. So for me most like it will be DA2, SWTOR and MassEffect3. And that's it unless either Witcher2 or Skyrim get 9/10 ratings from reviews.

I don't know for The Witchers 2. but Face it : Skyrim will be smaller than Oblivion and somehow, that can mean easier. just look at the Tamriel Map ;



and TEs 6 will be on High Rock because they want to keep those games smaller but beautifull, and Bugless. I somehow liked Oblivion but I agree, this is NOT Morrowind's Epicness level.

Well I wager Skyrim is big enough to make a good story. Just as long it is not 'Oh no, the Daedra invade again, let's kill them!' like in Oblivion. The whole game felt like a side quest of Morriwind.

[AlanC9]

s0meguy6665 wrote...
Listen to constructive criticism? More like take the previous game, dumb it down, improve graphics, make it shorter to reduce development time but mostly increase profits. In a few generations there'll be nothing left but action games and shooters, with a few dialogue lines to justify calling it an RPG, and you will feel empty inside constantly repeating marketing lies to large video game review corporations who base their rankings of your games on nothing but how much they're paid, and the whims of the marketing/blacklisting department of your master, EA. Your creations will be completely soulless.

And here we see exactly why Bio devs don't bother with the ME board. There's no point to attempting rational discourse with this kind of rhetoric.

[HTTP 404]

despite being bug filled I enjoyed the Elder Scroll games since Daggerfall but I dont think Skyrim will be Earth shatteringly different than oblivion.

Modifié par HTTP 404, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:19 .

[SilentK]

Ahh.... =) good times good times



DA:2 and ME:3. Still love DA:O more than ME but that's just me. Played Morrowind like crazy when that one came out, still the strongest game-memory from that age. Would never try it again though, it would probably ruin the memory just like someone said earlier in the thread. Did anyone else steal pretty stuff and bring it back to your house just for fun? Hubby is really looking forward to Skyrim so I'll most likely play that one as well. There are games that I like but the characters and story in DA makes me come back, I expect DA:2 to have the same effect on me =)

[Herr Uhl]

AlexXIV wrote...

October Sixth wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

It's like walking up to an olympic gold medalist and yelling "YOU SUCK!" because you don't like their hair color.

So, Bioware's sort of like the Kurt Angle of game developers?

Depends, who is Kurt Angle?

I don't know why I know that it is a wrestler, but he is. And he apparently has a gold medal in actual wrestling.

I'll leave this here: Link

[Haristo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Hence Amazon. Looks like it's in stock. For some bizarre reason the 4-in-1 is cheaper than the complete BG2. No printed manuals, maybe?

I'm not a huge Amazon fan, but i'll take a look ! I don't have any Bat-Credit Card but I saw Pre-paid Visa cards that I can buy at the Drug Store (yeah... French Canada's Drug Store are bizarre... Beware Mr. Coutu...). does it work on Amazon ?

[AlanC9]

I don't see why not. A credit card's a credit card.

[dorquemada]

Regarding 3 RPGs in one year - what Mike Laidlaw said. It's a very good thing indeed. As for people for whom boobs=maturity, it always reminds me of this strip.

[s0meguy6665]

AlanC9 wrote...

s0meguy6665 wrote...
Listen to constructive criticism? More like take the previous game, dumb it down, improve graphics, make it shorter to reduce development time but mostly increase profits. In a few generations there'll be nothing left but action games and shooters, with a few dialogue lines to justify calling it an RPG, and you will feel empty inside constantly repeating marketing lies to large video game review corporations who base their rankings of your games on nothing but how much they're paid, and the whims of the marketing/blacklisting department of your master, EA. Your creations will be completely soulless.

And here we see exactly why Bio devs don't bother with the ME board. There's no point to attempting rational discourse with this kind of rhetoric.

It's not really open to rational discourse. It's the inevitable result of market forces, trying to cater to the masses. But we won't mind or notice it all that much, because our expectations will lower every time.

Maybe eventually new companies will jump in to fill the niche vaccuum.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:33 .

[Lethys1]

I would honestly say that The Witcher is a flawless game. Every single aspect of it is just amazing.  The looting and inventory system was great, the alchemy is the best of any game I've ever played, the combat was really fun, and  the character was satisfyingly customizable.  Geralt himself was also amazing.  The choices presented to you were never clear-cut, but you also had sufficient information about the situation to help you.

The choice between the Flaming Rose and the Scoiatael was much more divided than the choice of whether or not to destroy Andraste's Ashes or save Redcliffe, for example.  There was the issue of who to help in the bank robbery in The Wticher.  Do you help the overly oppressed elves and dwarves finally get some respect and wealth, or do you help the Flaming Rose to get back the money to the people it belongs to?  Remember though that the bank used to be a dwarven bank and was forced from its original owner Vivaldi simply because he is a dwarf, and that Vivaldi now supports the robbery.  At the same time, not everyone whose money is in the bank is against elves and dwarves.  You may anger the king if you help the robbery.

Choosing between Shiani and Triss is much more difficult than choosing between the two polar opposites of Leliana and Morrigan.  Do you leave Alvin, the powerful child mage, with the more caring and trusting Shiani, or the worser mother Triss who could help prevent Alvin's magic from becoming problematic?  The investigation in the 2nd and 3rd chapter feels more player involved and affected than anything because you don't necessarily have to find even a quarter of the evidence out there to really make a choice, yet there is more evidence to reward the players who put in time and effort.  Even preparing for which potions to make right before a battle feels like a really important and weighty choice which can affect the outcome.

DA on the other hand is so clear-cut in its decision making that is almost laughable.  Did it have a good story?  Yes, very good actually.  Hard decisions?  Never.  Why?  They barely affect gameplay, and they are morally all very simple and clear-cut.  It is clearly the good guy decision to save the werewolves, destroy the Anvil of the Void, save the mages tower and not invoke the thing that kills them all.  Bhelen or Harrowmont?  Who cares, I get my soldiers either way.  Anora or Alistair?  How about both.  Kill Loghain?  Definitely, I've been chasing that guy all game, don't care he had a sudden change of heart.  Here's a choice; Either destroy the Anvil and make everyone happy, or help this mentally unstable woman create more golems and kill dwarfs.  And also anger my main tank Shale in the process.  How about killing a bunch of clearly innocent mages who could help you in the final battle? Allow Andraste's Ashes to be visited by pilgrims?  Don't care, I'm Dalish.  Even when I was a human, I didn't care because I got the ashes and saved Eamon already.

Clearly I like DA, I'm commenting on the forums.  But Witcher 2 will be the better game, just as the original Witcher is better than DA:O.  I have no doubt about it.  Unless there are major changes from Bioware, which there probably won't be, then Witcher 2 will win.

[Piecake]

AlexXIV wrote...

Haristo wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

If Skyrim is anyhow like Oblivion I am not going to buy it. The best Bethesda RPG was Morrowind btw., not Oblivion. If Witcher2 is anyway like Witcher1, I am not gonna buy it either. So for me most like it will be DA2, SWTOR and MassEffect3. And that's it unless either Witcher2 or Skyrim get 9/10 ratings from reviews.

I don't know for The Witchers 2. but Face it : Skyrim will be smaller than Oblivion and somehow, that can mean easier. just look at the Tamriel Map ;



and TEs 6 will be on High Rock because they want to keep those games smaller but beautifull, and Bugless. I somehow liked Oblivion but I agree, this is NOT Morrowind's Epicness level.

Well I wager Skyrim is big enough to make a good story. Just as long it is not 'Oh no, the Daedra invade again, let's kill them!' like in Oblivion. The whole game felt like a side quest of Morriwind.

Hopefully Skyrim will make good use of vertical height.  That way even though Skyrim is smaller in size than the other two, you might have the same amount of area to explore, not to mention more interesting.  Green fields, hills, and streams got boring real quick.

[Haristo]

Piecake wrote...


Hopefully Skyrim will make good use of vertical height.  That way even though Skyrim is smaller in size than the other two, you might have the same amount of area to explore, not to mention more interesting.  Green fields, hills, and streams got boring real quick.

I somewhat agree with that. But do you know what i'd like to see in one of those games : Fall World. It's always about Summer or Winter, it kinda bore me to death to see the same green fields with flowers or the same boring white valleys of Santa Christ. I want to colours. I want orange, red, Yellow, a nice sunset, powerful colours, a pink/Purp sky with a low sun in it...

even if the map is small like Longueuil i'll buy it ! Even if the story is less interresting than The Force Unleashed II I'll buy... Umm maybe not that far.

because I want FALL ! It's my favorite season ! Apples, Colours, the nice weather, buffets, thanksgiving... 

Modifié par Haristo, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:39 .

[PureGold_Au]

Well Dragon age 2 hands down, I'm so exited about this game that my friends are starting to get annoyed with me for talking about it so much. BUT I'm going to have to buy skyrim as well because Oblivion and Morrowind are definitaly the best.. Non Bioware RPGs i've ever played

[s0meguy6665]

Lethys1 wrote...

I would honestly say that The Witcher is a flawless game. Every single aspect of it is just amazing.  The looting and inventory system was great, the alchemy is the best of any game I've ever played, the combat was really fun, and  the character was satisfyingly customizable.  Geralt himself was also amazing.  The choices presented to you were never clear-cut, but you also had sufficient information about the situation to help you.

The choice between the Flaming Rose and the Scoiatael was much more divided than the choice of whether or not to destroy Andraste's Ashes or save Redcliffe, for example.  There was the issue of who to help in the bank robbery in The Wticher.  Do you help the overly oppressed elves and dwarves finally get some respect and wealth, or do you help the Flaming Rose to get back the money to the people it belongs to?  Remember though that the bank used to be a dwarven bank and was forced from its original owner Vivaldi simply because he is a dwarf, and that Vivaldi now supports the robbery.  At the same time, not everyone whose money is in the bank is against elves and dwarves.  You may anger the king if you help the robbery.

Choosing between Shiani and Triss is much more difficult than choosing between the two polar opposites of Leliana and Morrigan.  Do you leave Alvin, the powerful child mage, with the more caring and trusting Shiani, or the worser mother Triss who could help prevent Alvin's magic from becoming problematic?  The investigation in the 2nd and 3rd chapter feels more player involved and affected than anything because you don't necessarily have to find even a quarter of the evidence out there to really make a choice, yet there is more evidence to reward the players who put in time and effort.  Even preparing for which potions to make right before a battle feels like a really important and weighty choice which can affect the outcome.

DA on the other hand is so clear-cut in its decision making that is almost laughable.  Did it have a good story?  Yes, very good actually.  Hard decisions?  Never.  Why?  They barely affect gameplay, and they are morally all very simple and clear-cut.  It is clearly the good guy decision to save the werewolves, destroy the Anvil of the Void, save the mages tower and not invoke the thing that kills them all.  Bhelen or Harrowmont?  Who cares, I get my soldiers either way.  Anora or Alistair?  How about both.  Kill Loghain?  Definitely, I've been chasing that guy all game, don't care he had a sudden change of heart.  Here's a choice; Either destroy the Anvil and make everyone happy, or help this mentally unstable woman create more golems and kill dwarfs.  And also anger my main tank Shale in the process.  How about killing a bunch of clearly innocent mages who could help you in the final battle? Allow Andraste's Ashes to be visited by pilgrims?  Don't care, I'm Dalish.  Even when I was a human, I didn't care because I got the ashes and saved Eamon already.

Clearly I like DA, I'm commenting on the forums.  But Witcher 2 will be the better game, just as the original Witcher is better than DA:O.  I have no doubt about it.  Unless there are major changes from Bioware, which there probably won't be, then Witcher 2 will win.

I agree with almost everything, the Witcher 2 will leave DA2 a pile of ash in terms of quality. But I wouldn't say Triss was a worse mother than Shiani

[slimgrin]

Well, I'm a obviously a big fan of The Witcher, but it's hardly flawless, and it's reassuring the devs themselves recognize this.

- mediocre combat

- poor ots camera

- bad English translation...really bad.

- unstable, at least in the original version.

- people absolutely hate the sex cards. I didn't mind them, but I won't miss them.

- gambling was unbalanced.

- fist fighting was terrible.

- excessive running around for the main quest.

In spite of it all, a wonderful game and a highly original one, especially for the genre. But it ain't perfect.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:50 .

[s0meguy6665]

slimgrin wrote...

Well, I'm a obviously a big fan of The Witcher, but it's hardly flawless, and it's reassuring the devs themselves recognize this.

- mediocre combat NOPE (translation: it's different)

- poor ots camera NOPE (for the first few seconds when you get used to it)

- bad English translation...really bad. NOPE, atleast not in the enhanced edition, i don't know if it changed from the original

- unstable, at least in the original version. Like so many games but it doesn't matter anymore, because we have the enhanced edition now.

- people absolutely hate the sex cards. I didn't mind them, but I won't miss them. What the hell is there to hate about them?

- gambling was unbalanced. NOPE

- fist fighting was terrible. Not good, but not terrible.

- excessive running around for the main quest. NOPE (subjective, but running around is common in all RPG's, as well as BW's RPGs. I enjoy the scenery, I don't mind.)

In spite of it all, a wonderful game and a highly original one, especially for the genre. But it ain't perfect.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:57 .

[Atakuma]

Quit stating your opinions as facts. You can disagree, but you can't tell him he's wrong.

Modifié par Atakuma, 22 janvier 2011 - 08:00 .

[s0meguy6665]

Atakuma wrote...

Quit stating your opinions as facts. You can disagree, but you can't tell him he's wrong.

Yeah, stating opinions as facts is reserved for people who agree with you.

[Ju13es]

I honestly think Skyrim is gonna come out on top. From what I read its going to be great. Better face models, No more face zoom during conversations, duel weilding of anything you like (two weaopns, weapon spell, two spells) NPC's will actually perform tasks and jobs instead of waiting around, side quests will be tailored to how you play the game, Some NPC's will come talk to you, there is a friendship system and the story sounds much much better than Oblivions.