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[Undertone]

The7Sins wrote...

Buy him the most expensive drink in the galaxy, shake his hand, and thank him fro bringing my ass back from the dead.

This. And probably have a philosophical discussion and what else can be done to put humanity on top.

[Archontor]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Nice and simply. No histrionics or wankish attempts at poetic irony and flaunting presumed superiority.

I approve.

If your going to insult people you could atleast be clear as to whom.

[Dean_the_Young]

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Nice and simply. No histrionics or wankish attempts at poetic irony and flaunting presumed superiority.

I approve.

If your going to insult people you could atleast be clear as to whom.

Or I could let people figure out for themselves if they're falling into a category that deserves contempt.

In this case, people who are indulging in murder-fetish fantasies about how to make TIM's end as painful, brutal, humiliating, or poetically appropriate as possible.

If you do not fit into this category, you have no reason to feel demeaned. If you do fit into this category, you are demeaned..

[SnakeSNMF]

Renegade interupt.





Have crazy Mass Effect sex.

[Archontor]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Nice and simply. No histrionics or wankish attempts at poetic irony and flaunting presumed superiority.

I approve.

If your going to insult people you could atleast be clear as to whom.

Or I could let people figure out for themselves if they're falling into a category that deserves contempt.

In this case, people who are indulging in murder-fetish fantasies about how to make TIM's end as painful, brutal, humiliating, or poetically appropriate as possible.

If you do not fit into this category, you have no reason to feel demeaned. If you do fit into this category, you are demeaned..

But to make a post is ultimately to make a point in my opinion is it not best to make it a clear point?

[Dean_the_Young]

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Nice and simply. No histrionics or wankish attempts at poetic irony and flaunting presumed superiority.

I approve.

If your going to insult people you could atleast be clear as to whom.

Or I could let people figure out for themselves if they're falling into a category that deserves contempt.

In this case, people who are indulging in murder-fetish fantasies about how to make TIM's end as painful, brutal, humiliating, or poetically appropriate as possible.

If you do not fit into this category, you have no reason to feel demeaned. If you do fit into this category, you are demeaned..

But to make a post is ultimately to make a point in my opinion is it not best to make it a clear point?

Since my post was in praise of a particular individual who had just posted, the point was clear: I felt that person's depiction of actions lacked certain traits and therefore was worthy of approval.

Point made.

[Thepeak12]

SnakeSNMF wrote...

Renegade interupt.


Have crazy Mass Effect sex.

hahahhaha

[CroGamer002]

Shepard: Fry you son-of-a-b*tch.

Illusive Man: AAAAARRGH!!!!!

Shepard: That was for Grayson.

[Scimal]

marshalleck wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

Paragon interrupt *BOOM Headshot!*

since when is shooting people without warning a paragon action

Okay, okay, okay. I'll warn him first.

[Deturis90]

Mesina2 wrote...

Shepard: Fry you son-of-a-b*tch.
Illusive Man: AAAAARRGH!!!!!
Shepard: That was for Grayson.

This.

[Archontor]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Nice and simply. No histrionics or wankish attempts at poetic irony and flaunting presumed superiority.

I approve.

If your going to insult people you could atleast be clear as to whom.

Or I could let people figure out for themselves if they're falling into a category that deserves contempt.

In this case, people who are indulging in murder-fetish fantasies about how to make TIM's end as painful, brutal, humiliating, or poetically appropriate as possible.

If you do not fit into this category, you have no reason to feel demeaned. If you do fit into this category, you are demeaned..

But to make a post is ultimately to make a point in my opinion is it not best to make it a clear point?

Since my post was in praise of a particular individual who had just posted, the point was clear: I felt that person's depiction of actions lacked certain traits and therefore was worthy of approval.

Point made.

And yet you still made it read as an insult to others as opposed to that particular post- which is needlessly vague.

[Dean_the_Young]

Then your reading skills aren't up to par. I was referring to a singular person, whom I immediately followed in the order of posts, and singled that person out for praise.



If you read it as an insult to others... well, that's your own fault. Maybe you feel not being praised is an insult. Maybe you feel that if someone who is different from you is getting praised, then that's an implicit insult to you. I don't know, but it really isn't my problem. If you wish to feel insulted, who am I to stop you?

[Archontor]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Then your reading skills aren't up to par. I was referring to a singular person, whom I immediately followed in the order of posts, and singled that person out for praise.

If you read it as an insult to others... well, that's your own fault. Maybe you feel not being praised is an insult. Maybe you feel that if someone who is different from you is getting praised, then that's an implicit insult to you. I don't know, but it really isn't my problem. If you wish to feel insulted, who am I to stop you?

You see insulting my reading skills is not exactly the best way to convince me you're not being impolite, secondly you made a a similar post directly below a post of mine so yes I determine that there was an implied insult, finaly your 'compliment' was saying that it lacked bad traits not that it possessed good ones so it does seem like a poor way of icomplimenting someone unless you also whished to insult someone or a group as whole.

Also going back to your original post were you mentioned "presumed superiority" I shall assume you ment moral superiority- the problem is as a paragon,paragade or questionably renegade you almost certainly do  (I.E no tortuous expirents no kidnapping children, no thresher maw attacks, no assassinating Alliance officials that get in the way.)

Modifié par Archontor, 21 février 2011 - 07:44 .

[Suron]

he dies. he's the leader of a group of terrorist ****'s



he's space hitler



space hitler dies.

[FaargAnNorgnal]

Good and evil are subjective concepts, Archontor.



Anyway, what would I do if I met TIM face to face?



I don't know, but I wouldn't be hostile. I might shake his hand even. TIM and I are on the same page.

[Suron]

FaargAnNorgnal wrote...

Good and evil are subjective concepts, Archontor.

Hitler didn't think he was evil either.

nor do Al'Queda

they're terrorists..end of discussion...and TIM dies if I get within shooting range of him.

[Archontor]

FaargAnNorgnal wrote...

Good and evil are subjective concepts, Archontor.

Anyway, what would I do if I met TIM face to face?

I don't know, but I wouldn't be hostile. I might shake his hand even. TIM and I are on the same page.

well I'm aware they're subjective but It's still easier to justify say (spoilers) letting the autistic guy (his name escapes me) go to grissom academy then letting cerberus continue the experiment. (spoilers end)

[FaargAnNorgnal]

Suron wrote...

Hitler didn't think he was evil either.

I'm sure that you don't think that you're evil but there are most certainly people on this planet who do.

Like I said, it's subjective. The point isn't that you shouldn't condemn these actions, but that you shouldn't put subjective labels on them. "Evil" is a word that carries no real weight or meaning because it can be and often is applied to almost anything.

Archontor wrote...

well I'm aware they're subjective but
It's still easier to justify say (spoilers) letting the autistic guy
(his name escapes me) go to grissom academy then letting cerberus
continue the experiment. (spoilers end)

I disagree completely but to each his own.

Modifié par FaargAnNorgnal, 21 février 2011 - 07:59 .

[Archontor]

FaargAnNorgnal wrote...

Suron wrote...

Hitler didn't think he was evil either.

I'm sure that you don't think that you're evil but there are most certainly people on this planet who do.

Like I said, it's subjective. The point isn't that you shouldn't condemn these actions, but that you shouldn't put subjective labels on them. "Evil" is a word that carries no real weight or meaning because it can be and often is applied to almost anything.

Archontor wrote...

well I'm aware they're subjective but
It's still easier to justify say (spoilers) letting the autistic guy
(his name escapes me) go to grissom academy then letting cerberus
continue the experiment. (spoilers end)

I disagree completely but to each his own.

Well you see my point- some paragon options are more easy to justify than their apropriate renegade choices.

[Abispa]

After reading the notes that the SB had on TIM, I'd think all you players who like playing a horn-dog Shepard would consider stealing his little black book.

Modifié par Abispa, 21 février 2011 - 08:24 .

[FaargAnNorgnal]

Archontor wrote...

Well you see my point- some paragon options are more easy to justify than their apropriate renegade choices.

I understand your point. It is not a difficult notion to grasp. However I do not think you did a good job justifying it.

I could go back and forth with you on Overlord forever and probably on any other Paragon/Renegade decision you'd care to bring up.

We're dragging the thread off-topic though.

[Archontor]

FaargAnNorgnal wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Well you see my point- some paragon options are more easy to justify than their apropriate renegade choices.

I understand your point. It is not a difficult notion to grasp. However I do not think you did a good job justifying it.

I could go back and forth with you on Overlord forever and probably on any other Paragon/Renegade decision you'd care to bring up.

We're dragging the thread off-topic though.

Fair enough I just wanted to provide an example as opposed to debating the morality system of Mass Effect 2

[Konfined]

Chewin3 wrote...

TIM: "So, Shepard. We finally meet face to face. What are you gonna do now?"
Shepard: "I think I'm gonna...*puts on sunglasses*...assume direct control"
YEAAAAAAAAH

This bore repeating.  As for the topic, I wouldn't waste my time on him when there are bigger things to kill.  Grunt wouldn't appreciate the detour.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I hope there's an option to AT LEAST punch him if you're a Sole Survivor.

[Dean_the_Young]

Archontor wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Then your reading skills aren't up to par. I was referring to a singular person, whom I immediately followed in the order of posts, and singled that person out for praise.

If you read it as an insult to others... well, that's your own fault. Maybe you feel not being praised is an insult. Maybe you feel that if someone who is different from you is getting praised, then that's an implicit insult to you. I don't know, but it really isn't my problem. If you wish to feel insulted, who am I to stop you?

You see insulting my reading skills is not exactly the best way to convince me you're not being impolite, secondly you made a a similar post directly below a post of mine so yes I determine that there was an implied insult, finaly your 'compliment' was saying that it lacked bad traits not that it possessed good ones so it does seem like a poor way of icomplimenting someone unless you also whished to insult someone or a group as whole.

Since my praise post did include note of good (the first three words being 'nice and simple'), your reading skills are less a matter of insult and more a matter of fact.

Also going back to your original post were you mentioned "presumed superiority" I shall assume you ment moral superiority- the problem is as a paragon,paragade or questionably renegade you almost certainly do  (I.E no tortuous expirents no kidnapping children, no thresher maw attacks, no assassinating Alliance officials that get in the way.)

As someone who does not deem torturing and dehumanizing someone before killing them in a self-satisfying manner as ever justified, no. I don't find you in a morally supperior position if you do that.  For similar reasons and reasonings that I would not find youmorally superior in raping a serial killer in the process of arresting him or her. What you are doing has nothing to do with justice or accountability, and everything about personal gratificaction.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 21 février 2011 - 09:46 .