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[Suron]

...because even if they had a "concept" of what they look like without the suits...with all the Tali stalkers out there if they reveal them and they're really really alien looking there will be a nerdrage of biblical proportions....

If you actually look at the helmet they seem pretty "featureless" no hair, glowy eyes, etc.

IF they reveal a Quarian that is NOT Tali...see above.

If they reveal Tali and she's really attractive it's obvious they just gave in and made her such because of the Tali Stalkers.

hence..why we should NEVER see any Quarian.

and yes..I'm a Tali fan..her romance is my favorite one out of ME2 until LotSB came out..I liked the reuniting with Liara (and she was/is my favorite from ME1) and what went down...if you catch the paragon interrupts anyway...But yah I love Tali, she's great..but we should still NEVER see her or any other Quarian.

[Tachai03]

You make good points, but wouldn't there be an even *bigger* nerdrage amongst fans if they never showed her face at -all-? Even people who aren't talimancers want to see her face [such as myself], but I don't want it to be some re-make of an asari-esque species. Personally, I feel the Tali fanboys need to accept the fact that Tali could potentially be quite alien, and not humanoid.



Just my 2 cents.

[Cutlass Jack]

From the details you can see through the helmet, her features are relatively humanoid and vaguely attractive. And its mentioned in one of the novels how the Quarians are very close to humans featurewise. So it really wouldn't be 'giving in'



But we've had this conversation a thousand times on this forums. I could go either way on the issue. All I care about most is having her as a squadmate in ME3. Reveal or no.

[volus4life]

i want tali to take off her mask in ME3.... only to reveal another mask beneath it.

[xlavaina]

Its a PARADOX guys. BW will have to decide, and either way there will be hell to pay. BW really set themselves up for one ridiculous fan-rage.

[StarGateGod]

i want to see her face, i expected to her her face since she was my love interest but i got screwed over, and didnt get anything BW owes us a face

[darthbuert]

At first I was pretty upset when, during my Tali romance she removed her helmet only to be teased with the back of her cloaked head. But the more I think about it the more I feel that maybe some things should be left a mystery. Things just aren't as cool when some of the mystery is removed. Take Darth Vader for instance. Before the prequels came out he was the ultimate BMF. Since episode one I have a hard time seeing him as anything other than a whiny tantrum ridden-emo kid. Same goes for Wolverine, once I knew his origins he just didn't seem as cool anymore. I fear the same will happen if Tali's face were ever revealed. My imagination of her appearance is good enough for me.

[Radwar]

It's incredibly dumb that you can't see what a Quarian looks like under their suite. You would think there would be pictures of them on the internet (don't remember what's it's called in the Mass Effect universe) of how they looked before they had to wear suits.

[GodWood]

I'd find it ridiculous if Bioware kept the quarians appearance a secret just because they're afraid of pissing off some fans.



Everyone else in the galaxy knows what they look like.

Shepard knows what they look like.

So we should too.

[Omnicrat]

Radwar wrote...

It's incredibly dumb that you can't see what a Quarian looks like under their suite. You would think there would be pictures of them on the interextranet (don't remember what's it's called in the Mass Effect universe) of how they looked before they had to wear suits.

Fixxed!

[Razorsedge820]

 I want Tali to take off her mask in ME3.......so I can sneeze on her .

[kidbd15]

I want her to take off the helmet... I consider it a loose end that needs to be resolved

[ShadyKat]

Tali should just look like a more alien version of her voice actress, problem solved.

[Sergeant Conley]

My thought has always been: give players the chance to see Tali's face in ME3.

Say Bob really really wants to know what Tali looks like. But Joe doesn't, he prefers the mystery and his own imagination.

All BioWare has to do is think of a way to make such a reveal optional, such as through an optional conversation. That way Bob can see Tali's face, and Joe can keep the mystery.

Everyone wins.

It might be a bit of a challenge for BioWare, but if they came up with the ME universe in the first place, coming up with this scenario oughta be a cakewalk in comparison.

[SandTrout]

I was thinking that the Quarians would be similar to the Tau for WH40k, Humanoid, but alien enough to not really be attractive to normal sensibilities. Granted, there will always be some deviant group who will find them attractive no matter how ugly they are (IE: Garrusmancers), but they should be at least acknowledged as deviant. Xenophilia should not be an accepted lifestyle.

[KennerBoy]

Are there people out there, like me, who find Tali annoying? I'm not trying to start a rage war here, but seriously. Am I the only one who never cared for her?

[thatguy212]

KennerBoy wrote...

Are there people out there, like me, who find Tali annoying? I'm not trying to start a rage war here, but seriously. Am I the only one who never cared for her?

I never really cared for her, i just never saw the appeal to her

[KennerBoy]

thatguy212 wrote...
I never really cared for her, i just never saw the appeal to her

Huzzah. I'm not alone. What IS the major appeal to her? Is there a simple answer? I mean, I don't want anyone writing a paper about it. Just some kind of brief explanation as to why she seems to be such a fan favorite?

[xXSnak3Eat3rXx]

thatguy212 wrote...

KennerBoy wrote...

Are there people out there, like me, who find Tali annoying? I'm not trying to start a rage war here, but seriously. Am I the only one who never cared for her?

I never really cared for her, i just never saw the appeal to her

Same here or at least until her loyality mission in ME2 which is one of my favourite missions out of the whole series.

[StarGateGod]

KennerBoy wrote...

Are there people out there, like me, who find Tali annoying? I'm not trying to start a rage war here, but seriously. Am I the only one who never cared for her?

DEVAINT GET THE DEVAINT, how dare you speak such a way about tali, how could anyone find her innocence annoying, or the i got a shotgun attitude

[jbblue05]

KennerBoy wrote...

Are there people out there, like me, who find Tali annoying? I'm not trying to start a rage war here, but seriously. Am I the only one who never cared for her?

I find her annoying.  She was my least favorite character in ME1 and I was pissed off I got Tali back instead of Ash (my favorite character)
I wouldn't recruit Tali but I need that AR upgrade

[Sergeant Conley]

KennerBoy wrote...

thatguy212 wrote...
I never really cared for her, i just never saw the appeal to her

Huzzah. I'm not alone. What IS the major appeal to her? Is there a simple answer? I mean, I don't want anyone writing a paper about it. Just some kind of brief explanation as to why she seems to be such a fan favorite?

Some might just find her Deadpan Snarker personality endearing. Others might just find her nervous mannerisms cute.

I'm a bit of the former, and I can also relate to the "giving up so many simple things everyone else takes for granted" aspect due to a medical condition I have. I don't experience it anyone near the same scale as a quarian, but enough that I can relate.

And it makes me cringe to say it, makes me almost gag because normally I hate this kinda message, but the idea that such problems can be looked past for the sake of The Most Important Things gives disabled ole' me hope.

[Marta Rio]

Sergeant Conley wrote...
All BioWare has to do is think of a way to make such a reveal optional, such as through an optional conversation. That way Bob can see Tali's face, and Joe can keep the mystery.
.

Eh, I don't think Joe would ever not look.  I don't think that Tali's face should be revealed but I sure as heck am going to take a gander at it if the opportunity is available.

Although...taking this a step further, why not also make Tali's appearance an in game choice?*  Like, somehow the following dialogue option comes up: Shep:  "I tend to be more attracted to human-looking faces." vs. "I guess I'm a bit xenophilic, I don't mind alien-looking faces." (I dunno, maybe he's chatting with someone about his luv interest...)
And then when Tali cracks her helmet, her appearance depends on your earlier statement...

(*I'm only kind of kidding about this.  While it's a completely ridiculous idea, it would help quell the enormous amounts of nerd rage that are going to erupt, no matter what Bioware does.)

[didymos1120]

Sergeant Conley wrote...
Say Bob really really wants to know what Tali looks like. But Joe doesn't, he prefers the mystery and his own imagination.

All BioWare has to do is think of a way to make such a reveal optional, such as through an optional conversation. That way Bob can see Tali's face, and Joe can keep the mystery.

Everyone wins.

Until Bob posts a bajillion screenshots on the interwebs and Joe inevitably runs into them without ever intending to.

[Sergeant Conley]

Marta Rio wrote...

Sergeant Conley wrote...
All BioWare has to do is think of a way to make such a reveal optional, such as through an optional conversation. That way Bob can see Tali's face, and Joe can keep the mystery.
.

Eh, I don't think Joe would ever not look.  I don't think that Tali's face should be revealed but I sure as heck am going to take a gander at it if the opportunity is available.

Although...taking this a step further, why not also make Tali's appearance an in game choice?*  Like, somehow the following dialogue option comes up: Shep:  "I tend to be more attracted to human-looking faces." vs. "I guess I'm a bit xenophilic, I don't mind alien-looking faces." (I dunno, maybe he's chatting with someone about his luv interest...)
And then when Tali cracks her helmet, her appearance depends on your earlier statement...

(*I'm only kind of kidding about this.  While it's a completely ridiculous idea, it would help quell the enormous amounts of nerd rage that are going to erupt, no matter what Bioware does.)

If Joe really doesn't want to see what Tali looks like, but looks anyway just because he can, then Joe's got nobody to blame but himself. Sorry that it sounds so dickish, but it's the best way I can put it.

As for the "I'm more attracted to..." comment idea, I don't think that quite works with the idea of the Tali romance. In it, Shepard falls for her with no knowledge of her appearance aside from the known fact that quarians look a lot like humans with really different ears, and whatever hints of her face he can see through her visor (nose, cheeks, etc.) His attraction to her is entirely based on personality and their experiences together.

With all that, I don't think he'd care what she'd look like, and since he smiled in the romance scene when she took off the visor, whatever she looks like pleased him. It's really sappy, and some cynics might say unrealistic, but that's how it is.

There's also the fact that the "human-looking" and "alien-looking" comments would lead to two different "canon" versions of what a quarian resembles, one contradicting the already established fact that they resemble humans...with really different ears.

Though in a wonderful twist of dark comedy, she might just resemble someone whose body has been ravaged by AIDS...