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Was me2 really needed?


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#51
shnizzler93

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yes



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Iakus

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Haristo wrote...

ME2 prepare for ourselves for ME3. so let's wait this one before judging ME2's Story this much. it was a good game and has an interresting plot, but the Collector's thing would have been more interresting than the recruit fest. I agree.


Personally, I'd rather not drop another $50-$60 to judge if the $50-$60 I already spent was worth it.  If ME 2 is a lead-in to ME 3, then it should also have been a continuation of ME 1.  I hardly see that at all.  ME 2 strikes me as more of a tangent than a bridge.

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SSV Enterprise wrote...

Stupid stupid stupid stupid. That's what I think about this kind of complaint.

Skip ME2 and we would have no idea:

Why Shepard is working for Cerberus
Why Cerberus is possibly in control of a certain base.
Why a certain synthetic race is not hostile to you and may even be helping you.
Why a certain warlord has united a certain race.
Why you have this totally BA team

etc. etc. etc.


You forgot the most important things, like learning about what the Reapers are and why they harvest organics. Or did you just get bored with the thread?

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AlanC9 wrote...

You forgot the most important things, like learning about what the Reapers are and why they harvest organics. Or did you just get bored with the thread?

Maybe he just didn't want to think of the space terminator flying through the milky way to punch Earth in the face.

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didymos1120 wrote...

You don't get to make demands of the intarwebs!

Wait...are you making demands?


No demands, just a hyperbole on how shocked I was that there are people who didn't like ME 2.

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yesikareyes wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

You don't get to make demands of the intarwebs!

Wait...are you making demands?


No demands, just a hyperbole on how shocked I was that there are people who didn't like ME 2.


Well make some, so I can continue making turian Councilor references. :P

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yesikareyes

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didymos1120 wrote...

Well make some, so I can continue making turian Councilor references. :P


As much as it is entertaining to fuel a heated debate by making demands, I don't want any trouble from others just like in one thread I posted before. Oh well :( 

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As others in this thread have said, ME2 will only become pointless if the team you spend over half the game recruiting is dropped for ME3.

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At this point, I think it's safe to say that ME2 isn't needed storywise, and that you could skip it and move on to ME3 with no issues (this is excluding LOTSB). HOWEVER, we don't know just yet. ME3 might still prove us wrong.

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At this moment it's hard to say. But now I think the events in LotSB were more important than most of ME2's.

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Mister Mida wrote...

At this moment it's hard to say. But now I think the events in LotSB were more important than most of ME2's.

That goes without saying, really. The two hours you spend in LOTSB literally do more to the overarching plot than the ~30 hours you spend in the main story of ME2.

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IrishSpectre257 wrote...

This question can't be answered yet.

If the entire ME2 squad, or at least most of it, returns for ME3, then ME2 won't be useless. ME2 focused on giving Shepard a powerful new squad, and allowing the player to get to know them. It also provided a few revelations about the main plot. It makes way for ME3 to come along and focus entirely on the main plot.

This. Now please stop these pointless identical threads.

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I wouldnt say LOTSB was more important than most of ME2, was it a pretty big step? Yeah. But so was finding out more about the Geth/Quarian Struggle, and saving thousands upon thousands of colonists and stopping the collectors was pretty big....



I only wish we got some kind of pat on the back for the whole Zaeed/Blue Suns thing..... =)


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Phaedon

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And learning that the Reapers aren't just machines.

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Mister Mida

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Phaedon wrote...

And learning that the Reapers aren't just machines.

The cyborg thing? So far just a possibility IMO.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 23 janvier 2011 - 10:53 .


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Well, a human-reaper hybrid (I refuse to call it a human-shaped Reaper, it's just silly) finishing the job of Sovereign could have been bad.

I assumed this was the Reaper's plan B to bring the fleet in.

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Been seeing and following a lot of Threads on this subject...

From my own point of view, I agree with the widely held "Literary" idea that the 2nd part of Trilogies usually are the weakest (with many exceptions of course) due to the fact they are often bridges between the Build in the 1st part and the conclusion presented in the 3rd...

I liked ME2, thought it was an awsome Game but agree the Story was a bit weaker than ME1...don't feel as strongly as many posters do about it...but still I agree with the basic idea.

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Mister Mida

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Khayness wrote...

Well, a human-reaper hybrid (I refuse to call it a human-shaped Reaper, it's just silly) finishing the job of Sovereign could have been bad.
I assumed this was the Reaper's plan B to bring the fleet in.

Exactly. The human Reaper may as well have been a final desperate attempt to get into the galaxy the old-fashioned way.
Assuming that all Reapers are made the same way is a premature thing from my POV.

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This is precisely why I have begun referring to ME2 as an expansion game. It certainly is not a sequel or not a good one anyway. It is a great game by its lonesome though. Regardless, if the squad is sidelined in ME3, then yes ME2 would be rendered completely worthless as a continuation. If BioWare is unwilling to include our squad in anything but cameos. I have little faith our decisions will have any actual ramifications based on the "people could miss larges amount of content" argument.

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Well we got to visit and learn a lot more about the galaxy and the people who live in it. Not much important things compared to ME1 but anyway, it sets the stage for ME3 where it will hopefully be back to the reapers with the team you have requited and the alliances you have built in the first two games.



All in all it's still a great game of course.

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Who needs playing prequel games when we have motionless motion commics? Image IPB

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didymos1120 wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...
Instead, ME 2 was an almost complete reset of the story, probably due to the fact that PS 3 gamers would have to start the series at this point.


Yeah a "complete reset"....except for all the stuff that wasn't changed and all the decisions that carried through and the fact that it's a direct sequel.  So what's the other evidence for this PS3 conspiracy theory...other than the mere existence of the PS3 version?

Ignore bjdbwea, he has a copy of ME1 shoved too far up his arse to make any rational discussion.

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Yes for all the reasons previously stated in this thread and others like it. Since this keeps getting brought up I assume the OP dosen't like that answer, and is unwilling to be swayed. That's fine, but why the same point is brought up again and again is beyond me.

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oh snap looks like we're heading into Paranoiasville... again.

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xnoxiousx wrote...

To be honest story wise me2 was more about characters and did not advance story.

You could skip me2 to me3 and know every thing that is going on that how little me2 does for me series story.

It felt like that game you did not need to play.


I would disagree your most basic assertion : that ME2 is unnecessary because it was more about the characters.

Quite the contrary, what makes ME2 such a fitting intermission to the Reaper Invasion are the characters ( as well as Shepard's foray's into Cerberus,Krogan,Quarian and Geth politics among other things ).

The team that you build in ME2 ( and survives ME2 ) is the team which will fight at your side in ME3.

This is the beauty , not the blemish, of ME2 and what will make ME3 such a ride. ME2 gives the people at your side a face,a soul,a past.

Imagine, say, chatting with Garrus at a possible happy-end of ME3, reminiscing together all the hardships endured during the trilogy. Garrus referencing your exploits that you made during your experience in the Mass Effect universe together.

That Mass Effect 2 focuses on the characters is not a minus. It is very much a plus that will likely shine in ME3.

P.S. : And yes, if Bioware takes away your squadmates in ME3, they will,indeed, have made an entire game (ME2) for naught.

Modifié par RaduM, 23 janvier 2011 - 01:31 .