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[Homey C-Dawg]

Rivercurse wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I didn't like the Hammerhead. I'd rather have the Mako back with improved controls.

Edit: The Mako was a lot more enjoyable for those who noticed that every planet has a path to the goal so you don't have to go over ridiculous cliffs. I think a lot of people never figured this out.

Hi Homey C-Dawg, let me introduce you to my friend Nodacrux

Nodacrux has a path too. A pretty easy one in fact.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 25 janvier 2011 - 01:34 .

[Bourne Endeavor]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

@Bourne Endeavor wrote...

My bad, I believed that I had used the word turret. And how the hell did I contradict myself? Did I say "This video contains ramming?"  No. So f*ck you, don't put words in my mouth. Also,  at no point did I EVER say the HH WASN'T made of paper. You've destroyed nothing.  

Clearly you're not up to date on what trolling is. The OP b!tched about how fighting from a distance is boring. I said get your ass up close then. Does that involve you somehow? No. I didn't think so. 

You claimed "Ramming targets works much better and is faster than the missiles"

To which I quoted you and stated you would die doing that since you sustain damage for ramming. You quoted me calling that "Bullsh!t", therefore insinuating my post was incorrect. You subsequently post, "Ramming a group of enemies can get you killed pretty quick but done right and it's handy."

So in conclusion you have said I was both correct and incorrect. That is an impossibility and thus a contradiction. As for the video. You provided it as a means to defend your argument when it only served to bury it. Therefore, you contradicted and defeated yourself. Presuming you meant to post it as a generalization and not in relation to our argument. It remains the same due to the fact that video hurt your early statement that, "Ramming targets works much better and is faster than the missiles"

My apologies, could you rather I cite you for flaming? Trolling is intentionally provoking someone. Flaming is posting vulgar remarks or insulting them. You have accomplished both.

As for putting words in your mouth. I never stated you claimed the Featherhead was not made of paper. I merely explained why it was mocking referred to as Featherhead.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 25 janvier 2011 - 01:45 .

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

Modifié par Mabari Owns High Dragon, 25 janvier 2011 - 03:16 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

Me too.

Actually one of my favorite things about planet exploration in the Mako is that you didn't have to take the easy path. You were still free to mountain-goat your way there if you wanted to.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 25 janvier 2011 - 07:25 .

[Sajuro]

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

I loved that, the first time I was driving around in the Mako.
Shepard: I wonder how steep this can go -50 degrees- not that bad, ooh bigger mountain -60 degrees- the pirates can wait, something might be at the the top -85 degrees- Hm, what would happen if we boosted off? -boosts off the side of the mountain- 
Tali: -holding on for dear life- Ah Keelah! protect me Maker! 

Now with the Hammerhead
Tali: I'm sure someone else could go with you, maybe Jacob.
Shepard: Tali, come on. It will be like old times in the Mako.
Tali: -starts having Thane like flashbacks- Falling, constantly. Always going back up, each time I think its the end, but it never is.
Garrus: I think she has PTSD
Shepard: Ah, bring her aboard, it'll be fun.

[Rivercurse]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I didn't like the Hammerhead. I'd rather have the Mako back with improved controls.

Edit: The Mako was a lot more enjoyable for those who noticed that every planet has a path to the goal so you don't have to go over ridiculous cliffs. I think a lot of people never figured this out.

Hi Homey C-Dawg, let me introduce you to my friend Nodacrux

Nodacrux has a path too. A pretty easy one in fact.

You must be talking about to plot missions.  There are debris and resources on planets throughout the game without legtimate paths.  The asari trinket mission is the best example I can think of.  Try getting that one on your path.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Sidac wrote...
people...IT IS FREE! You get what you pay for and you paid NOTHING.

sometimes the internet entertains...

[Aurica]

Sajuro wrote...

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

I loved that, the first time I was driving around in the Mako.
Shepard: I wonder how steep this can go -50 degrees- not that bad, ooh bigger mountain -60 degrees- the pirates can wait, something might be at the the top -85 degrees- Hm, what would happen if we boosted off? -boosts off the side of the mountain- 
Tali: -holding on for dear life- Ah Keelah! protect me Maker! 

Now with the Hammerhead
Tali: I'm sure someone else could go with you, maybe Jacob.
Shepard: Tali, come on. It will be like old times in the Mako.
Tali: -starts having Thane like flashbacks- Falling, constantly. Always going back up, each time I think its the end, but it never is.
Garrus: I think she has PTSD
Shepard: Ah, bring her aboard, it'll be fun.

They really should add VO to the squad members when they are aboard the Mako.

[didymos1120]

Aurica wrote...

They really should add VO to the squad members when they are aboard the Mako.

They did.  It wasn't alot, but they would comment about various things.  On Ilos, for instance.  Especially if you brought Liara.  Also, when you're doing the "Lost Module" assignment, take Garrus and run over a pyjak.

As for the Hammerhead, there's a tiny bit during Firewalker (and a bit more that was cut).

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 janvier 2011 - 12:56 .

[Sajuro]

didymos1120 wrote...

Aurica wrote...

They really should add VO to the squad members when they are aboard the Mako.

They did.  It wasn't alot, but they would comment about various things.  On Ilos, for instance.  Especially if you brought Liara.  Also, when you're doing the "Lost Module" assignment, take Garrus and run over a pyjak.

As for the Hammerhead, there's a tiny bit during Firewalker (and a bit more that was cut).

I know the VI says something about how missiles beat primitive animals when you shoot the shifty looking cows in Overlord.

[didymos1120]

Sajuro wrote...

I know the VI says something about how missiles beat primitive animals when you shoot the shifty looking cows in Overlord.

You'll get other lines if you keep shooting the space cows. 

[james1976]

Si-Shen wrote...

I prefered the Hammerhead myself, the mako felt rather slugish and boring in the end. I really got tired of all the planets and got to the point where I did not want to land half-way accross the map from my target (even if there was a designed path). The hammerhead on the other hand required you to think a bit more in combat and was rather speedy.

Overall the Mako was not very good or enjoyable so I would really hate to go back to its boring missions.

It's an IFV, not a sports car.  It's not suppose to be stylish and agile.  It filled the IFV role far better than the Hammerhead did.
And whoever called it a "hover-tank" needs to look up what a tank has.....Hammerhead couldn't take a hit for nothing.

Rivercurse wrote...

You
must be talking about to plot missions.  There are debris and resources
on planets throughout the game without legtimate paths.  The asari
trinket mission is the best example I can think of.  Try getting that
one on your path.

I believe that was done on purpose to make you work for it.  Not who lazy people, ME1 really wasn't for lazy people....unlike ME2 which seems to cater to them.

Modifié par james1976, 25 janvier 2011 - 03:03 .

[james1976]

Sajuro wrote...

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

I loved that, the first time I was driving around in the Mako.
Shepard: I wonder how steep this can go -50 degrees- not that bad, ooh bigger mountain -60 degrees- the pirates can wait, something might be at the the top -85 degrees- Hm, what would happen if we boosted off? -boosts off the side of the mountain- 
Tali: -holding on for dear life- Ah Keelah! protect me Maker! 

Now with the Hammerhead
Tali: I'm sure someone else could go with you, maybe Jacob.
Shepard: Tali, come on. It will be like old times in the Mako.
Tali: -starts having Thane like flashbacks- Falling, constantly. Always going back up, each time I think its the end, but it never is.
Garrus: I think she has PTSD
Shepard: Ah, bring her aboard, it'll be fun.

ROFL

[JaegerBane]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I didn't like the Hammerhead. I'd rather have the Mako back with improved controls.

Edit: The Mako was a lot more enjoyable for those who noticed that every planet has a path to the goal so you don't have to go over ridiculous cliffs. I think a lot of people never figured this out.

IIRC there were several that didn't - at least not paths to everything of interest on the planet. Nodacrux (with near straight drops in the southern cliffs) and Eletania (the whole Prothean treasure hunt) were worlds that came to mind. Yes, by and large there was always a path to the main objective, but completists often had to take to the hills to find everything.

That said, I personally felt the complaints about cliffs etc were a little overblown. It's not like every single planet you landed on had you trying to scale 80 degree inclines.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 25 janvier 2011 - 04:26 .

[JaegerBane]

james1976 wrote...

It's an IFV, not a sports car.  It's not suppose to be stylish and agile.  It filled the IFV role far better than the Hammerhead did.
And whoever called it a "hover-tank" needs to look up what a tank has.....Hammerhead couldn't take a hit for nothing.

It's an IFV from the 22nd century. There isn't any reason to assume that it'll function just like it's 200-year old ancestor beyond transporting infantry with a bit of fire support.

Personally I thought the idea of a combat vehicle that blurred the line between ground vehicle and aircraft fitted the idea of Mass Effect's technological progression.

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

james1976 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

Bourne, I would just let it go, we don't want a reason to invite him back here. But I'm with Homey, they do have paths, you just gotta look. I actually enjoyed cliff climbing, however... I'm weird like that!

I loved that, the first time I was driving around in the Mako.
Shepard: I wonder how steep this can go -50 degrees- not that bad, ooh bigger mountain -60 degrees- the pirates can wait, something might be at the the top -85 degrees- Hm, what would happen if we boosted off? -boosts off the side of the mountain- 
Tali: -holding on for dear life- Ah Keelah! protect me Maker! 

Now with the Hammerhead
Tali: I'm sure someone else could go with you, maybe Jacob.
Shepard: Tali, come on. It will be like old times in the Mako.
Tali: -starts having Thane like flashbacks- Falling, constantly. Always going back up, each time I think its the end, but it never is.
Garrus: I think she has PTSD
Shepard: Ah, bring her aboard, it'll be fun.

ROFL

Lol, that was great!

Modifié par Mabari Owns High Dragon, 25 janvier 2011 - 06:15 .

[james1976]

JaegerBane wrote...

james1976 wrote...

It's an IFV, not a sports car.  It's not suppose to be stylish and agile.  It filled the IFV role far better than the Hammerhead did.
And whoever called it a "hover-tank" needs to look up what a tank has.....Hammerhead couldn't take a hit for nothing.

It's an IFV from the 22nd century. There isn't any reason to assume that it'll function just like it's 200-year old ancestor beyond transporting infantry with a bit of fire support.

Personally I thought the idea of a combat vehicle that blurred the line between ground vehicle and aircraft fitted the idea of Mass Effect's technological progression.

In other words they didn't think anyone would fire at it?  Because that is what I see when playing.  Any defenses it has are purely for evasion.  It cannot take any punishment like the Alliance's Mako.
Maybe if they installed an onboard cloaking system or some shielding it'd have a better chance.

Modifié par james1976, 25 janvier 2011 - 06:20 .

[wizardryforever]

james1976 wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

james1976 wrote...

It's an IFV, not a sports car.  It's not suppose to be stylish and agile.  It filled the IFV role far better than the Hammerhead did.
And whoever called it a "hover-tank" needs to look up what a tank has.....Hammerhead couldn't take a hit for nothing.

It's an IFV from the 22nd century. There isn't any reason to assume that it'll function just like it's 200-year old ancestor beyond transporting infantry with a bit of fire support.

Personally I thought the idea of a combat vehicle that blurred the line between ground vehicle and aircraft fitted the idea of Mass Effect's technological progression.

In other words they didn't think anyone would fire at it?  Because that is what I see when playing.  Any defenses it has are purely for evasion.  It cannot take any punishment like the Alliance's Mako.
Maybe if they installed an onboard cloaking system or some shielding it'd have a better chance.

No, they probably figured that the pilot wouldn't be so brain dead as to let enemies hit him when he can easily avoid incoming fire.

[james1976]

Perhaps but fighting in the Mako is far more interesting that fighting in the Hammerhead. You point out the incoming fire can be avoided, that is why I pointed out "purely for evasion". Chances are you are going to be hit from time to time. That thing bumps into surfaces a lot too.

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

It is pretty much impossible to avoid Geth laser fire... Unless your out of range, of course, but thats kinda boring.

[JaegerBane]

james1976 wrote...
In other words they didn't think anyone would fire at it?  Because that is what I see when playing.  Any defenses it has are purely for evasion.  It cannot take any punishment like the Alliance's Mako.
Maybe if they installed an onboard cloaking system or some shielding it'd have a better chance.

I think it mentions in the codex that it'd been designed to handle moderate amounts of damage which it deals with via it's repair system.

I'm not defending it's fragility - I've mentioned many times that I think it's overly fragile (in fact I think it actually takes less damage than a fully upgraded Shepard). All I'm saying is that the simple fact it is an IFV doesn't imply that it's supposed to handle a load of damage. I mean, even modern day IFVs aren't really intended to deal with any more than small arms fire....

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

JaegerBane wrote...

james1976 wrote...
In other words they didn't think anyone would fire at it?  Because that is what I see when playing.  Any defenses it has are purely for evasion.  It cannot take any punishment like the Alliance's Mako.
Maybe if they installed an onboard cloaking system or some shielding it'd have a better chance.

I think it mentions in the codex that it'd been designed to handle moderate amounts of damage which it deals with via it's repair system.

I'm not defending it's fragility - I've mentioned many times that I think it's overly fragile (in fact I think it actually takes less damage than a fully upgraded Shepard). All I'm saying is that the simple fact it is an IFV doesn't imply that it's supposed to handle a load of damage. I mean, even modern day IFVs aren't really intended to deal with any more than small arms fire....

I couldn't even strafe past a like three Geth without the alarm going off, thats kinda overboard..

[Sajuro]

Could it be the Alliance's answer to a Geth Armature?

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

Sajuro wrote...

Could it be the Alliance's answer to a Geth Armature?

They need a few more armor layers to contend... Did I say a few? I meant a few hundred.

[wizardryforever]

Mabari Owns High Dragon wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

james1976 wrote...
In other words they didn't think anyone would fire at it?  Because that is what I see when playing.  Any defenses it has are purely for evasion.  It cannot take any punishment like the Alliance's Mako.
Maybe if they installed an onboard cloaking system or some shielding it'd have a better chance.

I think it mentions in the codex that it'd been designed to handle moderate amounts of damage which it deals with via it's repair system.

I'm not defending it's fragility - I've mentioned many times that I think it's overly fragile (in fact I think it actually takes less damage than a fully upgraded Shepard). All I'm saying is that the simple fact it is an IFV doesn't imply that it's supposed to handle a load of damage. I mean, even modern day IFVs aren't really intended to deal with any more than small arms fire....

I couldn't even strafe past a like three Geth without the alarm going off, thats kinda overboard..

Okay, either you're exaggerating, or you really are that bad a driver.  I just did this on Insanity yesterday, and only had the problems that accompany every Insanity run.  I did not have a problem killing off Geth troopers at all.  Keep moving, strafing, jumping and shooting, and everything dies pretty quickly.  There was a youtube vid that someone linked to earlier, watch and learn.