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#101
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mousestalker wrote...

Before y'all go insane over word choice versus accent usage, do please remember that the game is being written by Canadians. Canadians occupy their own special world as regards word usage and vocabulary.


You know it, eh?  If it were up to this hoser I'd have given you ceinture fléchée, snowshoes, toque and a lumberjack as the standard start attire.  :devil:   I'd chat longer but I have to catch my polar bear behind my igloo to ride to work to slaughter some caribou to eat like you all eat cow.  Now, what is that all a-boot?   :bandit:

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que?

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shantisands had me at hoser. XD

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shantisands wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

Before y'all go insane over word choice versus accent usage, do please remember that the game is being written by Canadians. Canadians occupy their own special world as regards word usage and vocabulary.


You know it, eh?  If it were up to this hoser I'd have given you ceinture fléchée, snowshoes, toque and a lumberjack as the standard start attire.  :devil:   I'd chat longer but I have to catch my polar bear behind my igloo to ride to work to slaughter some caribou to eat like you all eat cow.  Now, what is that all a-boot?   :bandit:


You forgot the poutine and Timbits, eh? :D

Poutine is one of those things that sounds massively disgusting, is absolutely wonderful and will kill you if you add it to your diet.

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mousestalker wrote...
You forgot the poutine and Timbits, eh? :D

Poutine is one of those things that sounds massively disgusting, is absolutely wonderful and will kill you if you add it to your diet.


lol Poutine would be the mana regen and timbits for health :P

You're right,  I totally forgot.  Yes, Tim Horton's is a bit of common monument to our local snack trolling habits, isn't it?  lol  I admit it, I get the coffee :)    Poutine *is* delicious.  Bad for you, oh so bad, but oh so good.   

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TomHark wrote...

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We've been exposed (willingly or not) to British media, shows, reality shows (lol) since the dawn of television here in Australia.  I have also lived and worked in England - talk about exposure. The Welsh were the worst - couldn't understand a single word especially when I would have to take a message over the phone - listening to them spell out their surname, good times.

Although I respect what you're staying, I still argue, that there are Brits in existence who (by some force of nature) possess a naturally clear, easy to understand, non-regional British accent and whom I have heard talk (no obvious neturalisation) and who are are oh so proper and lovely to listen to, to boot! And they're not even actors!


Welsh people can be hard to understand, but they can't hold a candle to Glaswegians in my experience!

People who move around a lot while growing up tend to develop softer and more neutral accents, so it is certainly possible, but that would be more on an individual basis.  My point was more based on the fact that there is no region in this country that would contain people who naturally sound like most actors do in American media representations of our accents. 

Another reason for the disconnect I have is that the word useage often doesn't match the accent.  We are supposed to believe that the character is British, but they are using American words (like "ass" instead of "arse".)  If Hawke calls his mother "Mom" I'm going to go spare!


I can't really say anything about other shows/games/movies, but since Fereldan is only based on the UK, Bioware can pretty much make up any accent they want. No one says it has to be English in any form.

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otherarrow wrote...

I can't really say anything about other shows/games/movies, but since Fereldan is only based on the UK, Bioware can pretty much make up any accent they want. No one says it has to be English in any form.


A fair point, although I feel that if they are going to make an effort to pretend Fereldans are English then they shouldn't do a half-hearted job.  None of my comments were really intended to be a dig at BioWare though; I was just pointing out that asking if FemHawke sounds English doesn't really mean much.

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She had better be British.


English, specifically.

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You think Isabela is ditzy?


Given the number of names Addia has called Isabela, I assume the pirate stole her boyfriend in high school.



I am hoping she will have a welsh accent or a thick Scottish brogue.. :D

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mousestalker wrote...
Poutine is one of those things that sounds massively disgusting, is absolutely wonderful and will kill you if you add it to your diet.

If I had to guess what that meant, it would not be a foodstuff.  Image IPB

On VAs, a "correct" accent is not the most important thing to me, rather that you have a professional who can carry a lot of emotion in just a few words with only animation to back up the performance.  For this, Jon Curry is outstanding.  I can understand, though, if you have certain associations that are distracting.

Modifié par Addai67, 24 janvier 2011 - 04:30 .


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yukidama wrote...

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If she calls femHawke "Kitten," there had better be a renegade interrupt.  :devil:


She doesn't call femHawke "kitten".


:(:unsure::crying:


My reaction, as well. *kicks dirt* :unsure:

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I think Laidlaw said in some other thread that if he had his way we would hear some info about fem Hawkes voice acting by the end of January.

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I still hold out for Miranda Hart to voice femHawke.

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I would go with Addai on the voice and accent thing. Being able to convey a feeling or emotion would be the thing that I would consider most important. But then English is a second language so I'm not very good with accents =)

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I'm hoping for another video or something tomorrow <3 That'll be a week before Feb 1st :)

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@ReallyRue

Whoever the VA is it has to be someone who small roles in DA and Mass Effect.

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CuzImShort wrote...

yukidama wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
If she calls femHawke "Kitten," there had better be a renegade interrupt.  :devil:


She doesn't call femHawke "kitten".


:(:unsure::crying:


My reaction, as well. *kicks dirt* :unsure:

Hey, I said I was for it, as long as I get to kick the dirt at her.

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David Gaider wrote...

Puissance.

Het dwingen van een nieuwsgierige persoon om een vertaalprogramma te gebruiken is niet erg beleefd. ;)

TomHark wrote...

Just because the voice actor is English, it doesn't mean the accent won't be a fake one. Practically all the ones in DAO were, for example. I wouldn't expect an American to notice the difference though, as quite a few seem to think there is only one English accent anyway.

Odd. The opposite has been my impression of the average English person, actually. I can't count the number of times I've read the phrase "I hate the American accent" on forums, whereas I haven't yet met a single American who doesn't know there is more than one English accent, thanks to Buffy if nothing else. And the majority seem to find a good number of those accents to be pleasant at the very least, but often enough to also be more or less--enticing, let's say. The guy who wanted to go to America because he thought his accent would get him laid in "Love Actually"? Yeah, that's basically true in my experience. Switch the genders around and I suspect it would be the same.

We do, however, very often make the mistake that "English" is synonymous with "British." Most of us seem to think of Scotland and Wales as just being Scotland and Wales. 

TomHark wrote...

Most of the major ones were fake, by
which I mean that nobody born in England would have those accents
naturally.  It's probably only noticible when you are British, but most
foreign media representations of our accents don't sound realistic even
when they are spoken by British people.

Fable 3 is a rare example of actual British accents being used in a computer game.

That could possibly have something to do with the fact that Peter Molyneux is English and Lionhead Studios is located in the UK. Location=easier access to untainted accents, much of the time.

As to the accents in Dragon Age: Origins, Tim Curry and Simon Templeman aside of course, I noticed that a lot of the British accents were fake, particularly the player soundsets where it was painfully obvious. Claudia Black and Steve Valentine, however, I actually thought did an admirable job of faking it. Still, in most cases I prefer authentic accents to fake ones, so I can't tell you how relieved I was to hear that Hawke's English accents would be the real stuff. 

TomHark wrote...



People
who move around a lot while growing up tend to develop softer and more
neutral accents, so it is certainly possible, but that would be more on
an individual basis.  My point was more based on the fact that there is
no region in this country that would contain people who naturally sound
like most actors do in American media representations of our accents. 



Another
reason for the disconnect I have is that the word useage often doesn't
match the accent.  We are supposed to believe that the character is
British, but they are using American words (like "ass" instead of
"arse".)  If Hawke calls his mother "Mom" I'm going to go spare!

...this is not exactly altering my impression that English people (and perhaps even European people in general) tend to forget Canada exists. I'm aware that you're not necessarily referring to Bioware, but you are on their forums and you spoke not long ago about DAO's accents, after all. That gives a certain impression. You do realize that, to Canada's credit and America's envy, Bioware is a Canadian developer, no?

As much as our two countries tease each other, I do think Canada deserves acknowledgment. I can understand somebody forgetting Luxemburg, as it's sandwiched between larger countries, but Canada isn't exactly small.

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Tons of Americans on XBL think I'm
from England when I speak, cause apparently my English is "perfectly
British". Of course, whenever I'm on voice chat with someone from the
UK, they don't feel quite the same way... ;)

Heh, I know quite a few Belgians who have a similar experience. Brits tend to think them American, while Americans tend to assume they're English. If you're taught an accent when you learn the language, it tends to stay with you unless you interact with native speakers of a different accent. There's an in-between period, I think, where both sides think you belong to the other. With enough time and practice, however, you become almost indistinguishable as a foreigner.

Quite a few Belgians think I'm from the Netherlands if they don't talk with me very long (and the reverse would likely be true) for that very reason. Even more so because I'm a fairly quiet person with strangers.

It's sort of hysterical to me that the stereotype of Americans is that if you don't understand us, we speak very slowly and loudly. What's the first thing that I ask a Belgian to do if I don't understand them? "Excuseer, maar kunt u een beetje luider en langzamer praten?" ("Sorry, but could you speak a little louder and slower?") ;)

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yukidama wrote...

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Count me in. I was already imagining my red-haired Hawkette hearing "kitten" a lot from Isabela. I hope she has a nice alternate nickname for a female. It's hard to top "kitten" for cuteness, though, particularly if you're playing a warrior.

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Wynne wrote...

Count me in. I was already imagining my red-haired Hawkette hearing "kitten" a lot from Isabela. I hope she has a nice alternate nickname for a female. It's hard to top "kitten" for cuteness, though, particularly if you're playing a warrior.


i'm now guessing that it is merril that isabela is calling a kitten.
makes sense... i think, elves are more or less a bit smaller than humans and a bit more cat like i think.

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Wynne wrote...
Claudia Black and Steve Valentine, however, I actually thought did an admirable job of faking it. Still, in most cases I prefer authentic accents to fake ones, so I can't tell you how relieved I was to hear that Hawke's English accents would be the real stuff. 


Isn't Steve Valentine scottish?:huh:

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darksnow wrote...

Wynne wrote...
Claudia Black and Steve Valentine, however, I actually thought did an admirable job of faking it. Still, in most cases I prefer authentic accents to fake ones, so I can't tell you how relieved I was to hear that Hawke's English accents would be the real stuff. 


Isn't Steve Valentine scottish?:huh:

If so, he does a good English accent. I wouldn't  have guessed.

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Minxie18 wrote...

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Whoever the VA is it has to be someone who small roles in DA and Mass Effect.

Heh, I know. I just like Miranda Hart's voice. She would make a hilarious femHawke.Image IPB

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Wynne wrote...
As to the accents in Dragon Age: Origins, Tim Curry and Simon Templeman aside of course, I noticed that a lot of the British accents were fake, particularly the player soundsets where it was painfully obvious.


Sorry, but that's simply untrue. Considering the expense we went to in order to record in the UK, it's also kind of sad. Perhaps we needn't have bothered.

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darksnow wrote...

Wynne wrote...
Claudia Black and Steve Valentine, however, I actually thought did an admirable job of faking it. Still, in most cases I prefer authentic accents to fake ones, so I can't tell you how relieved I was to hear that Hawke's English accents would be the real stuff. 


Isn't Steve Valentine scottish?:huh:

He is, and isn't Claudia Black Australian?  (edit: two more examples of how it doesn't matter if it's "real," good VA's just have incredible talent)

Modifié par Addai67, 24 janvier 2011 - 07:11 .


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Addai67 wrote...
Isn't Steve Valentine scottish?:huh:

He is, and isn't Claudia Black Australian?


Claudia Black is Australian, and Steve Valentine's accent is authentic. The voices you hear from them are their natural speaking voices. That doesn't really seem to deter some folks from deciding that they (or anyone else) aren't authentic, somehow.

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David Gaider wrote...

Wynne wrote...
As to the accents in Dragon Age: Origins, Tim Curry and Simon Templeman aside of course, I noticed that a lot of the British accents were fake, particularly the player soundsets where it was painfully obvious.


Sorry, but that's simply untrue. Considering the expense we went to in order to record in the UK, it's also kind of sad. Perhaps we needn't have bothered.

I do wonder about that.  You specifically wanted RP British accents, which isn't the natural accent for a great many English people, let alone Scots or Welshmen.  A voice-actor from the midlands may well have a terrific RP accent he can use, but could it sound fake to someone who knows the RP accent really well?