Silmane wrote...
Which is absolutely hilarious because the Collector Base is obviously situated beyond the event horizon of the black hole. Several thousand meters would not make a lick of difference.
Agreed. The black hole wasn't a danger. By the time you'd find out it was, it'd be too late.
The black hole was merely a shield against the galactic core.
-Any time the Collector Base came back from the Omega Relay, it would've crushed all of that debris upon entry, seeing as how it's near the size of a Reaper. How is all this debris still here?
It was orbiting. The game doesn't give you a specific timeline of events between "my ship was boarded" and "let's go." Assuming you go immediately through the relay, it could've been a few hours between the team's departure and return to Joker and EDI.
The skid-mark of debris that the Collector ship left (assuming the Collector ship wasn't better optimized and appeared in the debris field) would be somewhere else in the orbit, or far, far past the Collector Base due to kinetic energy.
-Identify Friend or Foe was useful how? Do all the Reapers have different IFF coordinates?
Derelict Reaper = 37 million years old
Prothean/Collectors = 50 thousand years old
If the Reapers built the relays, does this mean the Omega Relay was built after the Prothean extinction? If this is true, then why would a Reaper, 37 million years old, have the coordinates to this base?
The IFF put you inside a safe zone of several thousand KM^3. That's fairly accurate on astronomical terms. It may not have been "safe from all harm," though.
It seems likely that the Omega Relay was built post-Prothean extinction (though, not necessarily true). Remember, they gleaned the coordinates of the Collector Base from the Collector Vessel, and only acquired the Reaper IFF so that the Relay didn't throw them into a star or gravity well.
Safe to assume the IFF all leads to the same exit point. If this poses true, the Normandy landed in a debris field of thousands of ships that didn't have a IFF and that renders it ineffective as a plot device. These destroyed ships did not land in that black hole and were blown apart upon exiting the relay, by the Collectors.
They could've either gotten lucky with the relay, or had the technology to imitate the IFF. The Collectors didn't seem
particularly advanced, so it's possible that other species (Joker - "... some seem ancient....") had the capability to navigate the relay well. There's also the possibility that the debris
are old Prothean ships trying to reclaim lost brethren.
Another possibility is that the Omega-4 Relay was built prior to the Prothean extinction and could've been a previous hide-out for some of the Reapers (because who wants to explore the Galactic Core?), and the debris are simply millions of ships from thousands of species over countless eons. When the Protheans were recruited, the Omega-4 Relay was simply repurposed.
-Nobody could possibly know what would happen after going through the Omega 4 Relay, because so far, it's the only relay(haven't read the books)that doesn't have a corresponding relay on the other side. It was all assumptions. EDIT: Not only that, how are the Collectors moving so quickly back and forth without a Relay near their base? Mass Effect's Codex clearly states that Mass Relay-FTL is pretty much the only way to travel the Galaxy. Standard FTL isn't enough. Makes sense.
I'm not sure I understand this point. The Relay is active, and it's known that the Collectors travel via the Omega-4 Relay. Since the Relay system utilizes a two-structure system, it only follows that there's another relay on the other side that connects to the Omega-4 Relay. Just because the cinematic doesn't show it doesn't mean it's not there.
-The IFF was a silly, poorly thought out plot device that was there for you to obtain Legion. In the games files, Legion has dialogue as far early as the Archangel mission, which leads me to believe they didn't know where to put him and came up with the IFF part of the game.
I doubt this, actually. Since all of the characters have dialogue choices that work early-on, it just means that they were keeping who you meet when fluid in case of changes. In an earlier version of the game, you actually teamed up with Tali much earlier on. Does that mean Tali's recruiting mission in the current build is solely there for her? Nope.
I think they did need a place to put Legion, but it seems like he was slightly shoe-horned into the mission, rather than the cause of it. There's nothing that Legion did which couldn't have been done by Shepard and his team, other than get punched in the face and pass out.
Edit: To further my point on why I feel the Omega 4 Relay is bull. If the Collector Base is built on Reaper tech, it's obvious to assume that the Reapers could've built a base and hibernated there until the next extinction, leaving Soverign to guard post until it was time to start the next cycle. Why in the ever loving hell are they beyond the Milky Way to begin with? Maybe this will be explained. Who knows.
It's a LOT safer on the rim. The Collectors are expendable. If they get sucked into a black hole, no big woop. Plus, I'm actually thinking that the Omega-4 Relay was a previous hideout for some Reapers, and their enemies simply found their hidey-hole (which might be the origin story of said black hole). If that's the case, why risk it? Just sit out on the edge of the galaxy where you might not encounter much
dust, let alone curious sapients or old acquaintences. With the Mass Effect relays, distance is inconsequential.
Without the Omega 4 Relay and the Collector Base, I wouldn't have to ask the question on why they are in dark space. I love the first game and wouldn't dare render it's plot useless. The question is still there, though.
I don't mind them hiding beyond the rim. Very, very low chance of detection. Very low chance of a catastrophic event happening. All-around much, much safer if you plan to hibernate for 50,000 years at a time.
Plus, imagine if a sapient species found you hiding at the core.... All they'd have to do is destroy the Relay, and you're stuck in your safe zone. Well, nertz, can't FTL out of a ring of black holes. You
can FTL from beyond the rim back in, though. It will just take a while.
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stabilize high speed matter entering the field (obviously you don't want orbiting ship debris colliding with the station). So the broken pieces of starships past would orbit around and eventually enter the station's field and slow down to a halt.
