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[Spartas Husky]

rrp wrote...

there is a content filter in Gears of War 2. i know it is not just a click of a button to make a content filter i know it would take resources. and i am not demanding no women i am not demanding anything i am saying to make seeing the dancers optional that is all.

I was keen on believing you had reasonable doubts and in the same ammount reasonable attitude to suggest content filter... but right there I now believ ein the rest your a troll nothing more. Its been explained multiple times, and even I went more in depth.

There is a big different between filtering THEMES and filtering ITEMS/OBJECTS. There are things that cna be turn on or off, others recquire a redisgn or more resources put into satisfying those who are prejudice or do not wish to understand the game (your wife in this case).

Taken blood or profanity is a very different thing from taking out an actualy theme or scenery.

IN a last example... your asking to remove the act of chainsawing from the gears of war game because your wife finds it too violent... instead you dont have it. That changes the whole aspect of the lancer weapon and to balance the game the designers would have to work more resources into appeasing your wife's shortsighted views on gaming.

Thought you had your reasons....but its obvious your just a troll. So... screw it... dont ike to say it, but dont buy any games, and hopefully your wife will prevent you from doing so.

[yuncas]

The ESRB's rating is more than enough of a content filter for me. But really? You'e that concerned about blue aliens in bathing suits?

[rrp]

the reason i brought up gears of war is because a post said gears does not have a filter, which it does. i know the difference between themes items and objects. i am not even saying, anymore, to filter the dancers, just move them, out of the main path of the game, even put them in optional missions. just don't force me to see them. in order for me to complete ME2 i have to see the dancers. this is not the case in the first Mass Effect. don't even have a content filter just make it optional like in the first MASS EFFECT that is it. i am a newb i guess and i have no idea what being a "troll" even is. so if it is meant to be an insult you may need to use something else or explain what it is. I feel like i am asking for a reasonable thing here. and everyone is acting like i am asking to cut off a limb it is bizarre.

[yuncas]

Spartas Husky wrote...

N0touchi wrote...

Kangasniemi wrote...

I guess this is the American way of dealing things: the wife gets furious when she sees her husband playing a game that show some dancers (not strippers, only dancers). Conclusion, rather than talking with your spouse about the quite serious problem you have in your relationship, you come and demand that the virtual images need to be censored so your wife won't see them? Dude, get some counseling ASAP or prepare for a divorce.

If that is your generalization of Americans, then you need to get out more.

dude you got to admit we are that way. Instead of adressing the problema t its source we try to find the shortcut answer and either blame someone else, or ask for someone to change w/e is bothering us to suit our own views.

I'm American born and bred, and I don't do that. Generalizations are cheap.

[rrp]

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

[yuncas]

What's the point? Are you a Grandparent? Why not complain about the violence? Why not all the bad bad no no language? How about the gore? You've said your piece. The blue alien almost boob offends your wife's sensitive sensibilities. Don't play the game if you don't want to see it. I know that may sound a little sparse on the reasoning side but I don't care.



And a troll is someone who intentionally provokes an argument.

[rrp]

i have brought up content filtering which will take care of the gore, violence, and language. But it has sparked an outrage of people who feel i am trying to censor art? so i have now cut it down to making it optional. and i am not intentionally provoking this argument i am just trying to get my point accross. it would not change the game to make it optional for anyone who wanted to see it they still could, but for those of us who don't want to see it we do not have to. and we all can still get the fullfillment and joy out of Mass Effect.

[ZLurps]

rrp wrote...

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

Here is a pinup from 1940's. There are also pinup ppics where girls don't wear any underwear.

Modifié par ZLurps, 27 janvier 2011 - 07:58 .

[Uszi]

rrp wrote...
 So... screw it... dont ike to say it, but dont buy any games, and hopefully your wife will prevent you from doing so.

On that note,

I bring you this Public Serivce Anouncement.

That is all.

[ianmcdonald]

We should add a content filter onto real life because my girlfriend gets upset when I glance at another pretty girl walking by.

[Spartas Husky]

yuncas wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

N0touchi wrote...

Kangasniemi wrote...

I guess this is the American way of dealing things: the wife gets furious when she sees her husband playing a game that show some dancers (not strippers, only dancers). Conclusion, rather than talking with your spouse about the quite serious problem you have in your relationship, you come and demand that the virtual images need to be censored so your wife won't see them? Dude, get some counseling ASAP or prepare for a divorce.

If that is your generalization of Americans, then you need to get out more.

dude you got to admit we are that way. Instead of adressing the problema t its source we try to find the shortcut answer and either blame someone else, or ask for someone to change w/e is bothering us to suit our own views.

I'm American born and bred, and I don't do that. Generalizations are cheap.

True, that generalizing is not accurate... and I apologize for following suit... lets just say a vast number prolly no more than 49% of the population always finds someone or something to blame instead of adressing the problem at its source.

There technically I am not generalizing. So no, not the "mayority" but a very close number does.

ianmcdonald wrote...

We should add a content filter onto real life because my girlfriend gets upset when I glance at another pretty girl walking by.












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lol nice that one was funny.

Reminds me of the family guy episode where the channel blocks everything lol. Every time someone is going to cuzz they blow a horn. On top of which they strap a belt to peter and everytime he farts a bad joke is uttered instead lol:lol:

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 27 janvier 2011 - 08:29 .

[Spartas Husky]

rrp wrote...

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

Really?... comapred to what I see on the beach... or in TV the asari stripper is quite conservative lol

On another note... IF my grandparents saw it... true... point is we are not our grandparents... we are grandsons... living ina  very different time.

[ZLurps]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Really?... comapred to what I see on the beach... or in TV the asari stripper is quite conservative lol

On another note... IF my grandparents saw it... true... point is we are not our grandparents... we are grandsons... living ina  very different time.

Actually that may not be true.
Henry Millers Tropic of Cancer was published in 1934, Anais Nin's wrote most of the short stories later published in Delta of Venus during 1940s. 

Then striptease, from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striptease
"The origins of striptease as a performance art are disputed and various dates and occasions have been given from ancient Babylonia to twentieth century America. The term 'striptease' was first recorded in 1938, though 'stripping', in the sense of women removing clothing to sexually excite men, seems to go back at least 400 years. For example, in Thomas Otway's comedy The Soldier's Fortune (1681) a character says: "Be sure they be lewd, drunken, stripping ****s".[7] Its combination with music seems to be as old. A conclusive description and visualization can be found in the 1720 German translation of the French La Guerre D'Espagne (Cologne: Pierre Marteau, 1707), where a galant party of high aristocrats and opera singers has resorted to a small château where they entertain themselves with hunting, play and music in a three day turn"


Porn movies: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porn_movies
"Pornographic movies were widespread in the silent movie era of the 1920s, and were often show in brothels. Soon illegal, stag films, or blue films as they were called, were produced underground by amateurs for many years starting in 1940s."


Sure things weren't as hard core as today but I'm pretty sure that our grand parents in general didn't crapped their pants if they encountered sexually stimulating content, actually there was market for it like there is today.

People can google pinup cards, photos, adverts, literature etc form various decades, even check paintings from the sides of WW2 era fighter planes or bombers...
There were groups back in the day that fought all that immorality like there is today, but to say that people in the early 1900 were much different in their desires to us and that didn't show up anywhere is plain revisionism.

Modifié par ZLurps, 27 janvier 2011 - 09:32 .

[rokeeb]

rrp wrote...

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

I don't know where you're from or what beaches you go to, but compared to the beaches down here in Melbourne, the strippers are nothing. Have you ever heard of a bikini?

[Spartas Husky]

rokeeb wrote...

rrp wrote...

Have you ever heard of a bikini?

....there I need say nothing more...

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 28 janvier 2011 - 01:12 .

[Kusy]

rrp wrote...

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

rrp... in Mass Effect 2 you are not visiting a beach or a public pool. You are visiting a night club with go go dancers... hence the go go dancers being there. It's also worth mentioning that this club is owned and runed by a ruthless crime lord, most likely has drugs avalible for purchase, and generaly speaking is placed in the middle of a words dump the galaxy has ever seen. What I'm pointing at - what is shocking in this? How come a few strippers in this game more disturbing than dead bodies laying all around, batarians laying on the floor in their own dump and a space monkey butchery avalible for view in the public? It fits the whole location, you are not suddenly attacked with bare ****** while you take a space walk in a space park.

[Phategod1]

rrp wrote...

okay i know everyone is trying to downplay the dancers so my point looks minuscule, but seriously a "bathing suit" it is a one peice thong with the alien almost showing nipple. if anyone of you saw this same outfit at the beach or at a public pool you wouldn't be shocked? i am not sure what point you are all trying prove one comment it is a "bathing suit" in another it is to show an "Immoral" atmosphere? "go go dancers" if your grandparents saw these dancers they would fill there diaper.

Never Been to Brazil have you? I just wanted to correct you on thing The Dancers in Chora's Den in ME1 can not be removed. They are not there when you go after Fist because the club has been cleared, but after that they return. as far as the bathing suits go if you think those are the most risque form bathing attire you and your spouse have issues with the human body that are you and her's alone. This whole thread reminds me of a certain Fox"news" interview. 

[kill_switch_423]

His point about ME1 is that you can get through the game without ever having to go through Chora's Den while the dancers are present.



How, exactly, would you make Afterlife optional without destroying or otherwise altering established characters and plot?



Also, dude, if your wife really gets super upset over a virtual thing in a virtual world, that isn't even offensive when compared to standard television, then there may be a deeper issue there and it is not Bioware's responsibility to cater to those too sensitive to appreciate mature content.



Seriously, go watch some prime time television for a couple of hours. Does she get upset when you watch that? Or is it only because said content is in video game form?

[Ramirez Wolfen]

[InvincibleHero]

How about don't buy any M rated games. Your wife seems to find most content in them objectionable.



if you stick to T or E games you'll be safe. Why not play those other games at a friend's house if you can.



It's nice when programmers do stick in options like turning on blood and the like. I always turned on the gore setting for Baldur's Gate, but you could turn it on/off. Not every game is going to allow the choice so read the labels and play games accordingly. You can tell when a game is going to be very violent and or show sexuality.

[Whereto]

Omg this thread is now so trolly. I suggest rrp you get over it, you knew what you were buying when you bought the game. If you or your wife do not like the content, that does not mean they have to move the dancers from the main route, add a content filter or do anything you have asked for. Now if you have a serious problem with this game, which you can not resolve with your wife, Sell the game or never play it again and in the future you should not ever buy games with a m rating or what ever rating system your country uses. The game warns you of this even before you buy it, there is no need to make consetions for someone that cnt handle it, as if you buy the game you should be able to. It's not for children

[LOST GAM3R]

Bump.

[Pacifien]

Locked because 1) people thought it was a troll thread (for which I got zero reports), 2) it crosses into a sociopolitical territory that is generally not allowed on this gaming forum per the Site Rules, and 3) someone tried to bump the thread to continue the discussion after it had apparently run its course.