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[kglaser]

Don't want to drag this off-topic, but that little volus girl is killing me with her adorableness.

[moilami]

Should I read this thread? I am a female.




HAHAHAHAHAHA, not.


Edit: (For those who did not get it, there is no female players. So no point to read this thread.)

Modifié par moilami, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:02 .

[kglaser]

moilami wrote...

Edit: (For those who did not get it, there is no female players. So no point to read this thread.)

kglaser:  What?  *pats self* Oh, damn...
*disappears in puff of smoke*

[ReiSilver]

Spartas Husky wrote...

^^^^^^^ and that picture is suppose to represent your thoughts on hot guys? or... just a random picture?

T.O.P is quite attractive to me as well as a lot of other Asian music personalities, but I think I'm more drawn to a male body type of long legs, slender bodies and uh... nice hair? Which is just easier to find in the asian pop scene then anywhere else. Plus in the performance scene you can find things like this



which, if we're talking about physical allure, well I've watched it about 100 times and it never gets old
But yeah, mass effect human male body types are more suited to those who enjoy the beefy/macho kinda bodies and faces. Thane is quite slender comparatively but his eyes freaked me out at first and his legs are quite short so Garrus didn't have much competition in my first playthrough

[lovgreno]

Spartas Husky wrote...

SKRemaks wrote...


He's there for you, through thick and thin.

that applies to both male and females who fallen for the turian. Whether is romantically froma  female, or brotherly from a male. He sure is an awesome character.

Garrus is maybe the most popular bromance in the game.

Yes he complains a bit about some things but only if Shepard presses the issue and he is also already doing something about it himself. Kind of like most people on board that are accused of being "whiny" by their anti-fans (Basicaly everyone but especialy Kaidan for some strange reason). So it's basicaly about how you want to see him: as whiny or as a guy with some troubles that you can help him with as a friend. I prefer the later definition.

[moilami]

kglaser wrote...

moilami wrote...

Edit: (For those who did not get it, there is no female players. So no point to read this thread.)

kglaser:  What?  *pats self* Oh, damn...
*disappears in puff of smoke*

*takes a sharp look around before disappearing in puff of smoke too*
*pooof, gone*

Modifié par moilami, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:17 .

[Wurf]

 I think it's because turians are inhuman-looking enough to be incompatible with the standards that we normally judge mens' looks by, but also because there's something majestic about their appearance and culture in general that demands respect. I personally don't find them sexually attractive, but cool and badass? Definitely.

That said, I agree that characters like Garrus, Saren, and Nihlus are mainly well-loved for their personalities. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who finds, say, Warden Kuril attractive.

Modifié par Wurf, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:24 .

[sarahN7]

The voice is a big part. Brandon Keener has an excellent voice. And Garrus's personality always felt authentic and, IMO, he was your friend first, and stuck with you. I felt like I had to work to convince most of the team to join, but he was right there when he found out you wanted his help. For me, and I obviously can't speak for anyone else, it had absolutely nothing to do with appearance.

[kglaser]

Warden Kuril is an old barefaced villain.

I DO find turians attractive, and...no. XP

[Nova-FoV]

Obviously, the main point has been established that the voices are the most attractive feature of the turians.

However, while turians will have as varied a personality as any human, there are certain intrinsic characteristics that make them as a species attractive. Their code of honor and their militaristic society, for example. Totally sexy.

Also, the issue has been raised that their physique reflects none of the attractive traits of human males. I disagree. Their arms and legs lack muscular definition, but beyond that, they have a lot of attractive human characteristics. 1: they're tall, 2: they have strong, straight posture, 3: their chest is broad in comparison to their hips and waist. Compare the turian figure to say, the salarian figure (which is slouched with a protruding belly, skinny, lanky, and out of proportion with its head) and the former will be far more attractive by human standards than the latter.

Modifié par Nova-FoV, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:36 .

[kglaser]

Turian shoulders = Do Want.

[Spartas Husky]

ReiSilver wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

^^^^^^^ and that picture is suppose to represent your thoughts on hot guys? or... just a random picture?

T.O.P
is quite attractive to me as well as a lot of other Asian music
personalities, but I think I'm more drawn to a male body type of long
legs, slender bodies and uh... nice hair? Which is just easier to find
in the asian pop scene then anywhere else. Plus in the performance scene
you can find things like this



which, if we're talking about physical allure, well I've watched it about 100 times and it never gets old [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]
But
yeah, mass effect human male body types are more suited to those who
enjoy the beefy/macho kinda bodies and faces. Thane is quite slender
comparatively but his eyes freaked me out at first and his legs are
quite short so Garrus didn't have much competition in my first
playthrough

Well given the setting of the game. Where
humans have genetically improved themselves. Slender is really a
hindrance rather than a useful trait. Slender while attractive to some
or not is basically less excersised body. higher heart rate, higher
toxins found within the body, and overall weaker strength. Now aside the
macho feel of the game. In theory slender is just as bad as being a bit
overweight.  Both do not provide useful factors to the body and most
likely injure it in the long run.

Now aside from the biology crap. Like I 've said before to each his own.

lovgreno wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

SKRemaks wrote...


He's there for you, through thick and thin.

that applies to both male and females who fallen for the turian. Whether is romantically froma  female, or brotherly from a male. He sure is an awesome character.

Garrus is maybe the most popular bromance in the game.

Yes he complains a bit about some things but only if Shepard presses the issue and he is also already doing something about it himself. Kind of like most people on board that are accused of being "whiny" by their anti-fans (Basicaly everyone but especialy Kaidan for some strange reason). So it's basicaly about how you want to see him: as whiny or as a guy with some troubles that you can help him with as a friend. I prefer the later definition.

garrus is my bro man... Garrus is the FIRST male character I have been so attached to that isn't the main character. He trully feels like a brother... not really sure if older or younger.. but it dont matter he feels like a damn good brother.

[ReiSilver]

Spartas Husky wrote...


Well given the setting of the game. Where
humans have genetically improved themselves. Slender is really a
hindrance rather than a useful trait.

....
...............
Are you freaking serious?
We're having a light hearted discussion on shallow attractiveness and you want to try and argue that beef muscly guys are genetically superior to slender guys?
Excuse me while I throw my hands up in the air and stare at your post in contempt and disbelief.

[moilami]

The wording in the header was wrong.

Should had been "How much money you would have to be paid so you would bed a Turian?"

Garrick! Don't let your head fall down. *high five* They are just humans.



*pooof*

[yoshibb]

I wasn't attracted to either Garrus or Thane, personality or looks wise, but I know plenty of ladies that are. There's only so far you can move away from the human model for me. Asari and Quarians are fine, but Turians and Krogan go too far. I loved Wrex's personality but I still probably wouldn't romance him. But that's just my personal preference.



One question I have though, was Garrus's romance satisfying? I saw the video of it on youtube and while kind of cute, the head touch at the end was just... wah? Just wondering if you guys were disappointed and were hoping for more.

[Spartas Husky]

ReiSilver wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...


Well given the setting of the game. Where
humans have genetically improved themselves. Slender is really a
hindrance rather than a useful trait.

....
...............
Are you freaking serious?
We're having a light hearted discussion on shallow attractiveness and you want to try and argue that beef muscly guys are genetically superior to slender guys?
Excuse me while I throw my hands up in the air and stare at your post in contempt and disbelief.

 I apologize I should not have stated that an excersised body is healthier than a body without excercise.

[jeweledleah]

ReiSilver wrote...

I have yet to see a human male in Mass Effect that I consider ~hot~, I don't think Jacob and Kaidan are ugly but neither do they make me want to stare at them for ages and I'm not into beefy guys, shirtless Jacob may as well keep his shirt on.
Garrus at least look really interesting even though he's not remotely human(dem hips, dose eyes) but until the designers learn how to create hot, slender guys the humans will have to rely on their personalities to appeal to me.

hehe, I'm a complete oposite.  i only find Bishonen guys atractive if they have some muscle on them (for isntance Jansen Ackles, who according to TV tropes is western example of Bishonen) and slender androgenous looking men are very unatractive to me, sowwy.  I think its also possibly cultural thing, I grew up on a male ideal being a tough viking like men, but having discovered anime later in life, I saw something completely oposite was true in other cultures.  for example, Cowboy Beebop - Spike is supposed to be the hot guy, but honestly, Jet is much closer to my taste

to each their own indeed

edited to add.

there's a good reasoning as to why solders in ME are muscled.  they kinda need to be, as they tend to do a lot of physicaly demanding things.  the only way skinny hot guy would make sence as a solder if we get one that would be pure adept. 

Modifié par jeweledleah, 26 janvier 2011 - 02:11 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Spartas Husky wrote...

 I apologize I should not have stated that an excersised body is healthier than a body without excercise.

You act as if the only body types out there are Nicole Richie, the Incredible Hulk, and the Michelin Man.

[Spartas Husky]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

 I apologize I should not have stated that an excersised body is healthier than a body without excercise.

You act as if the only body types out there are Nicole Richie, the Incredible Hulk, and the Michelin Man.

I "act"? I act simply because I stated being slender is not as good as having an excersiced body?. Did I mention the size of your muscles should be as "such and such"? or are you just making random accusations based on your own self image?. I barely do 40 push ups, do plenty of sit ups, and run 2 miles a day. From that I am no where near close to being like anyone in the movies but my body stays in shape.


I guess that should have been my innitial statement... being out of shape is not better than being in shape. ANd being "in shape" can range from simple running to weight lifting. beauty aside, a simple fact of doing excersice increases your health state is not new. So relax, I am not staing the difference in intelligence or race... simply stating a difference in health.

[ReiSilver]

jeweledleah wrote...

ReiSilver wrote...

I have yet to see a human male in Mass Effect that I consider ~hot~, I don't think Jacob and Kaidan are ugly but neither do they make me want to stare at them for ages and I'm not into beefy guys, shirtless Jacob may as well keep his shirt on.
Garrus at least look really interesting even though he's not remotely human(dem hips, dose eyes) but until the designers learn how to create hot, slender guys the humans will have to rely on their personalities to appeal to me.

hehe, I'm a complete oposite.  i only find Bishonen guys atractive if they have some muscle on them (for isntance Jansen Ackles, who according to TV tropes is western example of Bishonen) and slender androgenous looking men are very unatractive to me, sowwy.  I think its also possibly cultural thing, I grew up on a male ideal being a tough viking like men, but having discovered anime later in life, I saw something completely oposite was true in other cultures.  for example, Cowboy Beebop - Spike is supposed to be the hot guy, but honestly, Jet is much closer to my taste

to each their own indeed

edited to add.

there's a good reasoning as to why solders in ME are muscled.  they kinda need to be, as they tend to do a lot of physicaly demanding things.  the only way skinny hot guy would make sence as a solder if we get one that would be pure adept. 

I was bought up on the same kind of thing but it never stuck. Maybe because Bishounen tend to be posed in typically sexy/alluring poses while the Conan type was posed to show off power and muscles.
to each their own X3

But one the whole "the guys NEED to be muscled" then why do all the women still prescribe of the current standard of beauty by having little to no muscle? As well as little to no body fat when having body fat is healthy for human women. Like you pointed out we have biotics like Jack. She's a biotic powerhouse but she's all skin and bone. If it's true for her why not other hypothetical male characters? Spartus seems to think the only way to be healthy is to work out like a body builder but that is blatantly false, not only are most of the pop stars I posted in great condition (and go through rigorous dieting and work outs to stay that way, not to mention being in South Korea a lot of them have been through military service.) but Spartus Husky seems to be forgetting that people's bodies are different as well as people finding different things attractive. What is a fit body for one person is not the same across the board. Which is why I found his comments completely bafflingly stupid. He's talking about "well realistically all human men would be muscled beef cakes in the future" Meanwhile we've got Asari; a monogendered alien race that just happens to look like hot human women who can have sex with anyone.
Sorry but when the universe has an entire race to cater to straight male fanservice, beyond all chances of an alien race ever looking remotely human, if I get a bit irritated at someone telling me that something I consider fanservice shouldn't exist in this hypothetical universe because he lives in a fantasy world where if you're not built like Arnie then you're not healthy.

[Aetheria]

I think stepping outside the universe of the game helps to answer this question. Even though in the game's universe asari, turians, salarians, and so on are different species, the characters themselves are basically weird-looking humans with extreme personality quirks. This is a very "Star Trek" way of portraying aliens, and I think is part of the space opera feel that the game is supposed to have.



So, if you realize that all your companions are functionally human characters, the question becomes "why do female players find weird-looking characters attractive?" And I think it's a pretty well-established stereotype that women care more about personality and acts, and less about conforming to a certain sort of appearance, than men do. So there you go.



Personally, though, I wasn't a fan of the Garrus romance. I preferred the friendship/student-mentor relationship he and Shepard had in ME1; having Shepard suddenly suggest "hey, our lives suck, what about a one-night stand before we both die" was kind of... ugh.

[ReiSilver]

While I'm at it here's a link to some photos of Olympic Athletes. I'm sure all those that don't look like the default Mass Effect male model are drastically unfit

ninamatsumoto.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/athletic-body-diversity-reference-for-artists/

[AdmiralCheez]

Spartas Husky wrote...

I "act"? I act simply because I stated being slender is not as good as having an excersiced body?. Did I mention the size of your muscles should be as "such and such"? or are you just making random accusations based on your own self image?. I barely do 40 push ups, do plenty of sit ups, and run 2 miles a day. From that I am no where near close to being like anyone in the movies but my body stays in shape.

Ooh, you have a workout routine.  Obviously, you are superior to little ol' overweight me.  The POINT here is that you ran in all "you can't like slender dudes because they are unhealthy," when 1. health and beauty only sometimes go hand-in-hand and 2. for all you know, that guy could be in great shape, but only has a slender frame/you can't tell through his shirt.  There are uncountable "shapes" for a body to be in, and there is no clear division between in shape and out of it.  Even "healthy" is subjective!

Speaking of self-images, YOU were the one who put your exercise habits on the internet, not me.  Makes you seem kind of insecure, which you probably aren't, but nonetheless...

I guess that should have been my innitial statement... being out of shape is not better than being in shape. ANd being "in shape" can range from simple running to weight lifting. beauty aside, a simple fact of doing excersice increases your health state is not new. So relax, I am not staing the difference in intelligence or race... simply stating a difference in health.

Well, durr, of course not getting enough exercise is bad for you!  My problem was that you jumped on someone who liked slender guys.  That's like me going crazy over some guy because he likes women with pear-shaped bodies as opposed to hourglass.

Either way, ranting about the superiority of one body type over another makes you seem like a jerk.  I'm sorry if I misread.

[jeweledleah]

ReiSilver wrote...

While I'm at it here's a link to some photos of Olympic Athletes. I'm sure all those that don't look like the default Mass Effect male model are drastically unfit

ninamatsumoto.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/athletic-body-diversity-reference-for-artists/

while yes, I agree that there are different levels of fitness (have you seen freestyle climbers and runners, those guys are incredibly wiry and slim, and you only realize just how muscular they are when you see them in action), when it comes to solders, slim is not enough.  you don't have to look like Arni, in fact bodybuilders are going for a bit of a different goal then say your average solder - they carry too much bulk to be effective, you need just  enough muscle mass to be able to carry heavy equipment and use it for long periods of time.

at any given time in ME, you're carrying several guns, a whole bunch of heat sinks, various breathing, gear, the armor itself I doubt is light weight, etc. my personal reference as to what soder should look like is not for example a or a runner swimmer.  its a solder.  Even Gymnasts and triatlon athletes are not quite there.

Most mass effect men are idealized version of that body, with a lot less fat layer and more deffinition.  as for women and carrying fat, umm..not when it comes to solders.  I wish Fem Shep carried a bit more muscle, but at least she's not as ...breasty as Miranda (typicaly, when you get your body fat low, you lose most of your..bulk there as well, just part and parsel)

Jack is a special case.  special becasue of the the way she grew up.  she was obviously malnourished most of her life.  couple that with mostly relying on biotics in a fight and of course she never grew any particular muscle.  but it doesn't mean that all women or even all biotics should look that way.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that within ME universe current models work.  within the parameters of the characters we've seen so far ( fighters anyways, civilians coul use a bit more diversity in shapes, but then again, its much more cost effective to just re-use the same body model for cameo npc's and focus on refining gameplay instead) - their body shapes work.  lucky for me, its what I personaly find to be more atractive

slender pretty men, I'm sorry to say, make me feel like I'm robbing the cradle or something :/