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Babli wrote...
Dont get me wrong, I like Thane, but some miracle cure would be cheap.


Don't get me wrong, I want to save the Galaxy in ME3, but some miracle weapon against the Reapers would be cheap.

/sarcasm

Bad writing can ruin almost everything. Good writing may save even bad ideas. I hope the writing would be good... When it comes to both curing Thane and defeating the Reapers.

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I don't get why people are saying "If you don't want him cured lets just make it optional so you don't have to do it". Misses the point completely.


Because then everybody wins! If you want it, you get it, you don't want it, you don't have to do it. Simple, really.

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Babli wrote...

I agree.
Dont get me wrong, I like Thane, but some miracle cure would be fanservice.


I'm just passing through. :?

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How idiotic: Omg, curing Thane is a cliche! That is all there is too him! Curing him would be cheesy and destroy his character!



How do you even come to that conclusion? Thane =/= his illness. Thane facing death, or coming to terms with death has brought about introspections, realizations and a deeper sense of self. His romance with FemShep, and facing death in a different source (going through the Omega-4 Relay, and all the uncertainty that comes with that) cemented and deepened these realizations. A cure can only cause gratitude, and a new chance at life: A new chance to find love, and a second chance with his son. Only good can come out of a cure for Thane, from a story perspective. Thane's character would not allow him to take that for granted.



If Thane is cured, every FemShep player who romances him, has a chance to have a happy ending with their LI, just like every other Shepard. It's not fair that this is not the case. We whose FemShep's romance Thane deserve our Happy ending/Shepard Romance at the end of ME3, or whatever, just as much as anyone else.

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I would like a cure, but only if it was well-implemented and non cliche, seeing as the fact he was dying was part of his character.



I'd rather he wasn't cured fully, but the diseases effects were lessened so he'd live longer or something.

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Wizz wrote...

Babli wrote...

I agree.
Dont get me wrong, I like Thane, but some miracle cure would be fanservice.


I'm just passing through. :?


So what?

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Shadow_Soul wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
I don't get why people are saying "If you don't want him cured lets just make it optional so you don't have to do it". Misses the point completely.


Because then everybody wins! If you want it, you get it, you don't want it, you don't have to do it. Simple, really.


But i don't want to kill Thane.

There is a massive difference between not being able to cure a terminal illness and deliberately withholding a cure from a dying man. It would be as bad as beating him to death with a framed picture of Kolyat.

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Shadow_Soul wrote...

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How many options did femShep really have? Jacob didnt do it for many of us because of bad dialouge. And Garrus as sweet as he is, may be just to alien for many. Thane was made to attract femals, so I think they left an opening in their writing to save him dependig on how popular he got


More then those 3, when you add Liara, Kaidan and Kelly. Plus the semi-romance of Samara, the death-romance with Morinth and for those people who can mod, any maleShep romances as well. (just sayin')


Well for most female gamers romancing another female isnt really the thing we are after. Kaidan was the only male LI in ME1. If you didnt like him you got nothing

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I was just thinking about this..it'd make for an awesome twist if Thane dies of the disease and his son, Kolyat offers to take his place in "finishing what his father started" (ie. helping Shepard in the fight against the Reapers). That way, you still end up with a Drell in your crew. And if your femshep romanced Thane, it would open up some interesting dialogue between the two.

But yeah, the game clearly stated that Thane doesn't have that long to live and there is no cure. It's not so much that "Thane = illness" but finding a cure just to please the fans would be a total cop out.

Modifié par xXSnak3Eat3rXx, 26 janvier 2011 - 04:20 .


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AntiChri5 wrote...

Shadow_Soul wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
I don't get why people are saying "If you don't want him cured lets just make it optional so you don't have to do it". Misses the point completely.


Because then everybody wins! If you want it, you get it, you don't want it, you don't have to do it. Simple, really.


But i don't want to kill Thane.

There is a massive difference between not being able to cure a terminal illness and deliberately withholding a cure from a dying man. It would be as bad as beating him to death with a framed picture of Kolyat.


I see your point. I figure a DLC for ME3, nothing expensive or anything. But, that way if you don't want the cure, you don't buy the DLC, thus you never know about the cure. Maybe that's just my thought. You do make a valid point. I never thought of it that way.

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Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

So what?


Fanservice is an evil. :mellow:

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I have no objections to curing Thane (or not), but it's not something I'm interested in seeing in a DLC. I'd rather it be option in ME3.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 26 janvier 2011 - 04:20 .


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xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

I was just thinking about this..it'd make for an awesome twist if Thane dies of the disease and his son, Kolyat offers to take his place in "finishing what his father started" (ie. helping Shepard in the fight against the Reapers). That way, you still end up with a Drell in your crew.

Sorry to single you out but......why do people keep suggesting this?

The entire point of Thanes Loyalty Mission was to keep Kolyat from becoming like his father.

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Can I just ask:



What would the point be giving him a terminal disease, just to cure it?

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AntiChri5 wrote...

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

I was just thinking about this..it'd make for an awesome twist if Thane dies of the disease and his son, Kolyat offers to take his place in "finishing what his father started" (ie. helping Shepard in the fight against the Reapers). That way, you still end up with a Drell in your crew.

Sorry to single you out but......why do people keep suggesting this?

The entire point of Thanes Loyalty Mission was to keep Kolyat from becoming like his father.

The fact Kolyat has no combat ability also makes it seem like a stupid suggestion.

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monimakitten wrote...

Shadow_Soul wrote...

monimakitten wrote...
How many options did femShep really have? Jacob didnt do it for many of us because of bad dialouge. And Garrus as sweet as he is, may be just to alien for many. Thane was made to attract femals, so I think they left an opening in their writing to save him dependig on how popular he got


More then those 3, when you add Liara, Kaidan and Kelly. Plus the semi-romance of Samara, the death-romance with Morinth and for those people who can mod, any maleShep romances as well. (just sayin')


Well for most female gamers romancing another female isnt really the thing we are after. Kaidan was the only male LI in ME1. If you didnt like him you got nothing


I'm a female, myself and would so make a FemShep some guyShep LIs (even if I'm only a xbox player) But, you make a point. I've only ever romanced nobody or Garrus. I need a to romance other people at some point...

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We need to take the "For the c*re" phrase off this forum! Suesall G Komen's lawyer army will shut this forum down and sue all of its posters for everything they have if one of her people sees that phrase.



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Writing a character who had a death wish, because he ended up terminally ill, probably seemed like an interesting idea. It almost feels like exploitation, though. It's awesome that ME2 has so many compelling characters with 'emotionally engaging components to their back-stories and personalities, but some things should be kept sacred. . . .



Thane's interesting philosophical outlook, and health status was probably intended to play on the emotions, and introduce people to the terminal illness issue, who may never have been exposed to it before (Similar with Jack, and her mental health/anger issues). If Jack can find some healing in a romance with Shepard, I don't see why Shepard can't aid Thane in looking for a cure, or at least encourage him to seek help from Hanar scientists or other specialists (Mordin, perhaps) to prolong his life long enough until the cure is discovered. Continual organ transplants, until more stable treatments are found or something.

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Wizz wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

So what?


Fanservice is an evil. :mellow:


Asari are fanservice. Miranda is fanservice. Tali and Garrus being romanceable in ME2 is fanservice.

Fanservice may be an evil, but it definitely belongs to the Mass Effect universe, at least to some noticeable extent.

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as much as anyone hates to see their favourite character/LI die, thane's mortality was explicit right from the start - to cheapen his character with a "cure" would just be a cop-out and cheapen an excellent character - better to die with dignity. i fully expect certain other characters not to return: mordin (age), jack (no reason to stay other than shep romance), grunt, samara (no reason to stay) etc despite popularity/merit of any.

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I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of curing Thane as long as its done correctly. By that I mean if Thane is cured and gets into Mass Effect 3 than all the other romanceable squadmates should be in it as well.

I would hate to see another Liara > Ashley/Kaidan situation. As long as every other character gets treated equally and Thane is not made a favorite I am all for it.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 26 janvier 2011 - 04:48 .


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Shavon wrote...

Writing a character who had a death wish, because he ended up terminally ill, probably seemed like an interesting idea. It almost feels like exploitation, though. It's awesome that ME2 has so many compelling characters with 'emotionally engaging components to their back-stories and personalities, but some things should be kept sacred. . . .

Thane's interesting philosophical outlook, and health status was probably intended to play on the emotions, and introduce people to the terminal illness issue, who may never have been exposed to it before (Similar with Jack, and her mental health/anger issues). If Jack can find some healing in a romance with Shepard, I don't see why Shepard can't aid Thane in looking for a cure, or at least encourage him to seek help from Hanar scientists or other specialists (Mordin, perhaps) to prolong his life long enough until the cure is discovered. Continual organ transplants, until more stable treatments are found or something.

The thing is Jack would never be normal after that. A relationship isn't a cure. Improved? Maybe. I kinda see asking for Thane to be cured, to be along the lines of asking that romancing Jack should make her stable, sane and 'grow her hair*'. The information the game gives us is blunt about neither of them being likely to happen. (In Jack's case, woo!)

Eh, I can completely understand why Thane fanes want one though, I just respectfully disagree.

*How a paragon romance links with that flies over my head..

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Jebel Krong wrote...

as much as anyone hates to see their favourite character/LI die, thane's mortality was explicit right from the start - to cheapen his character with a "cure" would just be a cop-out and cheapen an excellent character - better to die with dignity. i fully expect certain other characters not to return: mordin (age), jack (no reason to stay other than shep romance), grunt, samara (no reason to stay) etc despite popularity/merit of any.


Who is to say Bioware intended to kill him in the first place? We dont know that for sure.
And if you cure Thane your actually saving thousands of drell lifes. Thats sound too me a very wothy cause.Especially since there are only a couple hundred thousand drell left.

And Mordin will be there, I am a pretty sure.

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Jebel Krong wrote...

as much as anyone hates to see their favourite character/LI die, thane's mortality was explicit right from the start - to cheapen his character with a "cure" would just be a cop-out and cheapen an excellent character - better to die with dignity. i fully expect certain other characters not to return: mordin (age), jack (no reason to stay other than shep romance), grunt, samara (no reason to stay) etc despite popularity/merit of any.

So, curing Thane is a fanservice?  Yes, but I don't think fanservice is always a bad thing.  To a point, Bw still listens to fan feedback, and incorporates things in the games that the fans asked for or would love (Kasumi's dress for FemShep, ammo/thermal clip system, regenerative health, etc).

Curing Thane would certainly not cheapen his character, if you read my post above, you'll see my reasoning.  No one gives a reason for why it owuld be 'cliche' or why it would cheapen Thane's character.  Did making Tali romancable because  the fans wanted her to be so much cheapen her character?  Not to them, no.  Did changing the combat system cheapen the experience of the game? No.

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Dying is a part of the *life* experience, some people just know it will be a part of theirs sooner than others. If *they* don't let it define them, then to me it is not their defining characteristic.



Perhaps *cure* is too strong a word. What if a treatment was found that could improve his condition and put it, for an unknown period of time, in a sort of remission? It happens with many earth-found illnesses because of treatment or on its own so wouldn't be so horribly improbable, really.