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Anyway, BioWare can always give us an option: save Thane, but sacrifice something else. Or you can choose to not cure him at all. What's the problem? If someone wants to see him dead - he'll get it. But leave the possibility for other players.

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I vote for pumpkinpirate's idea.

The cure for Keprel's syndrome is rainbow coloured unicorn poo.



And guys! If you don't want a cure, then kill Thane in the suicide mission, it's your choice after all. The SM features flames, explosions, hordes of enemies and an epic soundtrack, so he can flame out rather than fade away.



Also, those who believe that him dying is the only thing that defines him should take a trip to life support. And I recommend you all find out what is contained in the illusive mug on the desk.

I support Thane having a great plot twist, perhaps not so simple as a cure, but he is a great character. and deserves to have a great story.

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akidaki wrote...

Or you can choose to not cure him at all. What's the problem? If someone wants to see him dead - he'll get it. But leave the possibility for other players.


^This!

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

I don't want tragedy.

Then you shouldn't have gotten involved with the guy who told you he was dying IN YOUR VERY FIRST CONVERSATION.

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Shepard: Thane, Mordin thinks he's made a break through. It might not be too late to cure your Kepral's Syndrome!

Thane: Praise the gods, is there anything I can do to help?

Shepard: No. You see, we would have to complete a sidequest to help Mordin complete the cure.

Thane: What are we waiting for?

Shepard: Oh, you thought I was gonna save you? Nah, lol. Your death should make the story much more tragic and enjoyable for the player.

Thane: ...

Shepard: Love ya, baby!

#131
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besides blasto, what do the hanar REALLY have going for them in terms of helping Shepard defeat the Reapers? add to that the fact that Drell has Keplars, and you'd be better off just letting them chill on their world.

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flem1 wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I don't want tragedy.

Then you shouldn't have gotten involved with the guy who told you he was dying IN YOUR VERY FIRST CONVERSATION.


Maybe she shouldn't, but nevertheless she fall for him. What's next? It's not about player's choice, it's about feelings.

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IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Shepard: Thane, Mordin thinks he's made a break through. It might not be too late to cure your Kepral's Syndrome!
Thane: Praise the gods, is there anything I can do to help?
Shepard: No. You see, we would have to complete a sidequest to help Mordin complete the cure.
Thane: What are we waiting for?
Shepard: Oh, you thought I was gonna save you? Nah, lol. Your death should make the story much more tragic and enjoyable for the player.
Thane: ...
Shepard: Love ya, baby!

This is actually why the "oh, you can just let him die" response is stupid.

As for the real-life analogy, guess what: we're not taking about real life. We're talking about a story, and what would be good in life often makes a bad story. Would you prefer in ME1 if you could prevent Saren from ever attacking Eden Prime or the Citadel by pressing a magic button? Uh, no. Stories--even heroic ones about how great the protagonist is--only make sense when they acknowledge the limits of what even the greatest hero can do. Shepard can't save both Ashley and Kaidan, (s)he can't get Samara to ditch her oath, and (s)he shouldn't be able to save Thane either. It makes what you can do even sweeter.

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I do want to see him cured. Thane is always a friend for all my Shepards.





But, I don't know, I'm more worried on how are they going to explain a cure for his disease. It sounded like, in ME2, that a cure is very distant thing for the scientists...

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PetrySilva wrote...

I do want to see him cured. Thane is always a friend for all my Shepards.

But, I don't know, I'm more worried on how are they going to explain a cure for his disease. It sounded like, in ME2, that a cure is very distant thing for the scientists...

This I actually agree with. I hope there is a realistic explanation for any potential cure.

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It all depends on the writing. If Bioware gives us a plausable route to curing Thane, then I'm all for it. But if it's just one of those things where it's going in and shooting up a few mech drones and beating up a mustache-twirling villain, then I'm going to be disappointed.

Thane is one of the best characters, if not the best character in the game. Like it or not, his sickness is part of what draws us to him because of his outlook pertaining to it. By going to find a cure you do put his character at risk in a way. But it all boils down to writing. We can be made to believe and accept anything if Bioware brings it to us in an acceptable and compelling fashion.

Modifié par Hammertime80, 26 janvier 2011 - 08:46 .


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akidaki wrote...

Anyway, BioWare can always give us an option: save Thane, but sacrifice something else. Or you can choose to not cure him at all. What's the problem? If someone wants to see him dead - he'll get it. But leave the possibility for other players.


I agree that there must be a sacrifice, if the cure is a choice. Like I suggested, Thane would be temporarily incapacitated and not selectable as a squadmate for the remainder of the game. That would be a nice little dilemma.

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Again, how does Thane's character become 'at risk' if there is a cure? Someone, please tell me.



All of you who are saying that are just saying something someone once said on the forums that sounds good. But it's not true. Nonsensical.

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Thane should be dead before ME3 starts.

Mordin should die of old age during ME3.

I will cry manly tears.


No just no!

Thane deserves more than an off screen death and a quick mention, he should go down swingin, assuming he made it in ME2 that is.

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Hammertime80 wrote...

It all depends on the writing. If Bioware gives us a plausable route to curing Thane, then I'm all for it. But if it's just one of those things where it's going in and shooting up a few mech drones and beating up a mustache-twirling villain, then I'm going to be disappointed.

Thane is one of the best characters, if not the best character in the game. Like it or not, his sickness is part of what draws us to him because of his outlook pertaining to it. By going to find a cure you do put his character at risk in a way. But it all boils down to writing. We can be made to believe and accept anything if Bioware brings it to us in an acceptable and compelling fashion.

This line right here is what I've been trying to say all along. The entire reason for giving Thane his sickness may very well be as simple as to add meaning and depth to his portrayed philosophy and outlook toward the world, because otherwise it might not make too much sense. That is to say, they never actually planned to kill him off.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 26 janvier 2011 - 08:55 .


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akidaki wrote...

flem1 wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I don't want tragedy.

Then you shouldn't have gotten involved with the guy who told you he was dying IN YOUR VERY FIRST CONVERSATION.


Maybe she shouldn't, but nevertheless she fall for him. What's next? It's not about player's choice, it's about feelings.

Feelings can change human facts, but they can't change natural facts. And the fact is, he should be toast.

Heck, feelings often can't even change human facts... Replace "dying" in my first post with "married" or even "not ready for a relationship" and you have an all too common sad case. Is it really good to perpetuate the wishful delusion that you can ignore these red flags and not get hurt?

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rooky91 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

Thane should be dead before ME3 starts.

Mordin should die of old age during ME3.

I will cry manly tears.


No just no!

Thane deserves more than an off screen death and a quick mention, he should go down swingin, assuming he made it in ME2 that is.

You cant kill mordin he is the very model of a scientist salarian he is unkillable

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Hammertime80 wrote...

It all depends on the writing. If Bioware gives us a plausable route to curing Thane, then I'm all for it. But if it's just one of those things where it's going in and shooting up a few mech drones and beating up a mustache-twirling villain, then I'm going to be disappointed.

Thane is one of the best characters, if not the best character in the game. Like it or not, his sickness is part of what draws us to him because of his outlook pertaining to it. By going to find a cure you do put his character at risk in a way. But it all boils down to writing. We can be made to believe and accept anything if Bioware brings it to us in an acceptable and compelling fashion.



Well I loved Thane from his first necksnap, when he said he was dying I was disappointed, not more drawn to him. If you remove the death of his wife, the neglect of his son, then you would be removing what makes him who he is, Thats not his illness.
His illness makes his story more urgent, hence some of his choices. However Thane would still have stopped his son from becomming a hitman, even if he was a healthy man.  He would also have joined Shepard though probably at a price.I always saw  his desire to make the galaxy a better place more due to the guilt of wifes death than anything else.

But I do agree that good writing will make or break a potential cure. I however have faith in Bioware:)

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flem1 wrote...
 Feelings can change human facts, but they can't change natural facts. And the fact is, he should be toast.


And in your  game that is fine.  But as others have repeatedly said, which some choose to skip reading, or purposely misunderstand, there are things in the game, reported on the Cerberus network, and put out by the various newsfeeds of Bioware, that hint towards a cure.  Not all is lost for those who romance him, or want him to live.

So, you are wrong.

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Curing him would be stupid to say the least.

"I'm dying......."

[Later in ME3]

"Oh wait. Guess not L O L!


Give him a special farewell in ME3.

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rooky91 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

Thane should be dead before ME3 starts.

Mordin should die of old age during ME3.

I will cry manly tears.


No just no!

Thane deserves more than an off screen death and a quick mention, he should go down swingin, assuming he made it in ME2 that is.

IMO he deserves a legacy quest.  Much better than a cheap fanservice cure plot.

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flem1 wrote...

akidaki wrote...

flem1 wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I don't want tragedy.

Then you shouldn't have gotten involved with the guy who told you he was dying IN YOUR VERY FIRST CONVERSATION.


Maybe she shouldn't, but nevertheless she fall for him. What's next? It's not about player's choice, it's about feelings.

Feelings can change human facts, but they can't change natural facts. And the fact is, he should be toast.

Heck, feelings often can't even change human facts... Replace "dying" in my first post with "married" or even "not ready for a relationship" and you have an all too common sad case. Is it really good to perpetuate the wishful delusion that you can ignore these red flags and not get hurt?


Than neither should Tali fans, being with her could kill her, However all she got was the sniffles.. Bioware has done many things that defy "natural"  laws.I just dont get why Thane is the one that gets all the  sudden need for realism.

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flem1 wrote...
Heck, feelings often can't even change human facts... Replace "dying" in my first post with "married" or even "not ready for a relationship" and you have an all too common sad case. Is it really good to perpetuate the wishful delusion that you can ignore these red flags and not get hurt?


It's not the same. He can be married or "not ready for a relationship", but he's still alive. In our case Shepard wants to fight for his life and I'm sure she will turn this galaxy upside down for him.
You know... Miracles happen even in real life. Okay, you can call it fanservice, but it's just a game. And if so many players want him to live, there must be an option. Because Thane is not an exсeption: Tali and Garrus can't have relationships with human, but they do because fans wanted it.

Modifié par akidaki, 26 janvier 2011 - 09:21 .


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I don't know if it has been mentioned already, but the fight for the cure shep pyramid was made by a bunch of artists on deviant art. I think it was connected to the "mass effect fan meme" stuff going around.

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Nashiktal wrote...

I don't know if it has been mentioned already, but the fight for the cure shep pyramid was made by a bunch of artists on deviant art. I think it was connected to the "mass effect fan meme" stuff going around.


JFYI it was Hana Raad who came up with the idea and promoted it both on BSN and on DeviantArt and then made all the Sheps come together. ;)

Not related to memes.

Modifié par Big stupid jellyfish, 26 janvier 2011 - 09:29 .