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[TheButterflyEffect]

So if Reapers end up resembling the species that their organic material was taken from, then how come all of the Reapers we see look like gigantic squids? 

[Annihilator27]

I dont know, They probably eventually turn into a squid thing.

[JHU_P4NDA]

I originally thought that they looked very much like Asari heads when their legs are retracted (first noticed in that datapad Joker hands you right before you're shown the thousands of Reapers waking up). Then, I realized that makes no sense...



Who knows. A majority of them could have been created in the "beginning", from one race. I suppose we'll never really know until we know more about them in Mass Effect 3.

[Code_R]

The Reaper that causes this discussion is not nearly big enough so it's probably just the insides.

[AdmiralCheez]

The squiddy thing is probably just the outer shell.

[samuraix87]

in the art book that came with the collectors addition shows were the actual reaper is its the underside of the squid form probaly cramed in to fit the squid shell

[Elvis_Mazur]

And who said that? EDI?



So, we have just the word of what an AI thinks about the process?



What says it can't have something else involved in that?

[BatarianBob]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

So if Reapers end up resembling the species that their organic material was taken from, then how come all of the Reapers we see look like gigantic squids? 

Most likely the finished Reapers all end up looking like giant squids no matter what.  Somewhere in the ships are a giant robot version of the species they came from.

[Cru Hunter]

Actually, looking at the footage that shows the ending, there are actually some pretty big differences in reaper shape. I think that the basic form (that identify reapers as cuttlefish-like) is just standard 'armor/weapons' attached to each reaper, on top of the unique form that defines each conquered race.

In the sequence there's harbinger, obviously. I see three different types  of reapers, excluding a fourth (being harbinger). One is cone-shaped, another looks like a scarab beatle, and yet another has a flat 'head' that looks a lot like the helmet of a type of Elite from Halo.

No doubt the Reaper uber-army doesn't consist of just four types of Reaper.

[shoggoth1890]

The only issue I have with the "squid shell" theory is that it in effect, makes the revelation of Sovereign as a being instead of a ship irrelevant. All a ship is, is essentially a shell around that which controls it.

[Joram Talid]

samuraix87 wrote...

in the art book that came with the collectors addition shows were the actual reaper is its the underside of the squid form probaly cramed in to fit the squid shell

is this image available anywhere online?

[Morton_86]

Joram Talid wrote...

samuraix87 wrote...

in the art book that came with the collectors addition shows were the actual reaper is its the underside of the squid form probaly cramed in to fit the squid shell

is this image available anywhere online?

http://i50.tinypic.com/200xr20.jpg

[Jibbed34]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

So if Reapers end up resembling the species that their organic material was taken from, then how come all of the Reapers we see look like gigantic squids? 

No one has ever confirmed this theory.

My guess is that the Human-Reaper was not really a 'true' Reaper... it was merely just a convenient tool for the Collectors to construct. The Reapers are still trapped in dark space in ME2, so they needed a replacement for Sovereign.

Think about it. The Reapers are essentially machines, so their logic would flow something like this:

Sovereign = 1 standard Reaper
Sovereign beaten by Humans
Not enough resources for Collectors to build 'true' Reaper army (true Reapers trapped in dark space)
Humans genetically useful, plentiful
Combination of Human material and Reaper would stand a better chance against Humans
Collectors can make Human-Reaper quickly
Deploy Human-Reaper to manually open Citadel relay

Modifié par Jibbed34, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:42 .

[Jibbed34]

samuraix87 wrote...

in the art book that came with the collectors addition shows were the actual reaper is its the underside of the squid form probaly cramed in to fit the squid shell

That's just concept art exploring the whole 'squiddy' theme.. the Reaper ships ARE the Reapers, there is nothing 'hiding' inside.

[Joram Talid]

Jibbed34 wrote...

samuraix87 wrote...

in the art book that came with the collectors addition shows were the actual reaper is its the underside of the squid form probaly cramed in to fit the squid shell

That's just concept art exploring the whole 'squiddy' theme.. the Reaper ships ARE the Reapers, there is nothing 'hiding' inside.

did you check out that picture that a very nice forums member posted? very interesting.

[MajesticJazz]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The squiddy thing is probably just the outer shell.

I am so tired and irked by people saying this!

If the squiddy thing is just the outer shell, then where does the "unqiue species" form show itself? By looking at the Reapers, how can we tell which race was used to make them because EVERY single aspect of them looks idential.

[The Fan]

 Maybe we haven't seen all of the different kinds of reapers 

[Cru Hunter]

MajesticJazz wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The squiddy thing is probably just the outer shell.

I am so tired and irked by people saying this!

If the squiddy thing is just the outer shell, then where does the "unqiue species" form show itself? By looking at the Reapers, how can we tell which race was used to make them because EVERY single aspect of them looks idential.

There are at least four types of Reaper, and that's from a close look at the end cutscene.

[PARAGON87]

EDI postulated that the Reaper resembled the race that it was being created from. I would think while the Human-Reaper would look somewhat human, but still have that base squid-like form.

[MajesticJazz]

PARAGON87 wrote...

EDI postulated that the Reaper resembled the race that it was being created from. I would think while the Human-Reaper would look somewhat human, but still have that base squid-like form.

I'm still calling BS!

If the Reapers take form of the races that they liquify, then why do most reapers look the same!

[marshalleck]

MajesticJazz wrote...

If the Reapers take form of the races that they liquify, then why do most reapers look the same!

They don't all look the same. Are you just going to continue to ignore this?

Edit: this should not be taken as endorsement of the idea that Reapers take their shape from the species they 'reap'

Harbinger


Sovereign


Can we put this thread to rest now, since it's built on a false premise?

Sovereign's profile is similar to that of a cuttlefish. Harbinger on the other hand reminds me of a cockroach. A big disgusting 2km long metallic bastard cockroach. Yuck.

Modifié par marshalleck, 26 janvier 2011 - 03:43 .

[PARAGON87]

Never mind.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 26 janvier 2011 - 04:17 .

[meh_cd]

The human reaper makes even less sense when you save the base and talk to Legion.

[JHU_P4NDA]

 There is also NO reason to assume that previous iterations of technologically-advanced like had to look anything like life does in the current ME universe, where most advanced races have four limbs, stand on two legs, and so forth. 
And, it's not like a Reaper is literally an exact copy of the race it is based on. Go back and look at the bottom of the human Reaper in the game. the spinal cord tapers off to an end, much like the tapering end of most reapers. The reapers may all share many similar features, since they are all reapers (All humans have arms, legs, but are based on the appearance of "those who make them", i.e. parents). 

[marshalleck]

JHU_P4NDA wrote...

 There is also NO reason to assume that previous iterations of technologically-advanced like had to look anything like life does in the current ME universe, where most advanced races have four limbs, stand on two legs, and so forth. 
And, it's not like a Reaper is literally an exact copy of the race it is based on. Go back and look at the bottom of the human Reaper in the game. the spinal cord tapers off to an end, much like the tapering end of most reapers. The reapers may all share many similar features, since they are all reapers (All humans have arms, legs, but are based on the appearance of "those who make them", i.e. parents). 

This is pure speculation and those graphics are just concept art for what could have been, not what Reapers are.