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Interesting...

Is it Kirkwall's seal or something?

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Now this is an interesting article, in particular the dalish info that they have an Aralathvhen gathering every ten years. With DA2 taking place over ten years I wonder if that's a coincidence?

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Mass Effect geth ~ Dragon Age qunari anyone?

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asfaltowy wrote...

Mass Effect geth ~ Dragon Age qunari anyone?

Uh, no.

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Interesting stuff about the Qunari. I dig the concept art. So they cut off the mages' horns?

EDIT - Oho, check this out and then the symbol scratched on the wall in this. That house could well be a mere Alienage slum, but the fact that the symbol is scratched over the Kirkwall heraldry makes me think of an elven uprising of some sort. They aren't the exact same symbol, but how dull would these boards be without speculation?


Actually it looks more like the dwarven merchant heraldry. I don't know what the red is on that wall because it doesn't look like the elven heraldry.

Modifié par KhorinShizucor, 25 janvier 2011 - 11:18 .


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Not really, they both have lack of individuality but for very different reasons, plus the Qunari are aggresivly trying to make everyone accept the Qun rather than the Geth, who just want to be left alone to build dyson spheres.

I think the Qunari are probably closer to Collectivists with Confucian, Turkish and Buddhist elements.

Modifié par Josef bugman3, 25 janvier 2011 - 11:18 .


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asfaltowy wrote...

Mass Effect geth ~ Dragon Age qunari anyone?

What, are you saying that the ones in Thedas are the only ones obsessed with eradicating every other culture in the world, and the majority of them who live overseas aren't so bad?

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bobobo878 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

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Interesting...

Is it Kirkwall's seal or something?


OMG it's the towers of hanoy!  Confirmation of a towers of hanoi puzzle in DA2.

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I thought they said there would not be any female qunari (probably since they do not leave the cities) Sad though they would've been awesome!

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It was an interesting read. There are a couple things that stand out though.



Does it sound at all like the Surface dwarves might have been retconed somewhat? I don't recall reading or seeing anything in DOA that implies they reform their own caste system up there. Especially since most of them seem to change their profession anyways. Didn't the Codex say that most of them become merchants?



Secondly, this is probably a minor point but if so many of those Qunari don't seem to be wearing any shirts or torso armor in the pictures, then why did Sten? do all or most Qunari soldiers go into battle with little to no protection on their chest?

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It was an interesting read. There are a couple things that stand out though.

Does it sound at all like the Surface dwarves might have been retconed somewhat? I don't recall reading or seeing anything in DOA that implies they reform their own caste system up there. Especially since most of them seem to change their profession anyways. Didn't the Codex say that most of them become merchants?

Secondly, this is probably a minor point but if so many of those Qunari don't seem to be wearing any shirts or torso armor in the pictures, then why did Sten? do all or most Qunari soldiers go into battle with little to no protection on their chest?


Perhaps but how often did we see dwarves topside in the same company?  As they say you may be a merchant with pedigree topside but if you see a castless you will still sneer at them.

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A fantastic Blog update, and some really thought provoking bits of information/lore; however, those have been discussed to great extent so I won't bother with my own meager two cents. I will say that seeing the concept art for the races again slightly depressed me as it was a fresh reminder that we won't see the Female Qunari in game, nor have one as a companion as was speculated early on after DA2's official reveal. Mr. Gaider already explained very well *why* the Female Qunari would not be seen in the game (at least the core game) Still, it leave a bitter taste in the mouth...
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They've been retconned a little, but tbh we didn't see enough of them in Origins to give them a character as a seperate people. Plus its probably not something you can really go into much as you are trying to weld together an army/stop a blight at the time. And most of the dwarves on the surface ARE merchants, its just that they are merchants of different things.



And maybe its to fit in better? Sten is using it as camoflague and after he lost his own armour? *shrug*, as long as it looks awesome I don't really mind.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It was an interesting read. There are a couple things that stand out though.

Does it sound at all like the Surface dwarves might have been retconed somewhat? I don't recall reading or seeing anything in DOA that implies they reform their own caste system up there. Especially since most of them seem to change their profession anyways. Didn't the Codex say that most of them become merchants?


I think the problem is that the article uses the word 'caste' when it means 'class.'

Most surface dwarves are merchants but they have a class system based on the castes of Orzammar.

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Josef bugman3 wrote...

I am not sure if ALL of them are that however. I mean although most Male Qunari could be put into the army I am sure that several can become Kadaan for instance. But it is more likely that all of the Qunari in the "militant" sections are male, but that at least a few of them can become otherwise. Afterall I think Gaider himself said that the Qunari "don't waste resources".


Uh, I don't think Kadan is a title. According to the dragon age wiki it is: Kadan: Term for something one values highly. Or sometimes the center of the chest. (Literally, "where the heart lies.") The Warden is called this for retrieving Asala.

And yes, they say they 'don't waste resources' but they do have strict gender roles, I'm not saying the only jobs men can have are in the army, I"m just saying they probably aren't craftsman, farmers, or priests, or any other jobs that are traditionaly womens jobs in the qun.

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So how does he stay alive if his mouth is sewn/ stapled shut..?


Remember that these are qunari. If Sten is any indication, they can literally survive several weeks without food or water.

So they only need to cut the bindings every couple of months or so to allow a qunari mage to eat a few morsels of food. Then they sew him back up again. Rinse and repeat for the rest of his life.

Qunari mages have it gooooooooooood.

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Ah I am thinking of another term (sorry) Ashkari.

hmmm, maybe. I suppose if we ever get to visit Par Vallon we'll find out *hint hint*

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Face of Evil wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

So how does he stay alive if his mouth is sewn/ stapled shut..?


Remember that these are qunari. If Sten is any indication, they can literally survive several weeks without food or water.

So they only need to cut the bindings every couple of months or so to allow a qunari mage to eat a few morsels of food. Then they sew him back up again.


The can survive without water and food. But I don't know if they can properly fight without food and water for a long time.
Howewer, the qunari treat their mages in a very cruel way, much worse than I believe when I played DAO, if the whole "mouth stapled shut" is real.

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Josef bugman3 wrote...

Ah I am thinking of another term (sorry) Ashkari.

hmmm, maybe. I suppose if we ever get to visit Par Vallon we'll find out *hint hint*


I'd love to go and hear qunari music. The mental image of a qunari bard makes me giggle.

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hhh89 wrote...

Howewer, the qunari treat their mages in a very cruel way, much worse than I believe when I played DAO, if the whole "mouth stapled shut" is real.


They're mages. Even if they're allowed to fight, they don't have to use weapons.

In DAO, Sten said they cut the tongues from their mages and put them on leashes.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 25 janvier 2011 - 11:54 .


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I'm falling deeper and deeper in love with qunari society.

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Face of Evil wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Howewer, the qunari treat their mages in a very cruel way, much worse than I believe when I played DAO, if the whole "mouth stapled shut" is real.


They're mages. Even if they're allowed to fight, they don't have to use weapons.

In DAO, Sten said they cut the tongues from their mages and put them on leashes.


I know about the tongue and the leashes, but the tongue (could) have an explanation for preventing the mages to became abomination (altough I'm against this measure). But the fact that the mouth is stapled shut doesn't have sense. They can't even properly eat.

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hhh89 wrote...

I know about the tongue and the leashes, but the tongue (could) have an explanation for preventing the mages to became abomination (altough I'm against this measure). But the fact that the mouth is stapled shut doesn't have sense. They can't even properly eat.


Limits them from casting certain spells and helps marginalize them. The pain they suffer from having their mouths closed is their punishment for being mages.

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I was scrolling down the page for new pictures, saw this,
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thought it was for dragon age 2. :(


Don't spoil the shocking twist ending.

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KhorinShizucor wrote...

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Interesting stuff about the Qunari. I dig the concept art. So they cut off the mages' horns?

EDIT - Oho, check this out and then the symbol scratched on the wall in this. That house could well be a mere Alienage slum, but the fact that the symbol is scratched over the Kirkwall heraldry makes me think of an elven uprising of some sort. They aren't the exact same symbol, but how dull would these boards be without speculation?


Actually it looks more like the dwarven merchant heraldry. I don't know what the red is on that wall because it doesn't look like the elven heraldry.


Different:
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Merchant/Wall with Grafitti/Symbol of Kirkwall

Modifié par yukidama, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:09 .