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#76
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Yes, space born elvis arrives and kills Flemeth (is that actually TIM? Cause why does he have a 1950's greasers quiff?)

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yukidama wrote...

Different:
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Ahh thanks for that. So the far right is the Kirwall heraldry?

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Face of Evil wrote...


Limits them from casting certain spells and helps marginalize them. The pain they suffer from having their mouths closed is their punishment for being mages.


I don't know if punishment is the right word; I doubt the Qunari are so spiteful. From what I understand, they don't blame mages for being what they are-- they pity them.

And then proceed to treat them worse than cattle. As a safety measure.

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KhorinShizucor wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Different:


Ahh thanks for that. So the far right is the Kirwall heraldry?


Yeah, you can see it here, and it's on Viscount Deadguy's cape as well:
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Though the BioWare store calls it the Champion's Mark on the hoodie they sell with the design.

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yukidama wrote...

Different:
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Merchant/Wall with Grafitti/Symbol of Kirkwall



And yet strangely similar.

Also, the red in the middle puts me in mind of a bird.  A phoenix, even.

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RitaChe wrote...

I don't know if punishment is the right word; I doubt the Qunari are so spiteful. From what I understand, they don't blame mages for being what they are-- they pity them.


Sten seems to think so, but even he shares a hatred of magic.

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Ambeth wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Different:
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Merchant/Wall with Grafitti/Symbol of Kirkwall



And yet strangely similar.

Also, the red in the middle puts me in mind of a bird.  A phoenix, even.


What's so strange about it? It seems very intentional.

I remember there were some dev posts on the symbol, it originally had something to do with slaves. Can't remember the details, though.

Modifié par yukidama, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:16 .


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Ambeth wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Different:
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Merchant/Wall with Grafitti/Symbol of Kirkwall



And yet strangely similar.

Also, the red in the middle puts me in mind of a bird.  A phoenix, even.

Or a dragon. Look at the new blood dragon logo over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.

There's this, too.

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Modifié par Blacklash93, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:21 .


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Blacklash93 wrote...
Or a dragon. Look at the new blood dragon logo over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.

There's this, too.

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Ah!  Dragon.  Yes.

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Who is the crowned figure on the merchant's guild heraldry?

I don't think the figure is a dragon. The dragon is the symbol of the Tevinter empire. That symbol was used to denote the slave rebellion against the empire.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:27 .


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Just throwing it out there. Dragons always seem to be in red plus there is a resemblance with angle of the head and the overall figure.

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An elven uprising in Kirkwall would provide an awfully convenient "hook" for Fenris. I think that's a good guess.



And that poor Qunari mage! What's on his face? I mean, it does look like his mouth is sewn shut but it also looks like he has warty things on his face? Or maybe I'm seeing things. And yeah, how DOES he eat, anyway? Qunari armor is awesome-looking though. I love their skirts.

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Anarya wrote...
And that poor Qunari mage! What's on his face?


I honestly can't tell if that's supposed to be some sort of mask or his actual face... :?

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I wonder if Kirkwall is the only place that Dwarves and Elves have their own heraldry. Also, I like how they resemble the Kirkwall heralrdy - showing that they belong in Kirkwall but unique in some way.

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Eveangaline wrote...

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Ah I am thinking of another term (sorry) Ashkari.

hmmm, maybe. I suppose if we ever get to visit Par Vallon we'll find out *hint hint*


I'd love to go and hear qunari music. The mental image of a qunari bard makes me giggle.


I actually doubt they have music, perhaps folk songs, but not dedicated musicians, the culture seems to not include any roles that are not necessary.  It would seem odd anyways from what we learned in origins, but they did change a lot of things for DA2.

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wonder if we be able to have a other qunari character in our team? too bad we wont be able to see a female one :P

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Sharn01 wrote...

I actually doubt they have music, perhaps folk songs, but not dedicated musicians, the culture seems to not include any roles that are not necessary.  It would seem odd anyways from what we learned in origins, but they did change a lot of things for DA2.


No, they have artists, I think. All of those paintings you can give Sten, he talks about how he admires the skill it takes to paint in much the same way as it takes skill to fight. I doubt he would say that if it were something only unenlightened foreigners did.

Well, on the other hand, he does love cookies...

Modifié par filaminstrel, 26 janvier 2011 - 05:52 .


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Sharn01 wrote...
I actually doubt they have music, perhaps folk songs, but not dedicated musicians, the culture seems to not include any roles that are not necessary.  It would seem odd anyways from what we learned in origins, but they did change a lot of things for DA2.


The Qunari do have music, as well as art-- all part of the artisan class (and thus strictly the province of females). The Qunari are not drably utilitarian so much as they seek perfection. Qunari art might be considered strange from the perspective of other peoples, however, as they make it for different reasons: religious, mainly, as well as ornamentation of their architecture. The Qun is grand, after all, and dedicating one's life to its praise is no waste.

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Ambeth wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Different:
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Merchant/Wall with Grafitti/Symbol of Kirkwall



And yet strangely similar.

Also, the red in the middle puts me in mind of a bird.  A phoenix, even.


Is it just me or is the cultural symbolism of the Free Marches a pointy edge? Meredith's helmet, Flemeth's headband, all the different racial symbols...

There's something going on with symbology here. Maybe a weapon-based culture? 

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David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
I actually doubt they have music, perhaps folk songs, but not dedicated musicians, the culture seems to not include any roles that are not necessary.  It would seem odd anyways from what we learned in origins, but they did change a lot of things for DA2.


The Qunari do have music, as well as art-- all part of the artisan class (and thus strictly the province of females). The Qunari are not drably utilitarian so much as they seek perfection. Qunari art might be considered strange from the perspective of other peoples, however, as they make it for different reasons: religious, mainly, as well as ornamentation of their architecture. The Qun is grand, after all, and dedicating one's life to its praise is no waste.


The Qunari have something similar to the Shaperate? I'm assuming it's runned by women?

Also, an two classes work togheter? Let's say there's a... writer class. A writer can work with a warrior to write a book about the art of the war or something like this?

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think that qunari with cut off horn is Tal'Vashoth mage probably blood mage

i doubt saarebas their cut horn unless they become Tal'Vashoth

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elfdwarf wrote...

think that qunari with cut off horn is Tal'Vashoth mage probably blood mage
i doubt saarebas their cut horn unless they become Tal'Vashoth


Hmm. Mages have their tongue cut and are transformed in weapons. They're no more than a sword or a dagger. Maybe they cut their horns so they'll know that they're not part of the Qun anymore, and just a weapon?

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Dhiro wrote...

Maybe they cut their horns so they'll know that they're not part of the Qun anymore, and just a weapon?


Not having horns is a warning to most people who'd see them that they are dangerous. 

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Mary Kirby wrote...

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Maybe they cut their horns so they'll know that they're not part of the Qun anymore, and just a weapon?


Not having horns is a warning to most people who'd see them that they are dangerous. 


Hmm, I suppose that in a place where everybody have horns, it's natural to think this way. That mean they think Sten is dangerous too? Of course, in the concept art there are still parts of the horn in the Mage's head, and I'm assuming that Sten's head is 'plain'.

Modifié par Dhiro, 26 janvier 2011 - 06:22 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Maybe they cut their horns so they'll know that they're not part of the Qun anymore, and just a weapon?


Not having horns is a warning to most people who'd see them that they are dangerous. 

Armass wasn't very dangerous and he was a proud Vashoth.