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[Shadow of Light Dragon]

errant_knight wrote...

The third time I killed her, and after finding that she had clothes for Morrigan handily called 'Robes of Possession,' I now kill her every time. I might be greatful, but I'm not going to let her wear someone like a skin. It doesn't matter whether a given PC likes Morrigan or not.

The presence of that robe is interesting, but I'm dubious about whether its description is accurate. A -1 to any stat is hardly unusual to find on an item in the game, yet this one apparently means Flemeth means Morrigan harm! How convenient.

Plus I doubt it has a little tag that says 'Robes of Possession' on it.

Finally, again, you don't know those robes exist unless you kill Flemeth, so you'd still have to be metagaming to use their mere existence as an excuse to kill her. You could choose to believe its descriptor and use it as verification of Morrigan's word and justification for killing Flemeth, but you can't use it before you do battle with her unless you have X-ray vision.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 28 janvier 2011 - 08:12 .

[LazyDaisy]

I'm currently playing as "master manipulator/Xanatos-gambitting" character, someone who wraps people around her finger, tells them what they want to hear, uses them to further her own ambitions (of being the most powerful mage in Ferelden), then discards them when they are inconvenient.

Redcoat you make me laugh ... (insert evil wah hah hah).  I am currently playing a fem Cousland but doing it medici style.  A little poison here, a little killing there, a whole lot of manipulation / politicking all around.  And yeah, for my current character Flemeth has to go. Can't control her. Can't anticipate her. But CAN kill her and thereby remove her influence and threat.  (also took out the mages, ashes, kolgrim, and Connor to weaken the tower, chantry, haven wackos, and Eamon respectively)


That said, when playing other characters I almost always let her live.  She saved us and when the decision to kill her comes up, my char doesn't know about the DR that Flem and Morri have been cooking up.  So from that perspective and even knowing both Leliana and Morri's version of the story, she has done the GW a few services ... saved the treaties, handed over her powerful daughter, and ... oh yeah ... yanked the last two GW off a tower.  

[Avilia]

I don't kill her. That would be because I don't have Morrigan in group to ask me to ;-)

[Bardox9]

I killed her once just to see what was different. (which was nothing) I've always felt she had a larger role to play in the DA series. Then DA:2 came out and she survives anyway. So you are really just fighting over a book she is willing to just give you. Only thing the fight could really do is ****** her off. My gut says it's best not to do that.

Modifié par Bardox9, 13 janvier 2013 - 10:46 .

[TEWR]

She's a witch!

[katattax]

I killed her because Morrigan is a friend and I don't particularly want her to be possessed by an abomination, but that's just me.

[daneaboy]

 I kept her alive mainly to keep her as a counter-balance in the event that Morrigan finally reveals her true motives and becomes another great evil in her own right. As everyone has rightly pointed out these two are up to no good either way, so let them cancel each other out themselves. 

[DarthGizka]

Since this thread has been resurrected anyway...

errant_knight wrote...

The third time I killed her, and after finding that she had clothes for Morrigan handily called 'Robes of Possession,' I now kill her every time.

You get the grimoire and the robes in any case. The only thing that you get more if you kill Flemeth is 250 XP plus the high dragon kill XP. Not a whole lot, although a Sith Lord type of character might choose this option as a matter of principle (either because they are short-sighted and only care for the immediate increase in power, or because they are far-sighted and want to eliminate a powerful potential adversary while it is still easy to do).

I might be greatful, but I'm not going to let her wear someone like a skin. It doesn't matter whether a given PC likes Morrigan or not.

As has been pointed out, nobody knows for sure how much truth there is to the possession thing. Flemeth herself gives an ambiguous answer if you ask her point-blank, so the only basis is Morrigan's claim which cannot be trusted at all. A Warden who has fallen for her head over heels would be inclined to believe her implicitly, while everyone else would be rather hard pressed for a reason not to side with the elder of the two marsh witches. 

Apart from being a much more powerful potential ally, she's also razor-sharp and knows exactly which side her bread is buttered on. She does not seem to suffer from any delusions regarding herself, unlike Morrigan who appears rather naive and confused in comparison. This makes Morrigan much less predictable and she remains a bit of a wild card until much later, when her true motivation is revealed.

Hence, none of my Wardens ever killed Flemeth, except for one who chose to take Morrigan's words at face value because she was itching to harvest another dragon scale.

Modifié par DarthGizka, 26 janvier 2014 - 01:59 .

[Ferretinabun]

For my canon walkthrough I was really in two minds on this. As a Dwarf, he didn't have much experience with magic and wasn't really sure whether to trust either Morrigan or Flemeth. I think I'd decided he would flat-out refuse to help Morrigan on the basis that killing Flemeth would probably sound like a very dangerous endeavour from the start and, y'know, we have a Blight to stop.

But when it came down to it, he'd just gone through the Broken Circle quest and was still a very rattled about abominations and demons. Then you get Leliana's and Morrigan's stories about exactly what Flemeth is, and she starts to sound very creepy and dangerous. So I decided to let me warden fight Flemeth out of a general terror of abominations/demons and a sense of duty to save the world from them.

[Mike3207]

I let her give me the book peacefully and feel no guilt giving Morrigan the set of robes that sap her will. I'm actually hoping Flemeth does try to possess her in DAI.