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[AlexXIV]

Virginian wrote...

From that perspective alone is how I base my distaste of all things Chantry, Mages, & Templars. If Alistair had become a full Templar before joining the Wardens I would have sided with the wife of the dead king, even if she was a stone cold ****.

Well it's only one perpective though and there may be more. It's a different country and different people. Fereldans have always appeared a bit 'special' to me, probably in the meaning of 'slightly retarded'. So I am open to new information in the new game. Bioware let it shine through that we may get a bit different perspective on the things that happened in Ferelden and the whole story of the Fifth Blight.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 26 janvier 2011 - 06:34 .

[Sanguinerin]

Honestly, I play all of my characters as Chantry-supporters (to a degree). On mage characters, I've come to accept that some form of regulation is necessary, even if it's a necessary evil. The idea behind putting the mages in the tower for both their protection from the people and the protection of the people from them is something that I agree with ideally. In practice, it's usually much more situational. I found Greagoir to be a rather fair-minded templar, but someone like Cullen post-abomination frenzy in the tower and I can't really lean in that direction anymore.



I would probably have to say neutral at first and then depending on the circumstances I would make my choice. Mages and Templar can both have their moments of being in the right.

[Rattleface]

templars.

mages are psychopaths that like to possess young children and make them summon zombies.

[EclipticOlive54]

The Mages of course! Those templars shall feel thy wrath of a frustrated mage if they happend to anger one anyway

And of course for oppressing them, I'm sure templars are just as dangerous as a mage,but they carry swords and can do some magic as well and the that they have been taught that mages are dangerous and therefore must be dangerous to templars and others, yet templars aren't since they follow the chantry

Modifié par EclipticOlive54, 26 janvier 2011 - 06:45 .

[Voidlight]

Virginian wrote...

Apostate is just another word for
runaway slave. In other words a frakkin wussy to scared to fight for
his/her freedom. Apostates get what they deserve. If you are an Apostate
and are not actively fighting the slavers Hawke has no sympathy for
you.

An apostate is someone who abandons his or her religion, not a runaway slave. In the Dragon Age world, an apostate is simply a mage who exists outside of the Circle. Merrill and Morrigan are apostates, but they are hardly runaway slaves because they were never part of the Circle to begin with. I have no sympathy for Templars killed by apostates in self-defence, just like I have no sympathy for an armed robber who gets shot by a homeowner.

Modifié par Voidlight, 26 janvier 2011 - 06:55 .

[JrayM16]

We kinda already made such a choice in DA:O, but for the sake of it, I'll say mages.

[M-Taylor]

Voidlight wrote...

Virginian wrote...

Apostate is just another word for
runaway slave. In other words a frakkin wussy to scared to fight for
his/her freedom. Apostates get what they deserve. If you are an Apostate
and are not actively fighting the slavers Hawke has no sympathy for
you.

An apostate is someone who abandons his or her religion, not a runaway slave. In the Dragon Age world, an apostate is simply a mage who exists outside of the Circle. Merrill and Morrigan are apostates, but they are hardly runaway slaves because they were never part of the Circle to begin with. I have no sympathy for Templars killed by apostates in self-defence, just like I have no sympathy for an armed robber who gets shot by a homeowner.

And (mage) Hawke is classed as an Apostate by Developers.. so.. he's kinda shot himself in the foot with that argument. >.>

[AlexXIV]

M-Taylor wrote...

Voidlight wrote...

Virginian wrote...

Apostate is just another word for
runaway slave. In other words a frakkin wussy to scared to fight for
his/her freedom. Apostates get what they deserve. If you are an Apostate
and are not actively fighting the slavers Hawke has no sympathy for
you.

An apostate is someone who abandons his or her religion, not a runaway slave. In the Dragon Age world, an apostate is simply a mage who exists outside of the Circle. Merrill and Morrigan are apostates, but they are hardly runaway slaves because they were never part of the Circle to begin with. I have no sympathy for Templars killed by apostates in self-defence, just like I have no sympathy for an armed robber who gets shot by a homeowner.

And (mage) Hawke is classed as an Apostate by Developers.. so.. he's kinda shot himself in the foot with that argument. >.>

Apostate is a term the chantry uses for mages who are not under the rule of the circle. Which even includes dalish keepers etc.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 26 janvier 2011 - 07:02 .

[Kimarous]

If "benevolent / well-meaning / just want to be left alone" variety, mages.

If "human sacrificing / demon-ally / inherently hostile" variety, templars.

[shatteredstar56]

They both have their pros and cons. I tend to side with the mages more often then the templars, because I always love the underdog, and mages are taught from the beginning that their magic is a curse, and that they must pray for salvation. Efficient way of control, but why would they deserve to be born with a curse?

The templars believe they are doing what's right, but since they tend to disagree with any belief but their own, I would again side with the mages. There are exceptions to everything, but for the most part the mages have been downtrodden, and could rise up in bulk if they really desired to. And lest I forget, the apostates stay outside the Chantry's rule, and they seem to follow the rule, "Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone."

[JediHealerCosmin]

Gonna have to go with neutral. I believe that the conflict between the two factions is a distraction to the real threat: the qunari invasion. But we'll see  

Modifié par JediHealerCosmin, 26 janvier 2011 - 07:10 .

[XX-Pyro]

After playing Assassin's Creed I have trouble not killing every templar I see.

[atheelogos]

Burayan_Koga wrote...

The Mages, I'm gonna unite them and boot the Chantry out of Kirkwall.

This!! Mages all the way. No matter what class I'm playing I'll always side with them.

[FellowerOfOdin]

Templar.



Mages are too dangerous to be allowed to wander around without permanent control.



Someone said Jowan?

[Annihilator27]

Mages, I will be the one to bring the Templars down!!!

[Nyaore]

Depends entirely upon the circumstances involved and which side will bring about the greater good in this specific circumstance. If the Chantry is simply oppressing a group of mages who aren't harming anyone, then I would support the mages. On the other hand, if it's the mages who are actively attacking the non-magically inclined in order to force a confrontation with the Chantry, in other words resorting to terrorism upon the general populace to ignite a war with a specific faction, then chances are I'd side with the Chantry. It all depends upon the issues at hand and which side is being a bigger "jerk", so to say.
However if both sides are acting horrendously then I'll probably just flip both of them the bird and go on my merry way, with nary a care in the world.

[packardbell]

Nyaore wrote...

Depends entirely upon the circumstances involved and which side will bring about the greater good in this specific circumstance. If the Chantry is simply oppressing a group of mages who aren't harming anyone, then I would support the mages. On the other hand, if it's the mages who are actively attacking the non-magically inclined in order to force a confrontation with the Chantry, in other words resorting to terrorism upon the general populace to ignite a war with a specific faction, then chances are I'd side with the Chantry. It all depends upon the issues at hand and which side is being a bigger "jerk", so to say.
However if both sides are acting horrendously then I'll probably just flip both of them the bird and go on my merry way, with nary a care in the world.

Sounds ideal.

[Eclipse_9990]

Mages beat Templars by 49 votes... I am pleased.

[Cazlee]

neutral, unless they give me a reason to care

[BroBear Berbil]

My inclination for most of my characters is to err on the side of caution and side with the Chantry. Only exception was my Dalish (who I never could like) and my mage that romanced Morrigan -- my other mages were Aequitarians.

[Eclipse_9990]

OnionXI wrote...

My inclination for most of my characters is to err on the side of caution and side with the Chantry. Only exception was my Dalish (who I never could like) and my mage that romanced Morrigan -- my other mages were Aequitarians.

Psh.. Aequitarian's don't know how to take chances. Libertarian party ftw! *waves flag* 

[GodWood]

Mages need to be on a leesh.

Templars FTW

[Akizora]

Since my first playthrough is as a mage that is appaled by the Chantrys teachings and how the Templars enforce their laws on innocent mages across their controlled territories, I will oppose them and if possible - BRING THEM DOWN! Of course what may follow is that more and more weak mages become posessed by abominations and the Free Marshes becomes the Feared Marshes.

Modifié par Akizora, 27 janvier 2011 - 09:46 .

[snackrat]

I feel like any character I make will automatically ending up supporting mages - or at least sympathising - because if Hawke themselves isn't a mage, then their sister Bethany certainly is, and it seems heartless to condone the capturing and/or execution of self or sibling.

[SirGladiator]

It really does all depend on the circumstances. If there had been a question before DAO came out: "Who will you side with, Elves or Werewolves?" Id have said the werewolves, because they're cooler. But in practice, you'd kind've have to be crazy or evil to end up 'siding with the werewolves' and wiping out the elves, because the best choice is so obviously to get the elf dude to get rid of the curse, which sadly results in there being no more werewolves, but its the only right thing to do. So it is in DA2, while in theory I might have a personal preference to side with basic freedom for mages, and obviously I'll want to support Bethany whenever possible, I'm not going to make evil choices just to support some group or other I might happen to like. So my answer is, it all depends.