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xI extremist Ix wrote...

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This isnt like thermal clip hate were half the community hates that crap and the console tards love it, its something everyone cant stand.


Tell us how you really feel. But if half hate it and half don't hate how does it magically turn into something that 'everyone cant stand'?


Some people cant see the forest for the trees, maybe your brain farted when you read console ****** cus you got offended.

Reread my original post and the THING EVERYONE CANT STAND is helments, go through this thread and find one post that is in favor of non toggleable helments.

This is NOT LIKE thermal clips that has a divide on who likes waht extremist. So let me spell it out for you more slowly, the half people comment referst to the stances on thermal clips, the thing no one can stand is not being able to toggle helments..... how you missunderstood  that is a little beyond me as the qaulifier NOT LIKE ment the dislike for helments is unifide as opposed to split in the comunity LIKE the thermal clips debate......let me know if you got it that time, I will be here to explain it again if you need me to.

BTW, if you do infact have a console and are offended at the lable console ******, then I appologize; howerver if that is infact the case that you have a console and missunderstood my post it slightly reinforces my opinion that console users are offten tards.

Evil_Weasel will attempt to use more simple sentences and smaller words in the future, but will fail to most likely as he thinks complex things that must be expressed in complex ways with as many spelling errors as possible.

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I don't bother using helmets.The only type of head equipment I have is the Sentry Visor.

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Anyone who doesn't wear a helmet shouldn't complain about squadmates not covering up enough. If you're not going to armor your head, don't bother wearing any armor at all.


You know i say the same thing all the time, if your not going to were a full suit of breaching swat armor, why wear a bullet proof vest. Hell if your not going to wear gloves, why wear shoes.....

There is a bit of a difference between exposing cleavage in a gun fight and not wearing a helment, and I for one would love to run and gun in my recon hood, but would like to take it off in a more simple maner than running to my qaurters and fooling with my armor choices if im going to talk to people for the next 10 minutes, and a more simple way to put it back on before I go to a warehouse and get into a gun fight......

Simple choice; if I can get my guns out and shoot the place up, helment time, if not, no helment please tahts all I want and it seems like all the people in favor of a colapsable helment are as well. Seems like a toggle wouldnt be out of question since we had it in ME1.

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I use helmets, because despite all the reasons stated in this thread, it also ruins my suspension of disbelief to see Shepard run around bear-headed into combat; there's a reason why soldiers wear them.



Story-missions, those that are dialogue intensive, I tend to pick either the N7 helmet because it allows me to see the character's face (and the visor is small/clear), or the Dr. Pepper Sentry visor/ Umbra goggles, depending on whether I'm playing as an Infiltrator/Engineer or Vanguard/Sentinel (this is the time for me to say a deep "thank you" to the kind folks who gave me Dr.Pepper codes, because I don't live in the USA; stupid EA discriminatory marketing).



I'm fine with the DLC armors and the Recon Hood during the uncharted mission side-quests, or even less dialogue intense story-missions. However, I would have vastly preferred the Cerberus or the Collector armor, both of which are fantastic designs, if they could have been worn without a helmet on the hub worlds.



Still, I'd rather not see my character's face rather than the stupid breather masks most squad members wear in hazardous environments, vacuum, etc.


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Helmets are so 21st century.

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I never used my helmet. It would have been perfect if there had been a keystroke you could use to put the helmet on and take it off when you choose, but since that didn't happen, I didn't use it. I'd rather have my head uncovered in a fight then my ****.

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I always used a helmet unless I was playing an Infiltrator, in which case I worse the visor. Which I guess is still technically a head piece. 

Modifié par Veex, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:30 .


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I'd wear a helmet in combat if my squad buddies did!



Seriously, I love seeing Miranda in that outfit, but could she please wear something a little more protective for the missions...

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I wear my helmets into battle, but if I'm only going to Omega for a drink then I don't wear one. Besides, you can't really drink through a helmet.

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2kgnsiika wrote...

I'd wear a helmet in combat if my squad buddies did!

Seriously, I love seeing Miranda in that outfit, but could she please wear something a little more protective for the missions...


Indeed.  We wouldn't want that booty to get injured :D

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2kgnsiika wrote...

I'd wear a helmet in combat if my squad buddies did!

Seriously, I love seeing Miranda in that outfit, but could she please wear something a little more protective for the missions...


*bangs head to desk* IT'S A VIDEO GAME!!! this is not real world physics! why can none of you people tell the diffrence between reality and a VIDEO GAME!! UGH!

*cough* that said, not a fan of helmets, i put a good deal of effort in my shepards, i do not want their faces covered up >__> the visors are fine for the most part, if i know i'm going to require a space suit for a mission or i'm doing a hidden side mission, i'll wear a helmet or armored suit

why the DA no helmet during cut scene policy wasn't used here is beyond me, ME3 address this please?

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Nobody bothers with the helmets....

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Unless you like stuff like that happening all the time and people recognizing you through the dark vizors (X-Ray?).

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No I have no interst in Helmet sin in any of the Mass Effect games. It's very important to me that I get to see my characters faces when I play rpg's, it helps me care more about them.

Of course there are 2 sides to every story and even though I don't use Helmets myself I do get why it is mportant to some people that all squadmates wear armour on missions and have Helmets on while they are being shot at.

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click hide helm would be great to me. The full armor sets are very benificial but only one has a fairly visable face. And I use face imports 1 male 1 female. I use them to see my shep in a better graphical art.

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I loved the helmets for Mass Effect 2, although just the ones that completely covered Shepard's face. N7 Rebreather would've been perfect if the visor had simply been like the one from the Intro, same with Aegis if the mouth wasn't revealed and Inferno and Cerberus if the glass hadn't been ever so slightly see-through, although it does look godlike with the renegade eyes.. Anyway, I most definately do bother with helmets and love having them even for long dialogues.

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I like the Aegis the way it is actually. Reminds me of the blast helmet from Star Wars A New Hope when Luke is first training with a lightsaber.

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I sometimes will use helmets. Sometimes I'll go without any helmet to see my custom Shep, and others I'll put on a helmet (or wear one of the one-piece armors). It really depends on my mood. (Or if I just messed with my Shep's face at the start of the game. Then I never wear a helmet because i want to see what I just worked on creating.)

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I never use helmets. Im happy with the helmet that automatically comes on in hazardous environments (unlike with squadmates), but other than that my Shepards face is visible.

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Evil_Weasel wrote...
Some people cant see the forest for the trees, maybe your brain farted when you read console ****** cus you got offended.

Reread my original post and the THING EVERYONE CANT STAND is helments, go through this thread and find one post that is in favor of non toggleable helments.

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Ahem...so the people who disagree are nobodies? Wht are we, sub-human?

And point for stupidity for that console-tards comment. Assuming that everyone who loves the ammo system is a console players.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Evil_Weasel wrote...
Some people cant see the forest for the trees, maybe your brain farted when you read console ****** cus you got offended.

Reread my original post and the THING EVERYONE CANT STAND is helments, go through this thread and find one post that is in favor of non toggleable helments.

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Ahem...so the people who disagree are nobodies? Wht are we, sub-human?

And point for stupidity for that console-tards comment. Assuming that everyone who loves the ammo system is a console players.


I never called anyone sub-human, and its ok for people to disagree, and no not everyone who likes the ammo system is not a console player. See each segment of society has certin aspects of the human condition, for each group that self identifiys in some regaurd there will be many personality types; for example, for each 100 persons that identifiys as christian, there will be some who are still criminaly inclined, homosexual, and drug addicts. Same for smaller groups, at each high school you have a percentage of over achivers, jocks, preps, and goths and such.

For our Mass Effect comunity we have shooter fans, sci-fi fans, and at least some people who just absolutly love BioWare and will get their games for that reason, and those are ok. This group of self identifying Mass Effect players also has its percentages of homosexuals, jocks, goths, criminaly inclined, etc.

It also has PC players and Xbox players, and now we welcome PS3 players aswell. Further each group of self identifyed PC players has its criminals, over achivers, and of course tards. It would be of no suprise to me that a lage portion of the ammo system lovers and tards that are a part of the PC players overlap, but that would be just an opinion without a definitive study. Feel free to disagree.

Just as some high schools have disperpotionate amounts of preps, or criminaly inclined some of the systems have a disperportionate amount of tards, but that does not mean that their are no criminals in the prep dominated high school, or no over achivers in the criminaly inclined high school, just that their are fewer. While I know a few pepole with consoles at least some of them I would clasify as console tards and about 20% I would not.

See, people are totaly alowed to disagree with me, they do it all the time, and when they misunderstand me when my words were clear; that is when they get spoken to as though they were.....how did you put it.....sub-human.

So in conclusion, if it is your opinion that the ammo system is a golden gift from god that is fine I dont think so, but then it is my opinion that it is fail that was incorperated into the game to appeal to the lowest common denomonator, or in other words console tards. Now the first person to qout me compleatly missunderstood the meaning of my post, the second got offended for being lumped into a group that was considered "Less than" another, truth is that the average Xbox player is a 14 yearold racist, homophobic, punk with the mouth of a sailor and they wanted MOAR!! Gears of War with a better story and none of this silly over heating system, and they got it.

Now that were done with that and hopfuly if you disagree with anything Iv posted you can send your complaint over my opinion via private message, were I will read it and it will not take up space in this thread as an off topic discusion that is becoming very close to a flame war which will probably get the thread locked so if your offended by any of my coments, do as most people have to do when they see somthing that offends their religion on a forum; such as 666 or Satan as part of somones name GET OVER IT.

Now on to helmets.

I feel that the helments not showing Shepard's face wouldnt have been such a big deal, but for the first mission were you run into Tali, and she is like "Shepard, is that you," through your .... whatever helmet if your wearing one, and any other NPC who does somthing similar. Also if the camera didnt go straight to the face, maybe if you had a helmet if you got a wider shot instead, since the helmet is covering the face, focusing the camera there shouldnt be a priority anyway.

I for one just hope that we can get the toggle option for ME3, or an easier way to change out armor without haveing to go to the one changing room at least 2 loading screens out of the way; one to ride the elevator to your quarters, and one to ride it back down..... just give a toggle function is all I want.

Modifié par Evil_Weasel, 28 janvier 2011 - 06:47 .


#121
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Evil_Weasel wrote...

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:huh:

Cool story, bro. I'd say if something is not known with certainty, then why try to defend it? Let's just stay on topic and not go on that tangent.


At any rate, I don't mind the helmets as I've mentioned before. ^_^

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My my...someone has a VERY low opinion on console player.





Now personally I don't play consoles, but saying the ammo system is for "tards" is IMHO, wrong.

The overheat system is one for lazy people that don't care about tactics or realism.




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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

My my...someone has a VERY low opinion on console player.


Now personally I don't play consoles, but saying the ammo system is for "tards" is IMHO, wrong.
The overheat system is one for lazy people that don't care about tactics or realism.


Well, since your determind to bring up ammo again.

The ammo system is one for lazy people that don't care about tactics or realism.

Let me eloborate, firs the guns in this game are so unrealistic it is silly for you to even say that. First they are accelorator weapons, they use electricity to power electromagnets, and the guns are never recharged, the battires are for all intense purposes infinite in power, second the ammo system and that is what it is, even though they call it thermal clips is stupid in description. We dont have the technology to miniturize anything in those weapons so they are passed of as ....... wait, they arent even passed off as sci-fi future guns since they use a non existent element known as element zero which makes them even more UNREAL in their description, hey, wait, these guns are fantasy guns.....they dont even have to be remotly real....... lol, realism, I love when people make that argument for the way the guns work in ME2 when it is really just what they like more.

You have a video card in that PC you play on? Do you have a fan cooling it or do you eject your heat sink ever 8 hours of use and put a new one in? Do you ever cut partialy used video card heat sinks in half to reclaim the unused portion of the thermal clip....I mean heat sink? Becouse stuff never cooling off is realistic, right?

Second it is your opinion that a heat based system is for lazy people, but in fact isnt just  point and shoot till it goes click, reaload repeat way of playing the real way to be lazy. Oh, you mean you dont do that? Gee, what makes the heat system lazy and untactical? Becous, in ME1 I could chose to make a gun that did great damage, but overheated quickly, or a gun that would not overheat easily but did less damage, hmmm, sounds like a tactic to me. What tactic do you use with guns in ME2, short burst? well placed head shots? well timed reloads? I can do that stuff too with a heat system except well timed reloads which can be replaced with well timed cool down piriods. I admit that the heat system could have used a little bit of balancing but we just got copy-paste version of every other games ammo system as opposed to adjustment to a very tacticl system that needs more effort to use well, IMHO.

In ME1 we got something that in my opinon meant that we got a choice in how our weapons handled, now some people make this argument that you could just spam endless auto fire at enimies and that was too easy and that makes if for lazy people, but many people feel that ME2 is already easy. All you really have to do is go to cover, shoot a little, reload, shoot some more, reload, shoot some more, let your shields recover.......wait, arent these systems really similar except instead of reloading I could be letting my gun cool off?

No, they are not, becouse cooling off is diffrent, and people dont like diffrent stuff, they want regerating health, which isnt realistic BTW, and they want unused "ammo" which is actualy "unused thermal clip" to be shuffled back into the pool of shots they get, what would be realistic is if you eject a thermal clip with 10 shots remaining, then those 10 shots go on the ground and you dont get them back, but it seems that shuffling those back in is ....... lazy, for lazy people, who prefer a lazy system.

Now, as I mentiond feel free to disagree, but as I mentiond perhaps you could stick with just PM-ing me with your opinions, and thats all they are, and we can keep this thread about helmets, ok?

One final note, if your of the opinion that ammo is so realistic and great, good for you, I dont care. Even though I feel I have presented facts that show that heat system is not for lazy or untactical people, you (and others) dont care becouse you cant change opinions of people like probably 90% of the time, and even if you did, they wouldnt admit that you did at the very least not right there to your face that you did infact inform them that thier opinion was poorly thought out. Mentioning that somthing lacks tactics is an opinion, pointing out that you can change the statistics of a gun to suit your taste for high DPS but low sustaind fire, or high sustaind fire but low DPS is a fact. Even in the face of facts, this is the internet, and it is filled with tards that spew thir opinion with as much backing it up that opinion as .....well just that, an opinion.

So, back to helmets then?

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

My my...someone has a VERY low opinion on console player.

Now personally I don't play consoles, but saying the ammo system is for "tards" is IMHO, wrong.
The overheat system is one for lazy people that don't care about tactics or realism.

I find it a little bemusing as well. If you look at the FPS genre (which is much more shooting-focused than a TPS/RPG hybrid like ME2), the game that really propelled it into popular consciousness was Wolfenstein 3D. On the PC. With an ammo system.

I have played many, many shooters in the past 13 years I've been gaming on PC, and the vast majority of them used a traditional ammo system. Genre conventions are conventions for a reason.

I play ME2 on my 360, at any rate, but to suggest an ammo system is there as an appeal to casual console fans is disingenuous at best, when it's the most commonly accepted approach amongst dedicated, 'hardcore' PC shooter fans.

OT: I use a helmet at one point in the game only; when I need to headbutt a Krogan.

Modifié par Sentox6, 28 janvier 2011 - 08:02 .


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Pwner1323 wrote...

Nobody bothers with the helmets....

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Unless you like stuff like that happening all the time and people recognizing you through the dark vizors (X-Ray?).


LOL.