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[SumoMau]

Vetsedbasher wrote...

SumoMau wrote...

It seems a lot of people never worked in his life, when i see some strange (if not stupid) posts.

Stupid as in bad grammar and poor spelling?

stupid because of nonsense when i read posts where people accepts when Bioware does not give some information to the customers.  Customers can pretend informations. Maybe we cannot pretend to have some immediate solution, but for sure, they have to give informations.
I apologize for my bad english (and hope i have not written to many errors).

[ME_rulez]

well I used to work For Ubisoft as a customer Rep for about 3years and all the time we would get People Calling in and say the patch didnt't work for them on Certain games, and we was told the reason why people didn't see a diff in the games is because they needed to start a new game for the patch to work and that makes sence. ohh and by the way I've been Gaming since I was 8years old and now I'm 30 so I'm sure I know what I'm talking about,but you have the right to your own thoughts and the last statement on the message that I sent to you to see was a reply by Jesse houston.now I'm not saying I know everything because I don't But thats what I'm assuming since most patches do Require a restart of the game. and I'm not here to start a fight or make people mad about somthing as stupid as this I just wanna play ME2 like every1 els.

Modifié par ME_rulez, 02 février 2011 - 04:46 .

[SumoMau]

ME_rulez wrote...

most patches do Require a restart of the game. and I'm not here to start a fight or make people mad about somthing as stupid as this I just wanna play ME2 like every1 els.

that's right, most patch requires a restart to work well - but not all. I hope this will not.

[ssjmichael]

most patches do not require starting with a brand new game, I don't know where the hell you people are getting this stuff from. 90% of the games I play on my PS3 have received a patch at one time or another, in no way did any of them require me to start the game from scratch. You people have no idea what you're talking about.

[Sprockster]

Usually if you are required to start a new game because of a patch it is because the save files are now incompatible. In my experience this is uncommon in PC games and console games. Even then some game companies find ways to port the old saves or work around it.



A PC example is with Starcraft 2. If a patch renders the save incompatible it will load up the previous version till you are done with a mission then bump you back to the most current patch. Thats just one way to get around it.



I have patched numerous PS3 games and not been asked to restart from the beginning of the game to see the fixes.



Another albeit watered down example would be a game crashes every time a certain texture tries to load. Fix the texture and the crash goes away. Restarting would have no effect on this. The only way I could see having to restart Mass Effect 2 is if the bug that caused this issue was in the save file to begin with and they couldn't find away to fix it with out recreating the save.

[ME_rulez]

Yes Sprockster you are Correct it is very uncommon on most games,especially on Pc Games since they aren't exactly made the same way as Console games I did notice that updates work on old saved games on the pc but some times not the same way as the game made on consoles.Now For example look at New Vegas I clocked 20 hours and two save files and neither 1 was Corrupted but the patch didn't take any affect on my game play until I restarted a new game. then I seen the same difference with assassins creed and some other titles.But hey maybe with ME2 they can do it the way to where we don't need to start a new Game,I would hate to loose my 23+hours of game play on it.

Modifié par ME_rulez, 02 février 2011 - 06:25 .

[prazision]

Um, no, sorry, the New Vegas patches for PS3 didn't require you to start a new game. If they did, that was in the vast minority of players. I never heard about someone having to restart after the patch, in fact quite the opposite; most people were 20-30 hours into the game before the "big patch" even came out.

[Thiamath]

I can confirm that, i was like 20 hrs. in NV when the patch came out, and after download it resumed playing normally....

[SR3]

 

ME_rulez wrote...


most patches do Require a restart of the game. 

ME_rulez wrote...


Yes Sprockster you are Correct it is very uncommon on most games.  

So which is it?  Seriously, stop freaking everyone out for no reason.  I second ssjmichael, Srockster, and prazision: patches for PS3 games are frequent (and we're talking some fairly major patches here, like adding Move support), and I've never in my own experience had old save be incompatible with patched games.


I highly doubt that BioWare would break this trend by announcing, "Hey, we got that patch done we promised, the one that will prevent your data from fragmenting and your save files from getting eaten, there's only one catch - your save files will get eaten upon installing it."

[brianroyale]

I remember Bayonetta having a major patch but it took effect right after that was installed without having to start a whole new game. Who knows what will happen until it comes out, as of right now it's pure speculation.

[Skyline19]

I've personally never come across a patch that requires you to restart the game from scratch. If that was the case I'd imagine that game would be severly broken in the first place.

[Nitek_pl]

Skyline19 wrote...

I've personally never come across a patch that requires you to restart the game from scratch. If that was the case I'd imagine that game would be severly broken in the first place.

you've never played Faloout 2 or you haven't patched it?

[CREAMallDAY]

This absolutely ridiculous.

[CitizenThom]

My experience, playing games not coding them, is that save related patches allow you to load an old format save to start up the game, but every future save generated by the game is created in the new format. I can't think of any game with a save related issue, that once it was patched, didn't allow you to load from a previous save format.

[Nitek_pl]

CitizenThom wrote...

My experience, playing games not coding them, is that save related patches allow you to load an old format save to start up the game, but every future save generated by the game is created in the new format. I can't think of any game with a save related issue, that once it was patched, didn't allow you to load from a previous save format.

like I said - Fallout 2. never played huh?

[LiLAsN]

SumoMau wrote...

ME_rulez wrote...

most patches do Require a restart of the game. and I'm not here to start a fight or make people mad about somthing as stupid as this I just wanna play ME2 like every1 els.

that's right, most patch requires a restart to work well - but not all. I hope this will not.

Nitek_pl wrote...

like I said - Fallout 2. never played huh?

I'm sorry. Are you guys lost? I believe they mean there have never been ANY PS3 Games that will make your Game Saves useless after the game has been patched. Capisce? If you want to know of a game which has been patched with HUGE files so many times over that I practically spend more than an hour chatting with my friends while waiting, try buying the original Little Big Planet. Heck. 1 of the updates actually made a new Game Save where your player profile is stored. But after the massive amount of updates, you still have your game saves intact. If you guys are referring to PC, sorry to say that you guys are in the wrong section of this forum. 

But in case your theory is 'Plausible', then the patch will never get past Sony's Quality Testing for approval. Duh... you think Sony wants to have a bad reputation of making PS3 player's Game Saves useless? Haha! 

Modifié par LiLAsN, 03 février 2011 - 01:44 .

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Chris Prestley, Jack Lamden, and Jesse Houston are all here and posting, just not on this exact forum. Totally not ignoring us and sweeping this lil problem under the rug, eh?

[ME_rulez]

Lol People I'm not trying to anger any of you I'm just telling you what I have seen But Like I said before I don't know everything I could be wrong about having to restart a game for the game to work with a patch.But No really Guy's with New Vegas My game didn't work with the patch until I restarted a new game and then I was trouble free for the most part anyway..Gosh Da##it All I wanna do is play mass effect2 okay....ohh and Sony quality testing LOL what a joke I'm not sure if some of you remember a few patches back when the ps3 firmware update made Uncharted1 and Dragon age unplayable due to Bad coding, don't get me wrong I love Sony But they mad a few Bad updates..

Modifié par ME_rulez, 03 février 2011 - 03:08 .

[The_Crazy_Hand]

New Vegas =/= ME2



Even so, it's little to do with patch updates. As far as just wanting to play ME2 already, I completely agree. Chris, Jack, Jesse, yall are here, spend at least SOME time addressing our technical issues. Say, 30 minutes to an hour per day, 2-3 days per week, is that unreasonable?



Is a patch update unreasonable?

[smallpox champion]

it's funny how some of the post here are making it seem like there is some kind of conspiracy going on at bioware around this patch that may or may not have been sent in to sony.

[ME_rulez]

Yeah I already beat Mass effect and mass effect 2 on Xbox360 and there where some bad issues on that version also But I wanted the PS3 Version more because you don't have to swap disc's twice and plus all the dlc is on 1 disc and they are using the Mass effect 3 Graphics Engine on the PS3 version which I must Say Looks amazing by the way, So Since they are using the new Graphics engine I thought there would be some Technical Issues but all in all The game has the best story,characters,and the coolest Console ever the PS3.

Modifié par ME_rulez, 03 février 2011 - 06:06 .

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Conspiracy? Not necessarily, but something is very wrong here.

[Garodar]

Judging from the content and grammar of ME_rulez' posts, I believe him to be a Troll.

[FellOpenIan]

The patch is stuck in the wholly inept console content certification process.



Microsoft and Sony generally aren't looking for these types of bugs and they most certainly aren't finding these types of bugs. They are, however, slowing down the content push process to a crawl and extorting developers and publishers for the questionable 'hosting' of said content.



Steamworks for PS3 can't come fast enough.

[Back2basics]

Wish I had known about this earlier I would have made multiple save files. My game just crashed about 22 hours in during the shadow broker dlc. To have to start again is like a slap in the face, hopefully something can be done to fix the save file.