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GJR84 wrote...

Lets face it, Bioware is currently developing Dragon Age II. They dont have the time or men to fix this any time soon. Plus, at first it seemed to be like one or maybe two bugs, but the more beta test...mmm...I mean...gamers...got to play the game, more and more bugs have been reported.


Bioware has multiple development teams, each dedicated to specific games — i.e, the Dragon Age franchise, the Mass Effect franchise and so on. It's not just one development team doing everything.

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im playin it again when the problem is fixed

Modifié par celestialbeing, 08 février 2011 - 02:30 .


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My game keeps on freezing during a cut scene on the Shadow Broker mission. No matter how many times I re-loaded my game, it always freezes in the same spot. It's annoying, and I can't complete the mission. I don't understand. I played through the Shadow Broker mission on another save just fine. :/

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Espada_Andy_2 wrote...

Guys just buy the PC version and exchange the ps3 one for another game

Really dude thats your solution? C-Mon man we are'nt all PC gamers like you aparantly are and that would'nt even cross our minds.

buy it on PC he says.....
:lol: hahaha

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meirelle wrote...

My game keeps on freezing during a cut scene on the Shadow Broker mission. No matter how many times I re-loaded my game, it always freezes in the same spot. It's annoying, and I can't complete the mission. I don't understand. I played through the Shadow Broker mission on another save just fine. :/

yeh shadow broker mission is a notorious part of the game for freezing. i freeze up right before the chase scene when we get in the car. many of us are just staying away from that mission for time being (i dont thinks its of vital importance to the story anyway).

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Fandango9641 wrote...

Cmpuwiz03 wrote...

celestialbeing wrote...

ppl got the right to complain,they just wasted $60 dollars on a defective game


The game is not defective. For a game to be defective it would have to not work whatsoever. If your PS3 can load the game and get to the main menu then it's not broken. If you can start playing a game it's not broken. it's that simple.

Patches take time and must go through Q&A testing before they're released. 


Good grief Cmpuwiz03 , let’s not hide behind semantics; the game is unfit for purpose so can reasonably be called 'defective' by those who’ve lost significant hours to a corrupted save (or three). As for the Q&A process taking time, I agree and find myself wondering just how those in charge of testing the bug-ridden nightmare that is ME2, PS3 got things so horribly, horribly wrong!


Save games going corrupt doesn't constitute the game being "Defective".  It's a bug that slipped through the cracks and you can workaround it as stated earlier.  Game developers especially those that deal with code have it rough.  You can fix one thing and break another element of the game by accident.  For this game to be completely defective you have to see very severe problems and I mean severe. 

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Cmpuwiz03 wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Cmpuwiz03 wrote...

celestialbeing wrote...

ppl got the right to complain,they just wasted $60 dollars on a defective game


The game is not defective. For a game to be defective it would have to not work whatsoever. If your PS3 can load the game and get to the main menu then it's not broken. If you can start playing a game it's not broken. it's that simple.

Patches take time and must go through Q&A testing before they're released. 


Good grief Cmpuwiz03 , let’s not hide behind semantics; the game is unfit for purpose so can reasonably be called 'defective' by those who’ve lost significant hours to a corrupted save (or three). As for the Q&A process taking time, I agree and find myself wondering just how those in charge of testing the bug-ridden nightmare that is ME2, PS3 got things so horribly, horribly wrong!


Save games going corrupt doesn't constitute the game being "Defective".  It's a bug that slipped through the cracks and you can workaround it as stated earlier.  Game developers especially those that deal with code have it rough.  You can fix one thing and break another element of the game by accident.  For this game to be completely defective you have to see very severe problems and I mean severe. 






You are describing a game that is unplayable. Defective is different from unplayable.

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I've been playing for 2 hour bursts for around a couple playthroughs. No additional save corruption problems so far. Got Insanity and everything. Just missing the Warp Specialist trophy



I suggest people stop complaining and use the work around (it works) until the patch gets released. It's not a huge deal

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Can someone please post the work around? I've gone through 24 pages and not found it.

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I got ahold of EA Tech they told me to delete all files associated with ME2. I told them to suck off i have 50 hours in this game if they want me to delete my files they can pay me for the time i spent as their guinea pig tester....

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 People who are defending Bioware on this really need to get a life. STOP TRYING TO SOUND SMART. bioware has obviously messed up on this one. And stop talking about how coding video games is super complicated and how all games have bugs. Do you have any idea how  much money EA makes off of titles like this?? Games like this go through months of beta testing. EA/Bioware obviously hasn't spend much money on the PS3 release of ME2 and yet we all paid $60 for it. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR A BUG LIKE THIS

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DeeLite808 wrote...

Can someone please post the work around? I've gone through 24 pages and not found it.

The first post of the first page.

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Played it for 50 hours. Autosave off. EA online off. Saves backed up to USB.



3 or 4 freezes

0 corrupt save game files

1 rainbow colour bug

1 or 2 occasions with lagging cutscene sound

Overlord graphical glitches

2 stuck characters after using vanguard charge.

1 time stuck on scenery



That's my experience. Yes it has some bugs, but it's not unplayable.

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I don't know if anyone has thought of this, as the search function in this forum is a bit strange.

My best guess is it may be a Hard-Drive Fragmentation issue.

I have never had my game crash on me, and i have a reasonably new machine with a 4 month old 500gb Hard-drive. As files on most PS3's and older machines new and old are commonly placed in the next free space, or over a deleted file, files that are replaced and added are kept all over the place when it is fragmented, the drive needs to access many places at once. Even on a normal computer this makes the machine slow and sometime crash.

Imagine you are just entering the cut-scene for the Shadow Broker Mission and it is automatically saving your file at the same time. The stream would be running from one part of your hard-drive and saving to another part. This may not seem like much. But it can be enough to freeze the machine.

This is the only reason i can see why it does not crash on one persons machine and does on another. Perhaps people could put how old their PS3's are, New drives, Download or Disc.

Mine is PS3, 500GB HD (4 Months Old), Disc Format (8Gig Install) - Never frozen

I know i will be flamed for being a complete idiot or whatever, but hey. Anyone else got any interesting theories.... :blush:

Modifié par Hairy-Love-Spuds, 08 février 2011 - 10:33 .


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bigearn1 wrote...

Espada_Andy_2 wrote...

Guys just buy the PC version and exchange the ps3 one for another game

Really dude thats your solution? C-Mon man we are'nt all PC gamers like you aparantly are and that would'nt even cross our minds.

buy it on PC he says.....
:lol: hahaha

Considering that the PC version is a superior experience and considering also that you won't need a high-end rig to play it, then yes it's a prety good solution!
Unfortunately as others said, using the Cerebrus code makes your ps3 version worthless thus not enabling you to trade it.
Last but not least you dont need an IT certificate to play a game on PC
It is fairly easy unless you have some kind of retardation
You amusement on facts intrigues me...

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Espada_Andy_2 wrote...

bigearn1 wrote...

Espada_Andy_2 wrote...

Guys just buy the PC version and exchange the ps3 one for another game

Really dude thats your solution? C-Mon man we are'nt all PC gamers like you aparantly are and that would'nt even cross our minds.

buy it on PC he says.....
:lol: hahaha

Considering that the PC version is a superior experience and considering also that you won't need a high-end rig to play it, then yes it's a prety good solution!
Unfortunately as others said, using the Cerebrus code makes your ps3 version worthless thus not enabling you to trade it.
Last but not least you dont need an IT certificate to play a game on PC
It is fairly easy unless you have some kind of retardation
You amusement on facts intrigues me...


You really think people are going to go out and spend £700+ on a mid range pc to play one game slighly better than it is on PS3? You serious?

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Espada_Andy_2 wrote...

Unfortunately as others said, using the Cerebrus code makes your ps3 version worthless thus not enabling you to trade it.

No, not really. This simply means that the one you traded with has to buy the Cerberus Pack from PSN.

Modifié par Agozer, 08 février 2011 - 11:52 .


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Why is it always a software developers fault. (Although most if the time it is!!!!!!!)



Yes they can test a game. But can they test it on every single version of PS3 ever made, Completing the game every time and using every tone of dialogue for every machine, every variance in a game, every size hard-drive. Every resolution of screen, Offline, Online, Upload speed, Download Speed. Firewalls. Etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on



Games are so big now that it is nearly impossible to test for every single thing that could or could not go wrong.



While i do agree that this freezing, is affecting some players, the majority of players are not having a problem. Of which i am one. First they have to find out why this is happening, then find a fix that does not affect anymore people. Not as easy as it seems



Is anyone old enough to remember the good old days of loading up a Commodore C64 tape. If it didn't load. You didn't say the software company messed it up. You got your little screwdriver out and turned the screw for the head on the cassette player. Making the game read the cassette better. (A cassette for those too young, is a small plastic case with magnetic brown tape inside!!!!!!!).



Just feel glad that nowadays if you have an issue with a game, your game does not get recalled and a fix is arranged and normally works just fine. I would rather have this option, where games are made better on the fly, and glitches are ironed out via a forum where it can all be discussed.

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Quill74Pen wrote...

GJR84 wrote...

Lets face it, Bioware is currently developing Dragon Age II. They dont have the time or men to fix this any time soon. Plus, at first it seemed to be like one or maybe two bugs, but the more beta test...mmm...I mean...gamers...got to play the game, more and more bugs have been reported.


Bioware has multiple development teams, each dedicated to specific games — i.e, the Dragon Age franchise, the Mass Effect franchise and so on. It's not just one development team doing everything.

Quill74Pen



Right. So when a team ends a game they just get a 4 years vacation with salary untill reasigned to another game development. No, dude. They are just employees and they do whatever the hell the boss tells them to. When they finished Mass Effect 2 they where put to Dragon Age II, just like any other resource the company has.

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wow the commodore 64 and cassettes. man i feel old right now.

1.writing code and programing games is hard if it wasn't we'd all be doing it.

2. no matter how much playtesting you do bugs will still get through even ugly ones like this one.



I'm not defending or blaming anyone but sometimes bugs like these don't show up till the game is out in the wild where more people can get their hands on it and put more time into it then any playtest team ever could. I'm more glad that bioware acknowledged the problem and actively worked on a solution.



cheers

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GJR84 wrote...

Quill74Pen wrote...

GJR84 wrote...

Lets face it, Bioware is currently developing Dragon Age II. They dont have the time or men to fix this any time soon. Plus, at first it seemed to be like one or maybe two bugs, but the more beta test...mmm...I mean...gamers...got to play the game, more and more bugs have been reported.


Bioware has multiple development teams, each dedicated to specific games — i.e, the Dragon Age franchise, the Mass Effect franchise and so on. It's not just one development team doing everything.

Quill74Pen



Right. So when a team ends a game they just get a 4 years vacation with salary untill reasigned to another game development. No, dude. They are just employees and they do whatever the hell the boss tells them to. When they finished Mass Effect 2 they where put to Dragon Age II, just like any other resource the company has.


I doubt it dude, the Mass Effect team are in Montreal and the Dragon Age team in Edmonton.

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Try deleting the GAME DATA in the GAME DATA UTILITY and try after that cause that worked for me. (note theres no need to delete save data or DLC/UPDATE data)

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I 'm about 15 hrs. into the game, and so far haven't experienced the most glitches cited in the past posts, only glitch experienced its the audio out of sync in combat scenes, i know that its too early to say that the game is bug free, but i think that by this time i should have experienced at least one freeze or more bugs, but nothing, playing in 3hrs bursts just to be sure, autosave off and disconnected frrom EA servers, also dont't visit too many locations in one run...;)



Also waiting for the patch to come soon, but those things cant be rushed, i wonder Bioware wants to make sure the patch really works, i don't want to imagine this treads if they release a broken patch.... :P

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terrordactyl1 wrote...

GJR84 wrote...

Quill74Pen wrote...

GJR84 wrote...

Lets face it, Bioware is currently developing Dragon Age II. They dont have the time or men to fix this any time soon. Plus, at first it seemed to be like one or maybe two bugs, but the more beta test...mmm...I mean...gamers...got to play the game, more and more bugs have been reported.


Bioware has multiple development teams, each dedicated to specific games — i.e, the Dragon Age franchise, the Mass Effect franchise and so on. It's not just one development team doing everything.

Quill74Pen


Right. So when a team ends a game they just get a 4 years vacation with salary untill reasigned to another game development. No, dude. They are just employees and they do whatever the hell the boss tells them to. When they finished Mass Effect 2 they where put to Dragon Age II, just like any other resource the company has.


I doubt it dude, the Mass Effect team are in Montreal and the Dragon Age team in Edmonton.

I think they are working on Mass Effect 3.

But, more to the point, there is some truth there. Most people on the team are working in Mass Effect 3, and they will work on patching a released game only if EA is willing to pay them to do it...

However, there are some things that support the idea that they didn't just throw away Mass Effect 2 and shifted focus on the new game, at least completely:
- Comments in the thread that indicate some people are testing and still working in Mass Effect 2.
- Announcement of future DLC for Mass Effect 2 before 3 is released, which means at least some people are still working on ME 2 assets.

Of course, I am with all the people here that just want to play the damn game without having to worry about losing saves or reaching a stalemate in the story progression. I also wish the patch was available since last week, or at least to have an update on the status (seriously, how hard can it be to submit a message "patch is done, sent to Sony for certification... no idea when its going online"?).

However, that doesn't mean we have any reason to believe Bioware just dropped support and don't give a damn about its customers, or that the patch will NEVER come out. All we can do at this point is wait...

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Yeah but communicating something about the status of the patch will be a great thing. It has been announce a long time ago as "available and ready" in a couple of days and still nothing.



They can at least say that the patch has been submitted to Sony, to tranquilize people a little bit, but NO.



It's because they still didn't submitted any patch to Sony. What a great disappointment from Bioware.