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[Vaenier]

You forget that there are actually multiple relays to dark space. Yay retcons.

[Scimal]

^how is that a retcon?



I doubt anybody has counted the number of relays in Dark Space.



Personally, I just doubt that they'd fly to Earth. It's too inefficient. Yeah, they COULD... But it's spending a few years to build a new Mass Relay or two as opposed to wasting countless tonnes of fuel.



I get the impression that efficiency takes priority over a few measly years when your life-span is in the possible billions.

[didymos1120]

Vaenier wrote...

You forget that there are actually multiple relays to dark space. Yay retcons.

You forget that the PS3 comic has yet to be declared canon.

[Dean_the_Young]

didymos1120 wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

You forget that there are actually multiple relays to dark space. Yay retcons.

You forget that the PS3 comic has yet to be declared canon.

And that the comic usage refers to the Mass Relay network as a whole, and not specifically the Citadel Relay.

[Dean_the_Young]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Vigil was lying.

Or maybe Vigil was simply wrong.

Semantics.

Sure. But it's incredibly important semantics. Sort of how like the difference between you raping someone and me having earth-shattering, consensual sex is semantics, even though both involve penetration.

A lie is a deliberate untruth. Being wrong, especially when already admitting speculation, is not.

[slxiii]

the reapers obviously have a mass relay in dark space somewhere, otherwise how could they jump from dark space to the citadel in the first place? The reapers could even BE mass relays as far as we know.

[Roxanna Barrett]

I may not quote this exactly, but i digress:

"...we are beyond your comprehension" The tactics of a billion year old race, may truly be beyond it. Sure its a game, but if it follows its own words.. then we may never know.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Gabey5 wrote...

without the relays they can still jump.. remember they built them, or they could build a new relay from scratch

 

The Reapers being able to make jumps *without* relays would be the equivalent of pretending that the events of ME1 never happened. Because if the Reapers are able to make jumps without relays, they don't need anyone to activate Citadel. The whole plot of ME1 was that Sovereign and Saren were trying to gain access to the Citadel to open the relay to dark space, and allow the Reaper fleet to make the jump. If the Reapers are retconned to make them able to jump through space without relays, it makes Saren, Sovereign, and everything Shepard did in ME1 pointless.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 29 janvier 2011 - 05:05 .

[lazysol]

didymos1120 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

As we understand standard(non-relay) FTL travel, modern ships can be assumed to be capable of traveling at least 100x the speed of light(note that this is a guesstimate and we do not have any actual numbers to work with, AFAIK).

In ME1, Ash comments about going home to visit her sister, a journey of 12 light years. She calls that "a day's cruise".  So, 12 ly/day =  1.31396228 × 10^12 m / s = ~4383 c.

FTL travel in mass effect doesn't work that way. Its not X times the speed of light. FTL travel works the same as real space travel. You accelerate halfway, then decelerate the rest of the way. Its really X times your real space acceleration.

Assuming 12ly takes 24 hours to travel, the normandy accelerates at around 60,000 kps^2. It would pass the speed of light after 5 seconds. 100x the speed of light would take a little over 8 minutes.  Max speed on this trip would be about 8800c at the mid point. Lets say the normandy's engines are capable of a reasonable 3g's of thrust, the mass effect would be lightening it by a factor of 2 million.

And without knowing how long a reaper can go without discharging its mass effect core, and not knowing how far away they are, AND assuming they can accelerate as fast as the normandy (probably alot faster)...

Well lets say they can go indefinetly at the same rate of acceleration, and they are 50,000ly away, it would take them about 65 days to get to earth. Even if they were 100,000ly away it would take 91 days.
If they were 6 MILLION light years away they could get there in the 2 years that shepard was dead.

How and when they get there can all be easily explained. Its just a matter of when they got the message to wake up and go.