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[InHarmsWay]

I'm playing as a Sentinel with Warp ammo.

I have access to them all but I'm still not sure. I'm leaning towards the Geth assault rifle due to its ability to stripe shields and barriers. Thoughts?

[PrinceLionheart]

The Mattock.

[Sparrow44]

Mattock, hands down. Without Firepower pack then I'd say Vindicator.

[InHarmsWay]

Thanks.

[Yakko77]

Mattock rips through armor pretty well plus with Warp ammo you can take care of barriers.



That and it just has this ultra satisfying sound when fired.

[Schneidend]

Revenant, Vindicator. Mattock is pretty overpowered, so I avoid using it.

[CroGamer002]

Mattock since it's overpowered.

Otherwise all Assault Rifles are balanced.



Avenger has plenty of ammo, high fire rate, medium range, medium accuracy, medium damage

Vindicator has little ammo, 3 burst fire rate, long range, high accuracy, high damage

GPR has a lot of ammo, medium fire rate, long range, high accuracy, low damage

Collector Assault Rifle has plenty of ammo, low fire rate, long range( do to fire rate best for medium range), high accuracy, high damage

Revenant has a lot of ammo, medium fire rate, long range, medium accuracy( do to high recoil you should burst fire), very high damage

[CroGamer002]

^When I'm firing that gun it feels slower then GPR and Avenger and not much faster then Collector AR to me.

[JaegerBane]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Huh!?
Revenant having only medium rate of fire? You'r kidding right, you have to be kidding!

Technically, he's right - the Rev's 700rpm rate of fire is pretty middle of the range. It only beats the Collector Rifle and the Locust for rate of fire.... well behind things like the Tempest, Particle Beam, Avenger etc.

Revenant has lots of ammo, high rate of fire, short to medium range, medium accuracy (on close range: blast away / an medium range: Fire button tapping (aka burst fire, though continued) gives you good accuracy / long range: forget it) and very high damage.

To be honest, the Revenant isn't that great at damage - it's real talent is that it can sustain that damage for a time. Outside of this it isn't that much better than the Shuriken. I kid you not - look at the numbers.

[Schneidend]

And depending on what you're fighting, consistent damage is going to be a lot more useful than burst damage. Husk swarms and oncoming krogan, for instance.

[McBeath]

Schneidend wrote...

And depending on what you're fighting, consistent damage is going to be a lot more useful than burst damage. Husk swarms and oncoming krogan, for instance.

Agreed.  My soldier often uses the Mattock even when I get the Rev, unless I'm doing a mission where I know I'll be charged alot by Varren, Husks, ect... at which point they will close to medium/short range and you can just hold the trigger and rain some shots into them(very satisfying).  I use the Rev where I'd normally use a shotgun

[nuclearpengu1nn]

I prefer the Geth Assault Rifle better because of its accuracy, fire rate and ammo capacity



the revenant rifle is good if you want to Spray and Pray most of the time, it doesn't have good accuracy, but a good fire rate and ammo capacity

[Fixers0]

Vindicator, Mattock is too primitive.

[NYG1991]

I stick w mattock or avenger. For some reason I miss more w vindicator

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Mesina2 wrote...

Mattock since it's overpowered.
Otherwise all Assault Rifles are balanced.

Avenger has plenty of ammo, high fire rate, medium range, medium accuracy, medium damage
Vindicator has little ammo, 3 burst fire rate, long range, high accuracy, high damage
GPR has a lot of ammo, medium fire rate, long range, high accuracy, low damage
Collector Assault Rifle has plenty of ammo, low fire rate, long range( do to fire rate best for medium range), high accuracy, high damage
Revenant has a lot of ammo, medium fire rate, long range, medium accuracy( do to high recoil you should burst fire), very high damage

Just to add about the Revenant, but it seems to me that the bigger the target is, the more effective the Revie is against it. It's GREAT against boss/mini-boss type enemies.

That said, OP's gotta cheat to get it his char. and the Mattock still beats the Revie at what it does best.

[Schneidend]

How embarrassing. I didn't even read the OP and realize he was playing Sentinel.

Use the Vindicator if you're a good enough marksman for headshots.

Otherwise, the Avenger is your best friend.

Avoid the Mattock. It's a cool looking weapon with a good feel to it that is completely ruined by how overpowered it is.

Modifié par Schneidend, 28 janvier 2011 - 05:42 .

[Yakko77]

Mattock is overpowered at veteran and below but for hardcore and certainly for insanity it can be a good friend IMO. Once you get all the upgrades and the cross hair is essentially pinpoint accurate, it's for all practical purposes a semiautomatic sniper rifle in a way.

[Schneidend]

At which point it basically makes the Viper obsolete for all but the most extreme ranges. It has greater DPS than the Revenant, gets an ungodly amount of heat per clip picked up, and unlike the Viper it gets a melee range damage multiplier.

[meh_cd]

I tried to use the Vindicator, I really did, but I just can't use an assault rifle that doesn't have that OOMPH to it.

[kstarler]

I just want to throw out my own opinion, which may differ from Shneidend's and others.

I don't really think the Mattock is overpowered for non-Soldiers. Is it better than the other AR options? Clearly it is. However, without Adrenaline Rush, I think it is fairly well balanced by the small magazine size/spare ammo count. What it does for me is give options as far as heavy pistol and sub machine gun are concerned, so I'm not forced into the Carnifex/Locust combo every time I play a caster class. Instead, I can bring the Tempest for Shields/Barriers and up close encounters or where sustained fire is needed (I'm looking at you, Praetorians!), and the Phalanx for long distance sniping or if I'm low on ammo. Plus, as an example, it essentially lets me play an SR Adept without the scoped powers, which is a plus.

With that said, I think that the GPS is far more overpowered for an Assault Armor Sentinel than the Mattock is.

Modifié par kstarler, 28 janvier 2011 - 07:08 .

[JaegerBane]

Schneidend wrote...

How embarrassing. I didn't even read the OP and realize he was playing Sentinel.

Use the Vindicator if you're a good enough marksman for headshots.

Otherwise, the Avenger is your best friend.

Avoid the Mattock. It's a cool looking weapon with a good feel to it that is completely ruined by how overpowered it is.

To be fair, to all intents and purposes the Avenger is pretty underpowered. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for virtually any character. It's DPS is inferior to the Locust (even with a higher fire rate) and it's accuracy leaves a bit to be desired at longer ranges. I can't imagine many situations where it's a better choice than the Vindy.

[SupidSeep]

When an Assault Rifle (Avenger) is made obsolete by a Sub-Machine Gun (Locust), you know it is underpowered. The CAR and GPR are harely better. IMO, all of they need something like a 50% damage boost - give the Vindicator and Mattock 50% more ammo instead.

[Skyline19]

On my first insanity playthrough I used the mattock until the revanant, but after reading this thread I'm leaning more towards the mattock and the widow rifle. Whats the better combination, mattock and widow? Or Revanant and incisor?

[Locutus_of_BORG]

^As a soldier, I think it's somewhat widely accepted that from a tactical standpoint, the Mattock/Widow combo is the most powerful, even with the relative handicap vs. shields.

For a Sentinel, in purely objective terms, the Mattock is the best AR, as layered protections are a non-issue for that class. Sentinels only need to consider raw firepower when it comes to their weapons, as that's the only real weakness to that class.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 28 janvier 2011 - 05:16 .