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[Erode_The_Soul]

KLUME777 wrote...


Since this thread is about PS3, he
should be talking about PS3 controls as well. It doesn't help if Seb is
reasuring the PS3 crowd that it wont be "some port" if he refers to Xbox
controls. Sounds like he doesn't know what hes talking about when it comes to PS3.

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

Now you're just being silly. I imagine the man figured we would be able to figure out what the equivalent of "A button" was for the PS3.  And I'm willing to bet damn near everyone in this thread knew exactly what he was talking about.

[KLUME777]

wishiewashie wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have dragon age on the PS3, and you definitely do not speak for me. Sounding like a dick and acting all self entitled is only going to give us a bad name

^^ this. The games are pretty equal, the only things differing is just the controls really and maybe a few glitches. Maybe the PC versions are superior. But alot of you are making other console owners look bad with the constant nagging.

PC version is superior. Console versions are equal. The Op is just complaining because he thinks graphics are the only good thing in a game. He should be thankful Bioware put some effort into DAO PS3 to make it equal, unlike some other game companies (im looking at you, Bethesda). 

Modifié par KLUME777, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:02 .

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Well, it's good to know the President Of The Playstation 3 Community Worldwide has finally made a statement, I'm sure Bioware employees must be shaking in their chairs right now.

Or, to put it another way, stop complaining like a little ****.

Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:05 .

[Mad-Max90]

Dude, I feel you but the thing is people spend alot to upgrade their computers so in a way it makes sense to upgrade their graphics to pc to keep up, this coming from a guy who strictly uses xbox, I really don't feel left out though

[PsychoBlonde]

I find the intent of this thread amusing, considering how many PC gamers apparently feel it's their right to complain that Origins wasn't up to snuff on the PC because it was "obviously a console port".

I have yet to encounter any game (ANY game) that didn't generate exactly these sorts of complaints.  It doesn't have the most perfect up-to-date graphics.  It runs slow on my 8-year-old machine that I refuse to upgrade.   It's too hard.  It's too easy.  It didn't deliver to me the perfect entertainment experience I expected.

I remember the days when I would have to completely re-write all the .bat and .ini files for my operating system to get a new game to run--and even then something would not work properly (usually the sound) because of some bizarre and arcane hardware conflict.

Nowadays, I can buy games for my computer, throw them in th DVD tray, and they RUN.  It is AMAZING.  And most of them are actually FUN, and provide engaging entertainment for many times the duration that the same money spent on movies or books would have gotten me--especially if I get them off the cheap shelves.  I got Diablo off the cheap shelves and I think I logged like 200 hours in that game--for $20.  And I know my dad logged more time than I did.  Assuming 2 hours is a reasonable length of time for a movie, I would have spent about $1250 on tickets ALONE at the theater.

People expect to get so much for the price of a pair of pants.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:11 .

[JJDrakken]

The Masked Rog wrote...

I recently replayed DA:O on the PS3. Having played it on the PC before on thing became evident: the PS3  is nothing more than a sloppy port with badly adapted controls. Worse, while the PC graphics are simple and not very advanced, and thus a PS3's hardware is more than capable of rendering them, the graphics look WORSE on the console. This is just outrageous. If you can't adapt a game to the platform you are delivering it on, you can't call yourselves true developers. I don't know why but the consoles always get the shaft when compared to PCs. Development happens on the PC, then it is badly ported to consoles. Well, I don't think your fanbase is willing to have that anymore. DA2 is shaping just to be like DA:O, PC getting better graphics (DX11), a different camera, etc...

I urge BioWare to reconsider, unless you want to see the PS3 sales plummeting. The PS3 players have been the developer's sheeple for too long. We demand that this abominable practice of porting everything badly from the PC to PS3 be stopped, and games actually be developed with PS3 in mind.

To PC gamers, please do not flame this thread. Just try to imagine how you'd feel if you always got sloppy ports instead of same plaftform development you always get. Support our cause if you find it in your hearts.

Well arn't you just a self entitled anon of the internet.


JJ

[Mihura]

wishiewashie wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have dragon age on the PS3, and you definitely do not speak for me. Sounding like a dick and acting all self entitled is only going to give us a bad name

^^ this. The games are pretty equal, the only things differing is just the controls really and maybe a few glitches. Maybe the PC versions are superior. But alot of you are making other console owners look bad with the constant nagging.

Although is speech is a bit harsh, the OP is right about the port of DA:O, when you compare the two there is a great difference believe me and not just a few glitches, thing like late DLC and just.

I cannot judge DA 2 yet but in my opinion it will probably be quite good on consoles, one of the main complain from some people that play on the PC, is that the game is going to be dumb down because of the consoles, I do not think this way but it seem that bioware is working on both platforms and not just on the PC.

Modifié par Mihura, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:14 .

[kartupelis]

Edit: POst removed. No flaming or name calling here.

<_< ok, but this guy has no idea what he is ranting about.

Modifié par kartupelis, 27 janvier 2011 - 07:32 .

[Seb Hanlon]

hhh89 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

(trimmed quotes)

He didn't say "improvement for PS3", he said "improvement for console". Most of the people know that in DAO the A and the X have the same function, so I don't see the problem.

Since this thread is about PS3, he should be talking about PS3 controls as well. It doesn't help if Seb is reasuring the PS3 crowd that it wont be "some port" if he refers to Xbox controls. Sounds like he doesn't know what hes talking about when it comes to PS3.

Not that i agree with OP. PS3 version (DAO) is same on par with xbox, i dont think it has any problems, OP is graphics wh0re.

I believe that Seb wasn't referring only to xbox control, but to the console control. He simply wrote the wrong button. When I bought the Xbox, when I talked about the controller I said X and not A, because I played on PS2 for a lot of years, and I am used to the dualshock. Now when I play on PS3 I said A instead of X.

Yeah. I wrote that this morning before my coffee -- I have an Xbox and a PS3 on my desk, and I've been playing on the Xbox most recently. A little sloppy in the context of a thread talking about PS3, but now I've had my coffee and I promise not to mix them up again today.

Modifié par Seb Hanlon, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:38 .

[00_Gundam]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

DA2 has been developed in parallel on all three platforms. Nobody's getting a "sloppy port".

Specific improvements for the console, from the gameplay team ('cause that's what I know):
- Press-A-to-attack makes it easier to retarget on the fly. Console autotargeting target selection logic has been improved. Auto-attack is still available if you prefer.
- Radial menu has better, more consistent behavior for issuing multiple orders.
- Radial move-to-point command added. No more driving characters into position while the rest of your team gets shot at or beaten on.

That's off the top of my head. Many improvements aren't specific to the console UI but improve console gameplay nonetheless.

Are you gonna make the ps3 version move compatible?
what about the xbox 360 is it going to be kinect compatible?
Will you release patches to make them compatible with both move and kinect?

[TJPags]

00_Gundam wrote...

Seb Hanlon wrote...

DA2 has been developed in parallel on all three platforms. Nobody's getting a "sloppy port".

Specific improvements for the console, from the gameplay team ('cause that's what I know):
- Press-A-to-attack makes it easier to retarget on the fly. Console autotargeting target selection logic has been improved. Auto-attack is still available if you prefer.
- Radial menu has better, more consistent behavior for issuing multiple orders.
- Radial move-to-point command added. No more driving characters into position while the rest of your team gets shot at or beaten on.

That's off the top of my head. Many improvements aren't specific to the console UI but improve console gameplay nonetheless.

Are you gonna make the ps3 version move compatible?
what about the xbox 360 is it going to be kinect compatible?
Will you release patches to make them compatible with both move and kinect?

I'm petty sure they've said no kinect or move.

Whether they may patch it later to be compatible, I don't know.

[AnimaTempli101]

One thing buddy:



Shut up. You do not speak for the entire PS3 market. 'We' is therefore the right pronoun.



That is all.

[Follow Me on Twitter]

Oh shi- it just got real.

I can see it in the news now.

"Crazed man breaks into game studio armed with a cardboard sword and tin foil armor. Apparently the man was able to make it into the offices where a 5 hour stand off took place between the man and the employees it abruptly came to an end when the mans mother showed up and told him it was time for dinner. No charges are being filed by Bioware as they are simply glad no one was given a papercut."

Modifié par Follow Me on Twitter, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:56 .

[Seb Hanlon]

TJPags wrote...

00_Gundam wrote...

Seb Hanlon wrote...

DA2 has been developed in parallel on all three platforms. Nobody's getting a "sloppy port".

Specific improvements for the console, from the gameplay team ('cause that's what I know):
- Press-A-to-attack makes it easier to retarget on the fly. Console autotargeting target selection logic has been improved. Auto-attack is still available if you prefer.
- Radial menu has better, more consistent behavior for issuing multiple orders.
- Radial move-to-point command added. No more driving characters into position while the rest of your team gets shot at or beaten on.

That's off the top of my head. Many improvements aren't specific to the console UI but improve console gameplay nonetheless.

Are you gonna make the ps3 version move compatible?
what about the xbox 360 is it going to be kinect compatible?
Will you release patches to make them compatible with both move and kinect?

I'm petty sure they've said no kinect or move.

Whether they may patch it later to be compatible, I don't know.

That's correct. While we're always investigating new technologies for ways we can make our games better, we've made no announcements of Kinect or Move support for DA2 at this time.

[AlexXIV]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

(trimmed quotes)

He didn't say "improvement for PS3", he said "improvement for console". Most of the people know that in DAO the A and the X have the same function, so I don't see the problem.

Since this thread is about PS3, he should be talking about PS3 controls as well. It doesn't help if Seb is reasuring the PS3 crowd that it wont be "some port" if he refers to Xbox controls. Sounds like he doesn't know what hes talking about when it comes to PS3.

Not that i agree with OP. PS3 version (DAO) is same on par with xbox, i dont think it has any problems, OP is graphics wh0re.

I believe that Seb wasn't referring only to xbox control, but to the console control. He simply wrote the wrong button. When I bought the Xbox, when I talked about the controller I said X and not A, because I played on PS2 for a lot of years, and I am used to the dualshock. Now when I play on PS3 I said A instead of X.

Yeah. I wrote that this morning before my coffee -- I have an Xbox and a PS3 on my desk, and I've been playing on the Xbox most recently. A little sloppy in the context of a thread talking about PS3, but now I've had my coffee and I promise not to mix them up again today.

Well that's what you get for developing for the console. As a PC player elitist I say screw the consoles, make games exclusively for PC

[Apollo Starflare]

So now we are getting 'DA2 is a shoddy port to consoles' threads, does this mean the 'DA2 is a shoddy port to PC's' threads will go away? Or will the two take each other on in an epic showdown full of flames, trolls and misconceptions?

[AlexXIV]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

So now we are getting 'DA2 is a shoddy port to consoles' threads, does this mean the 'DA2 is a shoddy port to PC's' threads will go away? Or will the two take each other on in an epic showdown full of flames, trolls and misconceptions?

The usual. That's the one with the flames, trolls and misconceptions.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:15 .

[Lord Gremlin]

Yrkoon wrote...

The Masked Rog wrote...

Anarya wrote...

While I empathize with your objection to the quality of Origins' PS3 port, I think your outrage is a little mistimed. It's either too late if you're going by Origins, or premature, considering DA2 has made a point of making the experience more even across all platforms. We'll have to wait and see how it shapes up, but I'm not sure what your post accomplishes, exactly, other than to vent.

I am still to see exactly what improvements have been made specifically to consoles. most apply to everything.

  Specifically to consoles?  wait... if the improvements are applied  across all platforms then you have nothing to b*tch about.  Unless your primary gripe is that the PS3 version isn't getting the special and exclusive treatment you think it deserves, in which case, this is nothing more than  a  run of the mill elitist tripe on your part.

Well, in recent years it became kinda appropriate to expect exclusive content on PS3 (unless it's timed exclusive, in which case it should be on 360).
It's just what trend is. That said, Bioware are always special.

[JigPig]

The ironic thing about the OP's post being is that the PC gets more horribly ported console games than any other 2 system combined.



The effects of a PC to console port are a lot less felt than vice versa.

[Haristo]

you want to play USRPG on consoles ?!? Buy you a Xbox 360. the game look the same with PC version and maybe better (never tried Ultra graphics on PC version). it also don't have any ''save'' problems or ''freeze'' effects. the PS3 is a Japanese thing for Japanese stuff, not for BioWare games.



and please, do never says that the PS3 can make better graphics than a PC. I remember Crysis 1, and I'm vomiting watching Crysis 2.

[Lord Gremlin]

Haristo wrote...

you want to play USRPG on consoles ?!? Buy you a Xbox 360. the game look the same with PC version and maybe better (never tried Ultra graphics on PC version). it also don't have any ''save'' problems or ''freeze'' effects. the PS3 is a Japanese thing for Japanese stuff, not for BioWare games.

and please, do never says that the PS3 can make better graphics than a PC. I remember Crysis 1, and I'm vomiting watching Crysis 2.

Hm. Actually DAO on 360 looks even worse on PS3. I mean, it's not really good on PS3 already, and on 360 it gets even worse with low-res textures and missing animations in some scenes.

Which is all completely unrelated to consoles themselves, as both have games with much better graphics than DAO on PC on max settings. This however doesn't mean that consoles are more powerful. That means that DAO has bad graphics in general and bad console ports in particular.

[Haristo]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Hm. Actually DAO on 360 looks even worse on PS3. I mean, it's not really good on PS3 already, and on 360 it gets even worse with low-res textures and missing animations in some scenes.

never happened here. the game has the same graphics than on PC on the same screen. I've compared with some shots, and it is really the same. Of course the shots can be wrong...

and well... I don't very care of graphics, I want to play a game, not to watch a game...

[Ailith Tycane]

lol, "a warning to Bioware"...

What would you do anyway? Not buy one of their games? Oh noes.

The sense of superiority and entitlement in your first post is irritating at best. As I say to everyone who complains about a part of the game in a way that is snobbish and most of the time downright untrue (as the PS3 version was not a sloppy port), either buy the game or don't, it's that simple.

[The Masked Rog]

It's sad to see how people will so easily troll somebody just because they want the game to be top notch on their platform. I have nothing more to say other than due to the poster's behaviour this thread should be locked. Shame on you.

[Sanguinerin]

@The Masked Rog, it's also sad that you're going to comment on the behavior of other people in this thread. Your title and first response are demanding and misleading, what did you honestly expect?

1) You do not speak for the entire PS3 community and therefore can only accurately write, "I won't have your sloppy PS3 ports anymore."

2) You're not going to get anything by logging on and making demands of BioWare. If you have a legitimate concern, then there's a much better way to express that than demanding, making threats, etc. You're much more likely to receive positive responses if you begin on a constructive and positive note from the beginning.

3) As has been stated, the PC and console versions are being developed along side each other.

Modifié par HallowedWarden, 27 janvier 2011 - 07:41 .