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[Melca36]

As a PC user, your warning is amusing considering all the games I've purchased that were cheap console ports that were barely playable.

[Guitar-Hero]

I think people should relax, DAO was a relativly bad port, and from what iv'e seen they are fixing that, if you are still not convinced at this point i doubt anything will, i do however recent the fact that you assume to speak on ps3 users behalf, as a ps3 user myself i am quite happy with what i have heard/seen, while it was badly ported last time, i think the new game is both dynamic and viceral, and i love the fact that they are playing to the consoles strengthes.

[Kail Ashton]

CardonT wrote...

That's actually Sony's fault for implementing an "I'm too good for this world so I have to get special programming!" graphics chip.

As a PS3 owner (and ps1 ps2) i 100% agree with that, Sony of Japan screwed over PS3, certinly not Bioware, at least Sony of America took charge & did some impressive damage control some 2 years later

[B3taMaxxx]

Seb Hanlon wrote...
Yeah. I wrote that this morning before my coffee -- I have an Xbox and a PS3 on my desk, and I've been playing on the Xbox most recently. A little sloppy in the context of a thread talking about PS3, but now I've had my coffee and I promise not to mix them up again today.

 So you have to purchase a new PS3 controller to play DA 2?

 EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't my Jack Daniels flavored coffee yet

[Ailith Tycane]

The Masked Rog wrote...

It's sad to see how people will so easily troll somebody just because they want the game to be top notch on their platform. I have nothing more to say other than due to the poster's behaviour this thread should be locked. Shame on you.

Speak for yourself.

[HTTP 404]

this is old news OP. When they made DA2 they kept consoles in mind. In fact I test played it on xbox 360 and Mike Laidlaw presented DA2 on consoles for that very reason.



Thanks but no thanks for that warning.

[Silver Dreamer]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

(trimmed quotes)

He didn't say "improvement for PS3", he said "improvement for console". Most of the people know that in DAO the A and the X have the same function, so I don't see the problem.

Since this thread is about PS3, he should be talking about PS3 controls as well. It doesn't help if Seb is reasuring the PS3 crowd that it wont be "some port" if he refers to Xbox controls. Sounds like he doesn't know what hes talking about when it comes to PS3.

Not that i agree with OP. PS3 version (DAO) is same on par with xbox, i dont think it has any problems, OP is graphics wh0re.

I believe that Seb wasn't referring only to xbox control, but to the console control. He simply wrote the wrong button. When I bought the Xbox, when I talked about the controller I said X and not A, because I played on PS2 for a lot of years, and I am used to the dualshock. Now when I play on PS3 I said A instead of X.

Yeah. I wrote that this morning before my coffee -- I have an Xbox and a PS3 on my desk, and I've been playing on the Xbox most recently. A little sloppy in the context of a thread talking about PS3, but now I've had my coffee and I promise not to mix them up again today.

If it makes you feel any better, I stil refer to the Xbox's left/right bumpers/triggers as L1, L2, R1, R2. And I still call the buttons triangle circle square X. I don't have a PS3, but I all but lived on my PS2. Some things just won't change. Especially when the control layout is virtually the same (same analogs, just an *improved* shift in placement, in my opinion).

I do have issues with the 360 version (like having Dog die and then lean diagonally to talk to me on the road to Lothering...), but I was always under the impression that it was always the console users who complained about the elite PCs getting everything better (Heck, I'm of the same thought myself for a number of games). You mean to tell me that PC users complain about getting the short end of the stick?? PC users really DON'T have everything better!?

I do believe my world has turned inside out.

[Beaner28]

Console gamers are physically and mentally inferior to PC gamers.

[HTTP 404]

Beaner28 wrote...

Console gamers are physically and mentally inferior to PC gamers.

I noticed when I switched over from being a PC gamer to a console gamer.  I have hard time grasping simple fractions now.

[Altima Darkspells]

Doesn't the PS3 port for ME2 have a save-deleting bug?

[The Masked Rog]

It was never my intention to sound abrasive or demanding but to showcase a problem: the increasing number of badly executed PS3 ports. If the PC also has bad ports, I am also sorry for them. This isn't a war between PCs and consoles. I think it is only fair that some console specific changes are made, just as PC specific changes are made. I am fully aware of the impossibility of DX11 in consoles. But since BioWare had dedicated that time to bring DX11 to PCs (which I am not complaining about) they should also present some kind of graphical improvement using the console's hardware. And yes, it is possible. Many games have better graphics in PS3 than DA:O. I dare say that the PS3 is fully capable of running graphics of the same quality of max out DA:O on PC (bar AA) if it is properly optimized. BioWare should get us that optimization.

[Nighteye2]

The Masked Rog wrote...
I recently replayed DA:O on the PS3. Having played it on the PC before on thing became evident: the PS3  is nothing more than a sloppy port with badly adapted controls. Worse, while the PC graphics are simple and not very advanced, and thus a PS3's hardware is more than capable of rendering them, the graphics look WORSE on the console. This is just outrageous. If you can't adapt a game to the platform you are delivering it on, you can't call yourselves true developers. I don't know why but the consoles always get the shaft when compared to PCs. Development happens on the PC, then it is badly ported to consoles. Well, I don't think your fanbase is willing to have that anymore. DA2 is shaping just to be like DA:O, PC getting better graphics (DX11), a different camera, etc...

I urge BioWare to reconsider, unless you want to see the PS3 sales plummeting. The PS3 players have been the developer's sheeple for too long. We demand that this abominable practice of porting everything badly from the PC to PS3 be stopped, and games actually be developed with PS3 in mind.

To PC gamers, please do not flame this thread. Just try to imagine how you'd feel if you always got sloppy ports instead of same plaftform development you always get. Support our cause if you find it in your hearts.

Are you suggesting they make the PC version worse, just because the PC can do things (like DX11) that the PS3 cannot?

[The Masked Rog]

Nighteye2 wrote...

The Masked Rog wrote...
I recently replayed DA:O on the PS3. Having played it on the PC before on thing became evident: the PS3  is nothing more than a sloppy port with badly adapted controls. Worse, while the PC graphics are simple and not very advanced, and thus a PS3's hardware is more than capable of rendering them, the graphics look WORSE on the console. This is just outrageous. If you can't adapt a game to the platform you are delivering it on, you can't call yourselves true developers. I don't know why but the consoles always get the shaft when compared to PCs. Development happens on the PC, then it is badly ported to consoles. Well, I don't think your fanbase is willing to have that anymore. DA2 is shaping just to be like DA:O, PC getting better graphics (DX11), a different camera, etc...

I urge BioWare to reconsider, unless you want to see the PS3 sales plummeting. The PS3 players have been the developer's sheeple for too long. We demand that this abominable practice of porting everything badly from the PC to PS3 be stopped, and games actually be developed with PS3 in mind.

To PC gamers, please do not flame this thread. Just try to imagine how you'd feel if you always got sloppy ports instead of same plaftform development you always get. Support our cause if you find it in your hearts.

Are you suggesting they make the PC version worse, just because the PC can do things (like DX11) that the PS3 cannot?

No. I'm suggesting they make the PS3 version better. Proper optimization would go a long way. Read above post. :happy:

[HTTP 404]

haha wanting a better console version does not equal I want PC versions to be worse. Or vice versa.



its almost impossible to have an unbias conversation when you put the words PC and Console in the same sentence.

[Cobrawar]

go buy a pc and stop playing ****ttyy consoles, cheap bastards

[The Masked Rog]

Cobrawar wrote...

go buy a pc and stop playing ****ttyy consoles, cheap bastards

Reported.

[Icinix]

The Masked Rog wrote...
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To PC gamers, please do not flame this thread. Just try to imagine how you'd feel if you always got sloppy ports instead of same plaftform development you always get. Support our cause if you find it in your hearts.

Yeah, because it's totally not like PC users ever get really **** ports from the consoles or anything, or don't get games series completed / continued or anything (Halo I'm looking at you).

That said, todays day and age there are three major players that game companies have to develop for. It must be very hard as a developer these days to create an equal game on such variable hardware with such variable control methods and for the most part, companies generally get it pretty right.

With THAT said I'm still not sure what the issue is here,  if games are developed with DX11 etc to take advantage of new technologies and hardware - this is a good thing. Holding them back on one platform for the development of others seems a little weak of an argument and NOT good for the development of games as a whole.

[The Masked Rog]

With THAT said I'm still not sure what the issue is here, if games are developed with DX11 etc to take advantage of new technologies and hardware - this is a good thing. Holding them back on one platform for the development of others seems a little weak of an argument and NOT good for the development of games as a whole.

Sure, I'm all for DX11 as that is a platform specific improvement which plays for a platform's strengths( PC in this case)



I would like to see them also improving things specifically in the PS3, not stopping improving things in the PC.

[Haristo]

Beaner28 wrote...

Console gamers are physically and mentally inferior to PC gamers.

you proved that was Wrong actually. + Reported...

[Black_Warden]

The Masked Rog wrote...

With THAT said I'm still not sure what the issue is here, if games are developed with DX11 etc to take advantage of new technologies and hardware - this is a good thing. Holding them back on one platform for the development of others seems a little weak of an argument and NOT good for the development of games as a whole.

Sure, I'm all for DX11 as that is a platform specific improvement which plays for a platform's strengths( PC in this case)

I would like to see them also improving things specifically in the PS3, not stopping improving things in the PC.

at least you've switched to sayin "I" rather than "we"

anyway, I, as a console player, would like to see bioware stick with their better-than-some-worse-than-others graphics and continue to focus their energy and money on making some of the best stories in the video game market. if you want a game with top of the line optimized console graphics, look elsewhere my friend.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Here I was going to waltz on in here and compare the old days when we would get crappy ports to from Arcade to PC/Genesis and SNES but this room has already gotten retarded



oh thats not politically correct

[Seb Hanlon]

Allow me to remind everyone that insults and personal attacks are against the site rules, and console vs. PC arguments are off topic for the DA2 forum.

[The Masked Rog]

Black_Warden wrote...

The Masked Rog wrote...

With THAT said I'm still not sure what the issue is here, if games are developed with DX11 etc to take advantage of new technologies and hardware - this is a good thing. Holding them back on one platform for the development of others seems a little weak of an argument and NOT good for the development of games as a whole.

Sure, I'm all for DX11 as that is a platform specific improvement which plays for a platform's strengths( PC in this case)

I would like to see them also improving things specifically in the PS3, not stopping improving things in the PC.

at least you've switched to sayin "I" rather than "we"

anyway, I, as a console player, would like to see bioware stick with their better-than-some-worse-than-others graphics and continue to focus their energy and money on making some of the best stories in the video game market. if you want a game with top of the line optimized console graphics, look elsewhere my friend.

I didn't say top of the line and I'm not talking only about graphics but also framerates as well as controls and gameplay adjustments.

But guess people will grasp at straws just to critizice, wathever. Can we have this thing locked now, since people would rather stereotype everyone ("graphics ****", etc...) without reading what I write. I AM NOT TALKING ONLY ABOUT GRAPHICS BUT EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME.

[coolide]

I doubt they're that concerned about the 15 people who own PS3s. Hey oh!

[Haristo]

coolide wrote...

I doubt they're that concerned about the 15 people who own PS3s. Hey oh!

Exactly. I own one and I don't play ANY BioWare games in it. they have too much problems and issues... Saves problems, freezes, crappy engine ports because of crappy hardware (powerfull, but Crappy).

we should just let this thread die..