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[Ozzyfan223]

in ME1 I first started out with a male Shepard. Beat it twice and thought, "nice". I decided to play as a female Shepard and loved it. I love Jennifer Hale so much from her previous titles and this made me love her more.

when I first played ME2 I clearly started with a femshep. I beat it twice with her, loved it. But I decided to play as a maleshep and ever since I haven't been able to play as femshep. I just feel detached from the character, and I consider the default Shepard a male Shepard.

it doesn't make much sense to me. Has this happened to anyone else? Even vice-versa, and any ideas to what can make me go back?

[Bogsnot1]

You could always take some inspiration from Jack Nicholson.





*runs and hides*

[xXSnak3Eat3rXx]

It was the exact opposite for me. I beat both games as a maleshep originally and just recently, I played as a Renegade femshep and fell in love with her - I now consider her my canon.

default Shepard a male Shepard

Technically, the default IS a male Shepard but if you're trying to say that the canon is male Shepard, you're wrong. There was already a discussion about this in another thread (http://social.biowar...index/5819224/1). The character that YOU create is canon, end of story; there is no "default" canon, if that makes any sense.

Modifié par xXSnak3Eat3rXx, 27 janvier 2011 - 02:39 .

[marshalleck]

Hasn't happened to me. Maybe try to conceive of your Shepard as his or her own person or identity, distinct from your own. Getting too close to a character that is too unlike yourself can hinder role-playing as that character.

[killerpie53]

 I did not play maleshep, however, I'll always consider the default Shepard a female because her appearance(The way I made it of course), in my opinion, fits perfectly to both Jennifer Hale's voice and the game's plot-She is a good looking tough yet charming, Paragon character.My point is that you should focus a lot on designing the visual appearance of your female Shepard so it fits best to the game's aspects.

[james1976]

The voice for FemShep as a Renegade is just priceless. I didn't find the Male voice to be that good for Renegade, seemed like it was better suited for Paragon. But both voices of course were great. Especially if you weren't doing once extreme or the other.

[Joram Talid]

i can't stand the voice acting of the female shepard. i just don't like her tone. i've only done one playthru with her, and never again.

[Rune-Chan]

Personally Shepard always feels like he should be a male character for me. I also have difficulty playing as a FemShep.



The reason I find this odd is because in most other RPG's I tend to play as female characters. In Dragon Age and Fallout I have only ever played as male characters once, and all my others have been females.



There is just something about ME that I think fits better as a male Shepard. Possibly because I like Tali as a LI the most.

[wishiewashie]

Joram Talid wrote...

i can't stand the voice acting of the female shepard. i just don't like her tone. i've only done one playthru with her, and never again.

You're the first person I seen who does not like Jennifer Hales acting. 

I personally liked it since she could move from a soft tone to a threatening tone in a short instance whereas Mark Meer is very one-tone. Now if maleShep had a more convincing voice I would probably play him more.

[Emyer]

Ozzyfan223 wrote...

in ME1 I first started out with a male Shepard. Beat it twice and thought, "nice". I decided to play as a female Shepard and loved it. I love Jennifer Hale so much from her previous titles and this made me love her more.

when I first played ME2 I clearly started with a femshep. I beat it twice with her, loved it. But I decided to play as a maleshep and ever since I haven't been able to play as femshep. I just feel detached from the character, and I consider the default Shepard a male Shepard.

it doesn't make much sense to me. Has this happened to anyone else? Even vice-versa, and any ideas to what can make me go back?

I have a similar problem but with the voices, I can't stand to see Meer's voice come out of anything but Sheploo already mentioned this in the FFL thread, seeing Meer's voice come out of customShep faces makes the character feel detached and "off", while not the same problem I can understand that sense of feeling "detached" from a character and not even being able to play with it.

[rma2110]

I think a disconnect is natural for the guys because they are not used to playing a female character. Female gamers on the other hand are very used to it. I've been playing male characters from Mario on my NES to Jack Marsden on my 360. You get used to it

[JKoopman]

I prefer FemShep for no other reason than because Hale's voice acting is more believable and natural in more situations. Conversations tend to flow better with FemShep, whereas Meer often uses the wrong emphasis or inflection on the wrong words and his lines sound disjointed.



Hard to say whether it's a fault of Meer or a fault of whoever is directing him.

[epeeist]

I'm trying to write this carefully, both from a PC (politically correct, not personal computer) and non-spoiler way. However, I'm also writing it fairly quickly from a thought I just had...

First, generally, if the player character is scripted as female, that's fine with me. However, when a game allows as much character customization as ME1 or ME2 does, I usually prefer to roleplay a heroic, smarter, stronger, better-looking version of my real-world self - which means a male. I make an exception if there are significant gameplay or story advantages to e.g. being a dwarf or elf in a fantasy game or something - some of the older Dungeons and Dragons computer games had advantages to being a female drow/dark elf instead of a male, for instance. I also make an exception when there's significant voice acting of the player character as in ME1 and ME2, to experience the "full story" I replay eventually with a femshep.

Interestingly, I found that renegade options in ME1 by the femshep seemed less "evil" from how the dialogue sounded but only nasty, and so my only renegade ME1 playthrough was with a femshep. So that's an example of a female player character, in my view, improving the story (if, like me, one dislikes roleplaying evil).

Second, and somewhat related to my first point, if a game with such a large degree of customization has an optional romance, I am not interested in a romance with a male character even if the player character is female. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that ME1 allowed the option of a femshep to have a romance with a female, but ME2 does not. Thus when I play ME2 with a femshep I'm not interested in pursuing romantic dialogue and so may not have as "full" a gaming/story experience as when playing a male character pursuing romantic dialogue options with female NPCs (EDIT: pre-LOTSB, at least).

Modifié par epeeist, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:36 .

[Hathur]

I struggle to play anything other than femshep and a custom femshep with a very specific appearance. To me, Shepard is this woman I've seen since Me1, imported to ME2... with the same face and same morals (overwhelmingly paragon, but occassional renegade choices that don't involve cold blooded murder of defenseless foes or civilians, or xenonophobic behavior).



Anytime I deviate from that Shepard.. be it male, female with a different face... or too many renegade actions, it no longer seems like Shepard to me... feels like some weird imposter... I struggle to play to the end as male shep.. not because I have a problem with the voice, but simply because it is not the Shep I've come to know.



I guess I (and many others) get very attached to our Shepard being a specific way / look & gender... deviation from that makes us uncomfortable.

[Ozzyfan223]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Personally Shepard always feels like he should be a male character for me. I also have difficulty playing as a FemShep.

The reason I find this odd is because in most other RPG's I tend to play as female characters. In Dragon Age and Fallout I have only ever played as male characters once, and all my others have been females.

There is just something about ME that I think fits better as a male Shepard. Possibly because I like Tali as a LI the most.

this is exactly how I feel. In every other RPG I play, where I can choose the gender, I choose female. But in ME2 I just can't take femshep seriously as canon. Which is a stark opposite of what I felt in the first game.

I'll be playing as a femHawke by the way. Her voice is just awesome.

[Gemini1179]

started playing ME1 as a FemShep, and ever since, playing as MaleShep simply doesn't feel right, but I like to have multiple characters of each gender to keep my options open.

[Hathur]

epeeist wrote...

First, generally, if the player character is scripted as female, that's fine with me. However, when a game allows as much character customization as ME1 or ME2 does, I usually prefer to roleplay a heroic, smarter, stronger, better-looking version of my real-world self - which means a male. .

That's interesting, for me I don't try to put or see myself as Shepard... my shep is not a digital representation of me or who I want to be... rather, I see Shepard more as the main character in a novel... except in this case, I get to choose what type of person this lead character is going to be... I can determine the type of hero she will be and determine to a degree what her personality is.... not because I want to be her or be like her, but because it's the type of character I find to be fascinating, inspiring and interesting.

When I choose a romance for my Shepard, I don't choose one based on what I personally find attractive (I'm a male, heterosexual), but I think to myself sort of like a writer or movie director would "What type of person would this lead character find desirable or attractive?" I then make the decision based off that, rather than my own personal preferences in the real world.

I've never actually been able to see or make myself feel like wanting to be the protagonist in a game... they are not a virtual representation of me or who I wish to be... I know most people do this, but I don't quite get it or how they set their mind that way... 

I'm a regular human.. I'm boring and dull like 99% of all other humans... I don't want a virtual imitation of me... instead, I want to help forge or guide a character I can look up to and admire as a good person, a hero, a trusted friend who will inspire others.... just like I do when I read a great novel with a strong protagonist... in novels I don't see myself as the protagonist, rather I am an observer.. I treat my RPGs the same way... except now I'm an observer and also somewhat the writer / director of this character's specific traits and qualities.

Modifié par Hathur, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:01 .

[james1976]

The only thing I can't do as FemShep is the romances. It's just too awkward for me. I don't mind playing female characters in general. It tends to present more roleplaying options.

[wolfsite]

wishiewashie wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

i can't stand the voice acting of the female shepard. i just don't like her tone. i've only done one playthru with her, and never again.

You're the first person I seen who does not like Jennifer Hales acting. 

I personally liked it since she could move from a soft tone to a threatening tone in a short instance whereas Mark Meer is very one-tone. Now if maleShep had a more convincing voice I would probably play him more.

Jennifer Hale IS Shepard.

[Sphynx118]

Joram Talid wrote...

i can't stand the voice acting of the female shepard. i just don't like her tone. i've only done one playthru with her, and never again.

This.  Voice acting ruined it for me

[Pwner1323]

The Mass Effect saga is highly directed for Shepard to be male. Nothing racist, it's just how I see it.



I don't have anything against tough women (I love WET), I just see Shepard only as *my* custom male Shepard.



Sorry gals...

[mineralica]

Three factors for me:

1) voice actor. I'm rather emotional person, so femShep is okay with her level of emotions while maleShep sometimes sounds wooden (Tali's romantic scene, anyone? "Come here")

2) LIs. It's not about "omg how can I romance women when I'm also woman?", it's about their personality - if Zevran would be female, my canon Warden would be male.

3) stereotype which I'm going to laugh about. Female elf mage so every NPC has to say something about char. Hot stereotypical blonde saving galaxy.

[stonbw1]

Really, the interesting question is whether you've switched your initial M/F character. For me, I'm seriously considering making the plunge on ME3 to start with FemShep as I started both ME1/2 with traditional MaleShep. I hate to say it, but her voice acting in ME2 was emotionally superior, in my opinion, and she's really grown on me. Geez, I only have 11 months to decide . . .

[Lumikki]

Ability play female or male character has nothing to do with game. It's more a real life players personality thing. Hard to explain, but sertain people are very flexiable about they gender in games, while some others seem to be more connected to only one gender. This gender is often same as they real life gender. Meaning they feel like there is something wrong when they play "wrong" gender. I think most people are more connected sertain gender, even if they can play both genders. It's really hard to find person who's gender attitude is balanced so well that they don't care at all what gender they play.

Modifié par Lumikki, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:38 .

[UKStory135]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

You could always take some inspiration from Jack Nicholson.


*runs and hides*

I was thinking that.