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[JKoopman]

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."



Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

[Strugz]

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Cool story bro.

[marshalleck]

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Gotta agree with this. FemShep is a strong female character. Ellen Ripley in Alien is the mother of all strong female characters in science fiction. Lara Croft etc., not so much.  

[JrayM16]

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Gotta say I've never seen anyone point to Bayonetta or Dead or Alive as examples of them being alright with playing female characters.  Maybe Tomb Raider a bit.

[JKoopman]

JrayM16 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Gotta say I've never seen anyone point to Bayonetta or Dead or Alive as examples of them being alright with playing female characters.  Maybe Tomb Raider a bit.

Meh. WET was mentioned and earlier in the thread someone had defended not liking FemShep by saying they have no problem playing female characters in fighting games. Bayonetta is a bit on the ridiculous side, but it serves to get the point across.

Modifié par JKoopman, 27 janvier 2011 - 07:04 .

[JrayM16]

JKoopman wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Gotta say I've never seen anyone point to Bayonetta or Dead or Alive as examples of them being alright with playing female characters.  Maybe Tomb Raider a bit.

Meh. WET was mentioned and earlier in the thread someone had defended not liking FemShep by saying they only play female characters in fighting games. Bayonetta is a bit on the ridiculous side, but it serves to get the point across.

Alright maybe you're right.  The world just got a nit colder for me.  I hope you're happy.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Go to a psychologist.

[cachx]

wishiewashie wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...
i can't stand the voice acting of the female shepard. i just don't like her tone. i've only done one playthru with her, and never again.

You're the first person I seen who does not like Jennifer Hales acting. 
I personally liked it since she could move from a soft tone to a threatening tone in a short instance whereas Mark Meer is very one-tone. Now if maleShep had a more convincing voice I would probably play him more.

Count me as the second. I don't HATE her (I have 2 femsheps and plan to make a third). But she just sounds either like she's trying too hard or she doesn't care at all.

That said, to me Shep is male, because I grew attached to my canon Shep (avatar pic). So in the end it's the player's choice on how you see your Shep.

Also, don't diss Bayonneta, yo.

[Ozzyfan223]

JKoopman wrote...

I love it when people say "I have no problem playing female characters. I loved Tomb Raider and Bayonetta, and I play female characters exclusively in Dead or Alive, etc."

Games like Tomb Raider and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta (and yes, WET is included) do not feature "strong female characters". They feature hyper-sexualized fan service. Most of them only exist to exploit virtual T&A. Mass Effect is one of the few instances where you actually have a realistic and believable representation of a strong female character who isn't some scantily-clad **** with gigantic bouncing breasts who performs "martial arts techniques" that look more like pole dances (though BioWare kinda mucked it up in ME2 with Miranda and Samara), so it's not a surprise that people who love games like Bayonetta and DoA for their "strong female characters" are puzzled at the fact that FemShep makes them slightly uncomfortable.

Hell, I play as a female in Halo: Reach, which is by no means a scantily-clad character. I have nothing against strong female characters. And I'm by no means made uncomfortable by femshep.

I just don't get immersed in to the story as much with femshep as I do with maleshep. I just can't complete a playthrough with femshep, I get bored of it. I don't know why. I think its because I just personaly find a male shepard a more believable character. Just my personal preferance. *gets ready for sexist accusations*

Modifié par Ozzyfan223, 27 janvier 2011 - 07:10 .

[Dexi]

Male Shepard all the way...



Female Shepard for those who want to act like a tough chick, but otherwise... meh.

[Saren100]

I tried playing femshep in me1 I got as far as the speech on the normandy when your about to leave the citadel then quit because I couldnt take it.



I like jennifer hale but as femshep she was just to masculine sounding

[ZLurps]

Just did ME1 run with femshep and imported her to ME2.



For me Hale sounds more authentic than Meer. She has certain authority in her voice like one could expect from someone who have a military career. I also find her ability to express wide variety of tones very impressive.

For me the way her voice is mixed to the game sounds different to Meer's voice. More dynamic compression or something perhaps? Anyway, imo she sounds great.

[habitat 67]

Saren100 wrote...

I like jennifer hale but as femshep she was just to masculine sounding

Not all women need to sound like Marylyn Monroe.
I think Femshep's voice is perfect.

[Ozzyfan223]

habitat 67 wrote...

Saren100 wrote...

I like jennifer hale but as femshep she was just to masculine sounding

Not all women need to sound like Marylyn Monroe.
I think Femshep's voice is perfect.

though I agree, femsheps voice does taper off in to being too masculine at certian points. Not a lot of the time, but I have noticed it on rare occasion.

again, Hale is a much more dyanamic actress, and her performance is better on a technical level. However, I think those funny renegade moments ("Theres a bomb!") are done better by Meer. His tone is just hilarious. And overall Renegade for that matter seems more believable on maleshep, I think femshep seems like she's trying too hard to act tough in ME2.

Modifié par Ozzyfan223, 27 janvier 2011 - 09:30 .