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[TJPags]

Nimpe wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Iberius wrote...

I don't mind his story being over; however, I think the Warden will be back in some capacity if you let him live. Not in DA2 of course, but I don't think Bioware is quite through with the Warden as of yet. The Warden's "story" is done, but that doesn't mean he can no longer "participate" in a story. Just imo I suppose.

But he - or she - could be dead, having performed the US.

That would make it difficult to participate in a new story, no?

Play awakening.

I did.  And I know what you mean.

But, IMO, people who are so very attached to their Wardens, to the extant that they don't want to stop playing the character, shouldn't have been so happy about that hand-wave.  Those who feel that the US is the best possible ending, or the proper ending - and I'm not one of them, this is clearly just my opinion - should have that Warden playing Awakening, or Golems, or WH.  Nor should they want that Warden participating in subsequent games.

Obviously, this does not apply to anyone whose Warden didn't do the US.  But there are some very attached to that US ending.

[JediHealerCosmin]

I will miss him yes, but it's better to move on. I was really upset after the Destiny trailer first aired, but in a little while I found the whole concept interesting.
"Sometimes... change is what sets us free" said Morrigan in Witch Hunt. And that line was directed more at us, the players
Can't wait to see what Hawke's story will be  

[Sesshomaru47]

Not really. There's nothing left to say. Well I'd like to know how my Dalish elf miraculously became a woman in the epilogue but aside from that, the rest are done.

[Maria Caliban]

No.

I do mind that people constantly beat the Warden's emaciated corpse on these forums instead of taking it to the DA:O ones. You know, the forum for the game that is all about the Warden.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 27 janvier 2011 - 08:23 .

[TJPags]

Iberius wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Iberius wrote...

I don't mind his story being over; however, I think the Warden will be back in some capacity if you let him live. Not in DA2 of course, but I don't think Bioware is quite through with the Warden as of yet. The Warden's "story" is done, but that doesn't mean he can no longer "participate" in a story. Just imo I suppose.

But he - or she - could be dead, having performed the US.

That would make it difficult to participate in a new story, no?

Not if the focus of the story is not on the Warden himself. Siggh I suppose I'll just use Morrigan as an example as Laidlaw has said they are not done with her story. Some people went through the mirror with Morrigan; some didn't. True, they could just make the Warden go "poof" and never bring him/her back, but if the main "story" is about Morrigan then the Warden doesn't necessarily have to be there.....since he/she is not the focus.

That being said, that doesn't mean Wardens who died do not have a hand in Morrigan's fate. Personally, I think you chose her "fate" (if Bioware continues her story) when you decided whether or not to do the DR.

Anyway in a capcity such as that I think the Warden could come back.

Well, sure, they had a hand in her fate by deciding to do the DR or not.

But it would still be difficult for them to "come back" in a new story if they did the US (which precludes the DR, obviously).  Unless you handwave - which I addressed in a prior post.

[elirian_19]

No. Change is as good as a holiday.

[Iberius]

TJPags wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Iberius wrote...

I don't mind his story being over; however, I think the Warden will be back in some capacity if you let him live. Not in DA2 of course, but I don't think Bioware is quite through with the Warden as of yet. The Warden's "story" is done, but that doesn't mean he can no longer "participate" in a story. Just imo I suppose.

But he - or she - could be dead, having performed the US.

That would make it difficult to participate in a new story, no?

Play awakening.

I did.  And I know what you mean.

But, IMO, people who are so very attached to their Wardens, to the extant that they don't want to stop playing the character, shouldn't have been so happy about that hand-wave.  Those who feel that the US is the best possible ending, or the proper ending - and I'm not one of them, this is clearly just my opinion - should have that Warden playing Awakening, or Golems, or WH.  Nor should they want that Warden participating in subsequent games.

Obviously, this does not apply to anyone whose Warden didn't do the US.  But there are some very attached to that US ending.

Exactly, which is why it can work both ways in future games/DLC if the US was the ending or the DR was the ending or any of them really. Like I said in my second post the Warden doesn't "have" to reappear if the focus is on someone else. He would be the "playable observer" or not a pc at all depending on how DA:O turned out. Simply b/c he isn't alive does not mean his choices do not change peoples' futures.

Modifié par Iberius, 27 janvier 2011 - 08:17 .

[Haristo]

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

"Sometimes... change is what sets us free" said Morrigan in Witch Hunt. And that line was directed more at us, the players

I think Morrigan sent a message to Square Enix and their Final CorridorFest Fantasy XIII 

[Blastback]

Maria Caliban wrote...

No. I do mind that people constantly beat the Warden's emaciated corpse on these forums instead of taking it to the DA:O ones. You know, the forum for the game that is all about the Warden.

I'll have you know that my Warden is not emaciated.  Or a corpse.  He's doing quite well thank you.

[Celtic Latino]

Not at all, the Warden's story was told and finished in Origins. It could be continued in Awakening, Golems, and Witch Hunt. I don't see what more could be done with him/her.



This is Dragon Age where they tell stories of the world of Thedas, not one particular individual. And you can still customize Hawke (just so players know, there were preset last names in Origins too).



Its not like Mass Effect, where the story WAS about Commander Shepard (at least the trilogy). Heroes (and villains), companions and romances come and go. No sense dragging them out because of obsessive fanboys/girls.



People need to let it go already. If they love BG2, Origins, whatever that much, just play that game for the rest of their lives and don't try anything new and quit bashing the devs and other players for moving forward (a.k.a...complainers please STFU).

[Daniteh]

I am glad the wardens story is over, just one thing i really want to know is what happened to the baby that morrigan had..

Modifié par Daniteh, 28 janvier 2011 - 05:03 .

[Maria Caliban]

Blastback wrote...

I'll have you know that my Warden is not emaciated.  Or a corpse.  He's doing quite well thank you.

As long as you don't ask BioWare to make a game about your fanfiction, I'm cool.

[Itkovian]

I am quite pleased with how the Warden's Story worked out. It was beautiful, well written, and ended well regardless of your choices.

Some are troubled there's some threads left hanging, but we'll see where that leads later on.

Itkovian

[UndercoverDoctor]

No, change is good.

[Haristo]

Daniteh wrote...

I am glad the wardens story is over, just one thing i really want to know is what happened to the baby that flemeth had..

Flemeth had a baby  OMFG I missed one ending !

[Nyaore]

While I mind how the Warden's story ended with the advent of Witch Hunt, I don't mind the fact that it's over for all intents and purposes. I've never liked the idea of keeping a hero around longer than the story could permit, and I simply cannot think of a scenario where the Warden would be needed now that the imminent threat of the Blight has ended. Some might argue the situation with the God Baby and Morrigan is important enough to drag the Warden back into the fray, but not everyone participated in the Dark Ritual and Morrigan's continued story does not necessarily need to involve the Warden in order to progress.
Now if they could come up with a plot point that could involve all Wardens regardless of their in game personalities and choices, then I wouldn't mind seeing the Warden coming back for an encore. However that's the only exception in this case, for me personally. Otherwise I want new characters with fresh perspectives on the world, not some near demi-god who already had their grand adventure.

[silentassassin264]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Nope, glad to be moving on.

Pretty much this.  It was rather hard to connect with the warden.

[Haristo]

Nyaore wrote...

While I mind how the Warden's story ended with the advent of Witch Hunt, I don't mind the fact that it's over for all intents and purposes. I've never liked the idea of keeping a hero around longer than the story could permit, and I simply cannot think of a scenario where the Warden would be needed now that the imminent threat of the Blight has ended. Some might argue the situation with the God Baby and Morrigan is important enough to drag the Warden back into the fray, but not everyone participated in the Dark Ritual and Morrigan's continued story does not necessarily need to involve the Warden in order to progress.

and considering the Dark Ritual as a need for a Sequel is the meaning that there is a canon scenario for the grey warden, starting with the fact that he must be male. And Dragon Age is all about doing what ever you want in a world made of no canon scenario.

[HTTP 404]

I think its fine, even good stories need an end.

[Nilbog79]

No, the Warden really wouldn't fit into this game's setting. It would be quite cool though to see the Warden make a cameo appearance, maybe we could run into him/her at Lothering?

[TheOrtReport]

I think I'll miss the companions more, but I'm fine with never seeing/hearing about the warden again.

[Sophiatje]

I hope you can import one character to see in Lothering, that would be fun. Although there probably would be issues because of the redesign.

[Shady314]

Haristo wrote...
and considering the Dark Ritual as a need for a Sequel is the meaning that there is a canon scenario for the grey warden, starting with the fact that he must be male. 

You don't have to be male to do the DR.

[Mad-Max90]

Do I miss the warden yeah... But hawke is so awesome, plus I'm glad I get to

See a new place

[Haristo]

Shady314 wrote...

Haristo wrote...
and considering the Dark Ritual as a need for a Sequel is the meaning that there is a canon scenario for the grey warden, starting with the fact that he must be male. 

You don't have to be male to do the DR.

What ?!? How can you have a baby with Morrigan if... OMFG She's a tranny ! 

Nah please explain... I never tried the DR with a Female...