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[Leafshadoe]

Mr.Kusy wrote...


I would like the new alt appearance pack to look like this.

LMAO

[LovesRamen]

Hey.



Samara rocked that outfit.

[Winterfly]

To proclaim people cry over this not being free is that I believe there isn't much work at all behind it, least not economy wise for Bioware.



What DLC's are free in ME2 if I may ask?



Overlord, Stolen Memory, Cerberus Network and Lair of the shadow broker is all understandable to cost you. To me, that is the chocolate you buy after your dinner. The appearance pack still is only a visit in the bathroom to fix up your hair or something,



These kinds of things where released in patches in the "old days".



Ugly or not, I am not paying for content I believe should been in there from the start. Worst idea ever I seen is THQ idea to give you a game for 30 bucks but its like half a game or the essential parts. Then you have to buy whatever part you want.



I want the full package, I dont buy mini bags of chips or buy a house but no access to the other rooms. "If you pay me another 10000 you may enter this room too. But thats only if you want!"

[AdmiralCheez]

Winterfly, it's TWO. F*CKING. DOLLARS.

[Someone With Mass]

I have to agree with AdmiralCheez on this one. I spend more money on my lunch hour. I can probably find two bucks worth of change somewhere in my house.



And if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

[Winterfly]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Winterfly, it's TWO. F*CKING. DOLLARS.

You do know, I have IBS, irritable bowl syndrome. To pay 10 kronor each day cause of my syndrome is kind of annoying. I want to dress up Miranda in something else? I need to buy the cloths? 

I resemble this appearance pack with being forced to pay for a god damn toilet visit at the trainstation. I bought a ticket, that not good enough? 

[AdmiralCheez]

I think there's a difference between buying a shirt and taking a sh*t.

[EDIT: deleted this bit because it sounded way too b*tchy.  Sorry, guys.]

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 29 janvier 2011 - 10:07 .

[Winterfly]

I see what you mean, I could buy a few hundred packs like these. But I just dont find it worth it to pay for clothing.

[AdmiralCheez]

Then skip it. Alt. appearance packs never sell as well as the "big" DLC anyway.

[Winterfly]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I think there's a difference between buying a shirt and taking a sh*t.

The shirt is Overlord DLC for example. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Uh, no, Alt. appearance pack is, quite literally, a new shirt. Overlord gave you a lot more than something to wear.

[JKoopman]

Winterfly wrote...

To proclaim people cry over this not being free is that I believe there isn't much work at all behind it, least not economy wise for Bioware.

What DLC's are free in ME2 if I may ask?

Normandy Crashsite
Zaeed - The Price of Revenge
Firewalker Pack
Cerberus Weapon and Armor
Arc Projector

ALL FREE with the purchase of the retail game on the X360 and PC. Then there's the fact that virtually every other DLC pack is included free of charge with the purchase of the PS3 version as well.

Winterfly wrote...

Overlord, Stolen Memory, Cerberus Network and Lair of the shadow broker is all understandable to cost you. To me, that is the chocolate you buy after your dinner. The appearance pack still is only a visit in the bathroom to fix up your hair or something,

These kinds of things where released in patches in the "old days".

Why do you make an arbitrary distinction? They're all additonal content. That one has more or less content than the other does not change what they are; mearly how much you pay for them. The Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC is like ordering a creme brulee after your main course. The Alternate Appearance Packs are like ordering a cup of coffee to go with your meal. One is substantial and will cost you ~$8. The other is less so and will only cost about ~$1.50. You're still charged for both however.

And what past games have ever included new outfits and armors for existing characters in free patches, let alone new characters, missions, vehicles and weapons as BioWare has done? Name an example.

Winterfly wrote...

I want the full package, I dont buy mini bags of chips or buy a house but no access to the other rooms. "If you pay me another 10000 you may enter this room too. But thats only if you want!"

And how does this apply to ME2's Alternate Appearance Packs? How are you prevented from playing and enjoying any part of the retail game by not having Garrus in shiny new armor? To borrow your analogy, that's like buying a house and expecting the previous owner to repaint the walls for you for free because you don't like the color.

Modifié par JKoopman, 29 janvier 2011 - 10:47 .

[Winterfly]

I stand by statement.



That idiot Turian run around with a broken armor whole game, even if you alter his armor. There is no logic behind it and to make it logical in this roleplaying game you're forced to buy a appearance pack where you get them in their flashy "sunglasses".



You proclaim its like having the last owner repaint? Well then we can take it on further and further to the extreme. You should expect to pay for everything, leaving your house? Oh yes.



The silly appearances is typically "free junk".

[CroGamer002]

Why Bioware didn't announced it on this forum?

[LovesRamen]

Winterfly.



If you don't like it. Then don't buy it.



Just don't freaking complain.

[Spartas Husky]

We all have to remember. EA is Bioware's daddy now...



I dont want to believe Bioware became another Bungie... but it might be the case.



Still EA never brings good news. At least not when it comes to customer related services lol

[Evil Johnny 666]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Winterfly, it's TWO. F*CKING. DOLLARS.

Yeah, and when you say that for the nth time, it starts to be pretty expensive. I mean, who wants to buy something as so useless as this? I certainly don't care to not get it, but it's still getting ripped off. Always trying to explain prices only makes these companies charge more since people don't seem to care about what - and for how much - they buy. There's a reason companies keep pouring out worthless DLC, it's because it sells. Unfortunately, sales even from ****ty things like these only makes them stronger and gives them more fuel to continue with bigger things. I can some pack were not free, but they were still ridiculously overpriced, as proven by how much an expansion can give you and how much it actually costs. The less you get, the more you are ripped off, TRUTH.

JKoopman wrote...
Normandy Crashsite
Zaeed - The Price of Revenge
Firewalker Pack
Cerberus Weapon and Armor
Arc Projector

ALL FREE
with the purchase of the retail game on the X360 and PC. Then there's
the fact that virtually every other DLC pack is included free of charge
with the purchase of the PS3 version as well.

Those are worth 20 bucks if you didn't buy the game new. Shivering Isles was 20 bucks. See something wrong? VERY wrong?

Modifié par Evil Johnny 666, 29 janvier 2011 - 11:00 .

[Val Seleznyov]

I hope that the appearance pack doesn't cater to all of the forumers that try so hard to give off a "new man" visage.



If it's armour for Miranda, Samara or Jacob, i wont be buying it as i don't want to encourage the idea of replacing clothing that actually reflects a character's personality for something more realistic in a fictional universe.

[Winterfly]

LovesRamen wrote...

Winterfly.

If you don't like it. Then don't buy it.

Just don't freaking complain.

That comment is so common everywhere.

You don't go to vote cause you do not like the parties available in your country? Better say your opinion atleast then just ignore sharing them. I believe as a buyer of Bioware products I have atleast a minor entitlement to complain upon their products and tell them of what I think. 

I am pretty sure these things will be awesome. But since they add no substance to the game aside appearance, no one will ever react to them being dressed in...eh a Miranda cheer leader as someone asked for jokingly even if its pretty crazy to see that. If it do not evolve the game and deepens it, it should not cost, should it? Its just a free drink on the house that costs.  

[JKoopman]

Winterfly wrote...

I stand by statement.

That idiot Turian run around with a broken armor whole game, even if you alter his armor. There is no logic behind it and to make it logical in this roleplaying game you're forced to buy a appearance pack where you get them in their flashy "sunglasses".

How does it break roleplaying? That's HIS custom armor. He's not going to scrap it and go galivanting off across the gaalxy looking for replacement turian armor in the middle of the mission just because the old set has a little battle damage. It's still functional; it's just not as beautiful anymore.

You can't look at their loyalty outfits as them putting on new clothes. They're just alternate recolorings of their existing outfits. Think of them like an "alternate universe" version of their default clothing, and then it will make perfect sense why Garrus' armor doesn't magically repair itself when you gain his loyalty.

Buying the Alternate Appearance Pack is like purchasing new outfits for those characters, which is why Garrus' armor is restored in it. Also, I'm sure it was a reaction to the incessant whining of the fanbase over Garrus' default armor being damaged, so BioWare decided to throw us a bone. That doesn't translate to "It should be FREE!"

Winterfly wrote...

You proclaim its like having the last owner repaint? Well then we can take it on further and further to the extreme. You should expect to pay for everything, leaving your house? Oh yes.

That's not taking it to the extreme. That's just being irrational.

How does having to pay to repaint the walls in your new home transition to having to pay every time you leave the house?

[Winterfly]

Seemingly he can go around to recolour it and similar but do not even give it an effort into repair that broken god damn armor.



I am not bloody asking for free Overlord or some discount on Mass Effect 3. But seemingly you people enjoy defending a company worth billions over a freaking 2 dollar package that wont make them poorer or richer had it been free or costing 4 dollars instead of 2.

[JKoopman]

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Normandy Crashsite
Zaeed - The Price of Revenge
Firewalker Pack
Cerberus Weapon and Armor
Arc Projector

ALL FREE
with the purchase of the retail game on the X360 and PC. Then there's
the fact that virtually every other DLC pack is included free of charge
with the purchase of the PS3 version as well.

Those are worth 20 bucks if you didn't buy the game new. Shivering Isles was 20 bucks. See something wrong? VERY wrong?

And if you bought the game used, you probably paid $40 or less for it, so that extra $20 puts you back at the base cost of a retail game.

Don't like it? Then give the developers your money instead of giving it to GameStop.

Modifié par JKoopman, 29 janvier 2011 - 11:09 .

[Winterfly]

JKoopman wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Normandy Crashsite
Zaeed - The Price of Revenge
Firewalker Pack
Cerberus Weapon and Armor
Arc Projector

ALL FREE
with the purchase of the retail game on the X360 and PC. Then there's
the fact that virtually every other DLC pack is included free of charge
with the purchase of the PS3 version as well.

Those are worth 20 bucks if you didn't buy the game new. Shivering Isles was 20 bucks. See something wrong? VERY wrong?

And if you bought the game used, you probably paid $40 or less for it, so that extra $20 puts you back at the base cost of a retail game.

Don't like it? Then give the developers your money instead of giving it to GameStop.

No, buy it used and the codes may very well already be used. 

You want people to be punished for buying a game used? 

Modifié par Winterfly, 29 janvier 2011 - 11:08 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Winterfly wrote...

That idiot Turian run around with a broken armor whole game, even if you alter his armor. There is no logic behind it and to make it logical in this roleplaying game you're forced to buy a appearance pack where you get them in their flashy "sunglasses".

Plus, Legion has a giant hole in his chest and half of your squad isn't wearing armor!  Oh my God, so illogical!  Listen, buddy, logic went out the window when they included biotics, the asari, and FTL.  Personally, I can see Garrus running around in his busted up armor all the time for the simple reason that he thinks it makes him look badass.  He's kind of derp like that.  I like his non-DLC armor better anyway, even if it is a piece of trash.  Thane and Jack, however, I quite often put in their DLC outfits, despite the covering of Jack's eyes making me sadface.

So the devs decided to make the squaddies look unique this time around instead of realistic.  Both approaches work, but many people favored the old way better.  Frankly, I'd love to be able to equip armor again, but it's not a game-breaker for me.  We'll see what they do in ME3.

You proclaim its like having the last owner repaint? Well then we can take it on further and further to the extreme. You should expect to pay for everything, leaving your house? Oh yes.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here, but the previous analogy was valid.  You can't expect the game developers to include everything you want in a game, much less to do it for free.  Stop acting like you're entitled to everything.

The silly appearances is typically "free junk".

Or very cheap junk.  It's not like you had to take out a mortgage or anything.

[JKoopman]

Winterfly wrote...

Seemingly he can go around to recolour it and similar but do not even give it an effort into repair that broken
god damn armor.

Exactly. He's repainting his armor. What sense would it make if repainting it magically fixed it?

Winterfly wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Normandy Crashsite
Zaeed - The Price of Revenge
Firewalker Pack
Cerberus Weapon and Armor
Arc Projector

ALL FREE
with the purchase of the retail game on the X360 and PC. Then there's
the fact that virtually every other DLC pack is included free of charge
with the purchase of the PS3 version as well.

Those are worth 20 bucks if you didn't buy the game new. Shivering Isles was 20 bucks. See something wrong? VERY wrong?

And if you bought the game used, you probably paid $40 or less for it, so that extra $20 puts you back at the base cost of a retail game.

Don't like it? Then give the developers your money instead of giving it to GameStop.

No, buy it used and the codes may very well already be used. 

You want people to be punished for buying a game used? 

Yeah. That's the point. You buy the game used and that code is likely going to be invalid.

No, I don't believe people should be punished for buying games used. You however seem to think that consumers should be rewarded by the developers for buying their game second-hand, when buying a game used means that the developer doesn't see one cent from that sale.

It's not a punishment not to receive extra bonus content for free.

Modifié par JKoopman, 29 janvier 2011 - 11:14 .