HBC Dresden wrote...
My only B*tch is that we have to wait a week or more for this thing when it's already done.
james1976 wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
My only B*tch is that we have to wait a week or more for this thing when it's already done.
There's an actual release date on it now? Was sort of hoping for a Tuesday release (today Feb. 1st) but I suppose it can wait. I'm nearly done with my current character's playthrough in ME2 and about to start another in ME1. So it'll be at least another week before I'm back to ME2 again anyway.
...Val Seleznyov wrote...
Babli wrote...
O RLY?Val Seleznyov wrote...
I don't believe that those who whines about the lack of proper armour are in the majority. They're a very annoying and very vocal minority, and i hope that Bioware treats them as such in regards to squad attire choices in ME3.
I can't view the results without voting, but the fact that it has only been viewed 6,051 times should be your first clue that it's not exactly a comprehensive study of the Mass Effect fanbase.
I'd also posit that the types most drawn to such a poll would be the ones with some kind of grievance. To the vast, vast majority of fans (including ones that don't post on this forum) you'll probably find that most people like the direction taken in ME2. It's certainly not a bone of contention on any of the non-ME-specific gaming forums i post on.
Babli wrote...
...Val Seleznyov wrote...
Babli wrote...
O RLY?Val Seleznyov wrote...
I don't believe that those who whines about the lack of proper armour are in the majority. They're a very annoying and very vocal minority, and i hope that Bioware treats them as such in regards to squad attire choices in ME3.
I can't view the results without voting, but the fact that it has only been viewed 6,051 times should be your first clue that it's not exactly a comprehensive study of the Mass Effect fanbase.
I'd also posit that the types most drawn to such a poll would be the ones with some kind of grievance. To the vast, vast majority of fans (including ones that don't post on this forum) you'll probably find that most people like the direction taken in ME2. It's certainly not a bone of contention on any of the non-ME-specific gaming forums i post on.
So when in these polls which are about ME 1 vs ME 2 is ME 2 winning, then its proof that ME 2 is better.
But sudenly, when there is over 2000 votes for armor for squadmates and not even 300 votes for cheap fanservice, then it proves nothing...
I give up on this subject and just hope that Bioware realized that not everybody wants comics bs in ME.
Jebel Krong wrote...
*sigh* i know this may be a difficult concept for you, but *you* don't constitute even a fraction of a fraction of the audience, let alone a majority...
Val Seleznyov wrote...
Babli wrote...
...Val Seleznyov wrote...
Babli wrote...
O RLY?Val Seleznyov wrote...
I don't believe that those who whines about the lack of proper armour are in the majority. They're a very annoying and very vocal minority, and i hope that Bioware treats them as such in regards to squad attire choices in ME3.
I can't view the results without voting, but the fact that it has only been viewed 6,051 times should be your first clue that it's not exactly a comprehensive study of the Mass Effect fanbase.
I'd also posit that the types most drawn to such a poll would be the ones with some kind of grievance. To the vast, vast majority of fans (including ones that don't post on this forum) you'll probably find that most people like the direction taken in ME2. It's certainly not a bone of contention on any of the non-ME-specific gaming forums i post on.
So when in these polls which are about ME 1 vs ME 2 is ME 2 winning, then its proof that ME 2 is better.
But sudenly, when there is over 2000 votes for armor for squadmates and not even 300 votes for cheap fanservice, then it proves nothing...
I give up on this subject and just hope that Bioware realized that not everybody wants comics bs in ME.
What? I have neither referenced nor conducted any sort of a poll.
I'm sorry that i don't put as much stock in your polling of a minute percentage of ME2 players as you do.
Modifié par Remus Artega, 01 février 2011 - 05:19 .
Remus Artega wrote...
AFAIK many election polls operate with simillar figures and those are taking more poeple into accout than just 2+ milions and yet they are still pretty much accurate and same goes with this forum ...I believe that this forum represents the whole spectrum of fans of the game from ME1 fans to ME2 fans including ME fans who like the ME universe as a whole so I would say it is pretty relevant poll...
If you believe that many don't care about it then it has as much credit as me saying otherwise thus making it irrelevant moot point...Babli on the other hand provided poll that you dismissed for no good reason... (the only exception is you being the Turian Councilor then you're off the hook)
Modifié par Val Seleznyov, 01 février 2011 - 05:34 .
Modifié par emanziboy, 01 février 2011 - 05:49 .
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JKoopman wrote...
I love how there are people (you know who you are) complaining about the fact that others finally get the option to put Miranda in something resembling proper armor instead of BioWare giving her a third ****ty catsuit outfit to prance about in. What, two outfits weren't enough for you? You have to throw a tantrum and cry like babies because a portion of the fanbase (no matter how much of an "irritating minority" you may think they are) finally get something that appeals to them after a year of waiting?
Jebus. Sometimes I really wonder about this community.
Klimy wrote...
LOL, Bioware staff was feeding us with bull**** that they have dedicated teams for DLC, ME2 PS3 port and ME3. And that nothing will be effected by spreading resources.
Now they failed to deliver MONTHLY DLC by 7 month, and all they can do are new costumes?
What a pile of crap. If developers (if Bioware didn't lie about dedicated team) could only color existing NPC into new colours in 7 month, then they need to fire those idiots.
But personally I think Bioware was just talking out of their ass about hard work on DLC. Funny how PS3 port failed to sale and they ****ed up with DLC.
Klimy wrote...
LOL, Bioware staff was feeding us with bull**** that they have dedicated teams for DLC, ME2 PS3 port and ME3. And that nothing will be effected by spreading resources.
Remus Artega wrote...
I dropped the word pre somewhere...anyway you provided nothing but your own opinion which is good for everyone is doing the same here but it's not good enough to argue with someone who at least showed some effort and backed up his statement with poll (filled with "manipulated" voters as you might want to label it) that you countered only with childish denial...
Jebel Krong wrote...
Terror_K wrote...
Burdokva wrote...
Val Seleznyov wrote...
It's certainly more impressive than your diction.
If you're seriously trying to dispute the fact that Miranda's new, generic armour is anything less than Bioware "catering to the desires of others" then you should probably find a more educative way to spend your time than calling the intelligence of random internet users into question.
It's clear when comparing the squad attire choices in both Mass Effect games, that the artists wanted to take a different approach with ME2. Style over practicality, you might say. Miranda's new generic armour goes against that. Ergo, it's pandering.
No offense, but if you want to play "pretty-in-combat" dress-up, maybe you could just buy some Barbie dolls and action figure weapons, and have the time of your life playing non-sensical firefights.
On a more serious note, you do get that most people are actually dissatisfied with BioWare's new "style above all sense" approach for Mass Effect 2, right?
^ This times 10,000,000!
Seriously... I don't get how anybody with a brain in their head can actually prefer this silly Michael Bay-esque approach that ME2 seemed to shift more towards. I really don't. How am I supposed to take anything seriously when the people making the game can't even do it?
really? and "michael bay-eque" approach? frankly i don't see how anyone in a brain could not like the more stylish and character-oriented outfits of me2, rather than the generic clone-suits of me1.
oh but of course the dullards like the simple choices...
Val Seleznyov is right - it is a case of bioware pandering to a few forum complainers, simply because they complained long enough, like spoiled children - when we could have got something different, perhaps more imaginative but no we get this instead: appeal to the minority once again.
Val Seleznyov wrote...
Remus Artega wrote...
I dropped the word pre somewhere...anyway you provided nothing but your own opinion which is good for everyone is doing the same here but it's not good enough to argue with someone who at least showed some effort and backed up his statement with poll (filled with "manipulated" voters as you might want to label it) that you countered only with childish denial...
Childish denial? His poll doesn't even make a distinction between "armour" and the "civilian" clothes worn by Miranda and Jack. That's how worthless it is.
All the poll really shows is that a lot of people like the idea of being able to customise their squad's look. To a lot of people that voted, i'm sure that simply means being able to change the pattern on Miranda's catsuit; not replacing it with generic armour.
StowyMcStowstow wrote...
Val Seleznyov wrote...
Remus Artega wrote...
I dropped the word pre somewhere...anyway you provided nothing but your own opinion which is good for everyone is doing the same here but it's not good enough to argue with someone who at least showed some effort and backed up his statement with poll (filled with "manipulated" voters as you might want to label it) that you countered only with childish denial...
Childish denial? His poll doesn't even make a distinction between "armour" and the "civilian" clothes worn by Miranda and Jack. That's how worthless it is.
All the poll really shows is that a lot of people like the idea of being able to customise their squad's look. To a lot of people that voted, i'm sure that simply means being able to change the pattern on Miranda's catsuit; not replacing it with generic armour.
Yes, it does. The first option is "Every team member gets an modular, customizable, armor like Shepards N7 in ME 2." I'm fairly certain people know what that means.
You really like denying that tons of people want real armor for their squadmates, don't you? Either you're serious, and can't fathom how anybody wouldn't want to stare at Miranda's ass, or you're an articulate troll.
Modifié par emanziboy, 01 février 2011 - 07:04 .
StowyMcStowstow wrote...
Val Seleznyov wrote...
Remus Artega wrote...
I dropped the word pre somewhere...anyway you provided nothing but your own opinion which is good for everyone is doing the same here but it's not good enough to argue with someone who at least showed some effort and backed up his statement with poll (filled with "manipulated" voters as you might want to label it) that you countered only with childish denial...
Childish denial? His poll doesn't even make a distinction between "armour" and the "civilian" clothes worn by Miranda and Jack. That's how worthless it is.
All the poll really shows is that a lot of people like the idea of being able to customise their squad's look. To a lot of people that voted, i'm sure that simply means being able to change the pattern on Miranda's catsuit; not replacing it with generic armour.
Yes, it does. The first option is "Every team member gets an modular, customizable, armor like Shepards N7 in ME 2." I'm fairly certain people know what that means.
You really like denying that tons of people want real armor for their squadmates, don't you? Either you're serious, and can't fathom how anybody wouldn't want to stare at Miranda's ass, or you're an articulate troll.
Modifié par Val Seleznyov, 01 février 2011 - 07:12 .
I guess I should give in and leave it at that...Val Seleznyov wrote...
Remus Artega wrote...
I dropped the word pre somewhere...anyway you provided nothing but your own opinion which is good for everyone is doing the same here but it's not good enough to argue with someone who at least showed some effort and backed up his statement with poll (filled with "manipulated" voters as you might want to label it) that you countered only with childish denial...
Childish denial? His poll doesn't even make a distinction between "armour" and the "civilian" clothes worn by Miranda and Jack. That's how worthless it is.
All the poll really shows is that a lot of people like the idea of being able to customise their squad's look. To a lot of people that voted, i'm sure that simply means being able to change the pattern on Miranda's catsuit; not replacing it with generic armour.
Modifié par Remus Artega, 01 février 2011 - 07:19 .
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