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Mass Effect 2's Suicide Mission Guide - *Everything* about the final mission.


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#226
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^^^^^^

(Go immediately after crew abduction)
No armor: Jack dies.
No shield, take Kasumi and Legion to fight Oculus: Tali dies.
No cannon: Thane dies.
Specialist: Jacob (dies).
Fire Team Leader: Irrelevant.
Escort: Samara (must be unloyal, dies)
Biotic barrier: Anyone (squad = Mordin, and Kasumi or Zaeed. Mordin dies (note, Jacob and Mordin are interchangeable in this scenario)

Then you're just left with Miranda. Either leave her behind in "Hold the Line" without two of Zaeed, Garrus or Grunt, or take her with you to the Huma-reaper. Either way, she must be disloyal.

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Ok, I'm just going to ask this right here... how can I get as few squad mates to survive as possible without Shepard dying?

I want as many new squadmates as possible for ME3 on one of my playthroughs.

And what about only having the ME1 squaddies survive, Garrus and Tali. How can I keep just those 2 alive?

Modifié par ebevan91, 16 juin 2011 - 01:47 .


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maitreikrit2

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In my actual playthrough I wish only samara (loyal) and zaeed (no loyal) survivor (I want to kill him in his loyauty mission ) what's the combinaison to
have this result ?  It's possible this combinaison ?

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For Shepard to live you just need any two of the suicide mission participants to get back to the ship in one piece. But if you want to kill Zaeed on his loyalty mission, that option won't be there if you only have two alive in total.

Keeping just two alive can be tricky. So just a friendly FYI to anyone reading the thread: It's a little late to plan something like that when you're just about to launch the suicide mission.

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maitreikrit2

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I I found the combination that I tried only Samara survivor and this shepard can importe to me 3 :
www.heberger-image.fr/images/82015_zaeed.png.html

technically I am right

Modifié par maitreikrit2, 22 juin 2011 - 07:16 .


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so...what happens if zaeed is your only squad member and then u do his loyalty post-suicide and leave him for dead?...

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maitreikrit2 wrote...

technically I am right

Never said it (Samara + Zaeed surviving the suicide mission) couldn't be done.


Hellbound555 wrote...

so...what happens if zaeed is your only squad member and then u do his loyalty post-suicide and leave him for dead?...

Already answered.
1) You'll never be left with Shepard alive with just 1 squad member after the SM.
2) If you only have two (Zaeed included) left, you won't be given that option with Zaeed.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 22 juin 2011 - 04:18 .


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I've been working on my "uber-bad, totally renegade, give Cerberus every possible advantage in ME 3" run through and I was looking to keep Zaeed, Jack and Morinth as my only survivors but Jacob just wouldn't die, now I realise if I send him as an escort he'll die but the crew survive.

So worth it.

Thanks, Hah Yes Reapers, for reminding me that a unloyal escort dies.

: )

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my mistake... nvr realize you do need at least 8 before you can go collector ship

Modifié par dantares83, 30 juin 2011 - 03:24 .


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Rip The Reaper

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When you first land on the collector base, after you have selected squad leader and vent specialist and such. What determines who walks out of the Normandy behind your squad leader and specialist? Is it random?

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

When you first land on the collector base, after you have selected squad leader and vent specialist and such. What determines who walks out of the Normandy behind your squad leader and specialist? Is it random?


In my experience, Thane is usually in there... I think it's a pecking order, perhaps the same one as who dies without the Thanix Cannon, because I once put Thane as vents and Garrus was following.

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Lt. Zokulow

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I always seem to lose one squad mate only,the last 3 times,,,great flow chart will apply this information next time.

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I was wondering... is it possible for Tali, Legion, and Zaeed to survive with the entire crew (including Chakwas) biting the dust (no escort)?

Modifié par little_sargon, 12 juillet 2011 - 10:28 .


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Cyberfrog81

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It's possible if (for example) you don't have Kasumi and Miranda is not loyal.

I assumed you want the rest dead.

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Rip The Reaper

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Is it even possible to kill miranda and smara before you get to the part where you rescue your crew? I'd like to see how the dialog changes if possible.

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Cyberfrog81 wrote...

It's possible if (for example) you don't have Kasumi and Miranda is not loyal.

I assumed you want the rest dead.


Yes. No Kasumi, Miranda is not loyal, no crew left. Only survivors being Tali, Legion, and Zaeed. Possible?

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Such a lifesaver! Thanks!

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Commander_Adept wrote...

Rip The Reaper wrote...

When you first land on the collector base, after you have selected squad leader and vent specialist and such. What determines who walks out of the Normandy behind your squad leader and specialist? Is it random?


In my experience, Thane is usually in there... I think it's a pecking order, perhaps the same one as who dies without the Thanix Cannon, because I once put Thane as vents and Garrus was following.


yea i think you're right, there is an order. Thane being first and Jack always being second, not sure after that tho.

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Just mod resources to 999999 get all ship upgrades, don't give a **** about the rest except for resources, But I did this after first playthrough, I died....hard. I went SPLAT!

#245
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But I did do loyalty missions tho, those always help especially with getting some chimmy changa time from your LI.

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ive palyed trough the game three times once were the entire team died and one so i could get the no man left behind achivment and recently completed it Jack died from the Laser from the mini drones , Legion was killed by the core then jacobs was taken away by the swarm then i sent zeaed to take the crew back but he died :C and then finally Samara died fighting on the finale mission part and evry one else made it im gona keep it that way so it wa smore tramatic and i can see the effects it makes in ME3

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Og Fux 69

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It's probable that you will just not be able to import a save where you died. Boring as that... But hopefully, BioWare will surprise us.

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Og Fux 69 wrote...

It's probable that you will just not be able to import a save where you died. Boring as that... But hopefully, BioWare will surprise us.


they have said it in one of the interviews that if ur shepard died... its game over. Galaxy is lost and stuff.

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Platonius wrote...

Og Fux 69 wrote...

It's probable that you will just not be able to import a save where you died. Boring as that... But hopefully, BioWare will surprise us.


they have said it in one of the interviews that if ur shepard died... its game over. Galaxy is lost and stuff.


Yar, just like the failed mission clip in Arrival.

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5. Will the squadmates hold the line?
     Pick two out of the three following Defenders to leave behind = [Survived!]
     Image IPBImage IPB
     Image IPBImage IPB
     Image IPBImage IPB

    Image IPB Any other combination = [Death] (Or is it?) (Priority List - unloyal squadmates die before loyal ones)


Does this mean that picking all three may result in someone dying?

If so, it should be clarified in the post quoted above, because it stands to reason that if two of Garrus, Zaeed and Grunt can save everyone holding the line, then three should as well.

If not, then there's something wrong. I had Grunt, Zaeed and Garrus holding the line, all of them loyal, along with several squadmates who weren't loyal. Mordin, not loyal, died holding the line. I had loyal Samara and loyal Kasumi in the boss battle, thought that shouldn't be of relevance here. Correct?

(My intention was to let everyone survive with a minimal number of loyalty missions, but on the other hand having someone die makes the mission a bit more meaningful and it brings variation into ME3 once the save is imported.)

Modifié par cruc1al, 09 août 2011 - 02:04 .