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[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Hmmm anyone know how to orchestrate so that Miranda and Jack survive and everyone else dies? I tried doing it myself but I don't get that averages thing on Hold the Line I get confused.cause I suck badly at math,

I haven't tried myself yet, since I've preferred saving everyone, but check out the links here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5855452/1#5855495

Yeah that's the beginning of this thread, Miranda and Jack is a combo not on the list.  As for saving everyone, I've always done that before, but I thought it might be cool to do one where just Miranda and Jack survive for my total womanizing jerk Shepard heh.  Just the women he's slept with survive. Haha.

[Jamin101]

So I may have been living a lie. The first time I ever beat ME2 it was only Chawkwas alive. When I beat it the second time i did alot of research on different forums. Did more when i did my renegade playthrough and I was always under the impression you can do 2 missions after the IFF and still save your crew.

Legion's loyalty mission and tali's loyalty mission.

I like doing Tali's mission so that I can bring Legion to the flotilla.

Anyways its been a long time since I played or came to these forums (scared of ME3 spoilers) and i am now doing my main cannon file including arrival.

So thats the backstory. Long story short are people 100% positive it is only 1 mission after the IFF to save everyone or is it 0 or 2. It seems like google has a different answer on every link.

Thanks for the help

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Jamin101 wrote...

So I may have been living a lie. The first time I ever beat ME2 it was only Chawkwas alive. When I beat it the second time i did alot of research on different forums. Did more when i did my renegade playthrough and I was always under the impression you can do 2 missions after the IFF and still save your crew.

Legion's loyalty mission and tali's loyalty mission.

I like doing Tali's mission so that I can bring Legion to the flotilla.

Anyways its been a long time since I played or came to these forums (scared of ME3 spoilers) and i am now doing my main cannon file including arrival.

So thats the backstory. Long story short are people 100% positive it is only 1 mission after the IFF to save everyone or is it 0 or 2. It seems like google has a different answer on every link.

Thanks for the help

Yeah, you do everything but Tali's loyalty mish, then go get Legion and immediately do Tali's then his mish after that, then the mysterious mission you know nothing about will trigger.

[slyboy78]

 Does anyone know the best way for just Miranda & Jacob to die? i'm doing a renegade playthrough but i want to Destroy the collector base leaving the Cerberus Cheerleader & the Racist to die

[Arkalezth]

Racist? An easy way to have someone killed is to have him/her unloyal and in your party in the end fight.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 23 février 2012 - 05:53 .

[slyboy78]

Arkalezth wrote...

Racist? An easy way to have someone killed is to have him/her unloyal and in your party in the end fight.

Should i just shove Jacob in the vent and remove Miranda's loatly and shove her as fire team leader 2?

[Arkalezth]

No, I mean, just fight the Terminator with both in your party. If they're unloyal, they'll die afterwards. If they're already loyal in your game, that complicates things.

Care to explain the racist bit? Just curious, I don't want to go off-topic, but I don't remember anything racist coming out of Jacob.

[slyboy78]

Arkalezth wrote...

No, I mean, just fight the Terminator with both in your party. If they're unloyal, they'll die afterwards. If they're already loyal in your game, that complicates things.

Care to explain the racist bit? Just curious, I don't want to go off-topic, but I don't remember anything racist coming out of Jacob.

For the first bit, won;t that kill me if they die they can't help me up

2nd bit, during some inturludes jacob makes some racist hints at some of the squad, and if your in a relationship with garrus he makes a bit of a slur about garrus saying that femshep pefers garrus over him

[slyboy78]

and to be honest, i never really liked jacob :| i just dislike him and miranda

[Arkalezth]

slyboy78 wrote...

For the first bit, won;t that kill me if they die they can't help me up

According to the image in the OP, you need 2 alive squad members, period, regardless of who was with you at the boss fight.

[Pacifien]

The only way to kill Miranda is to lose (or never gain) her loyalty and then you must take her to the final boss fight. She has mystical plot armor that protects her as a fireteam leader and from seeker swarms.

[Pacifien]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
Yeah that's the beginning of this thread, Miranda and Jack is a combo not on the list.  As for saving everyone, I've always done that before, but I thought it might be cool to do one where just Miranda and Jack survive for my total womanizing jerk Shepard heh.  Just the women he's slept with survive. Haha.

I can come up with a solution if you're interested, but I need to know one thing: do you want the Normandy crew to survive as well?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Pacifien wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
Yeah that's the beginning of this thread, Miranda and Jack is a combo not on the list.  As for saving everyone, I've always done that before, but I thought it might be cool to do one where just Miranda and Jack survive for my total womanizing jerk Shepard heh.  Just the women he's slept with survive. Haha.

I can come up with a solution if you're interested, but I need to know one thing: do you want the Normandy crew to survive as well?

Not unless it's necessary haha. I want everyone dead but Miranda and jack LOL

[Pacifien]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I can come up with a solution if you're interested, but I need to know one thing: do you want the Normandy crew to survive as well?

Not unless it's necessary haha. I want everyone dead but Miranda and jack LOL

This is actually one of the more difficult ones, then.

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Final Squadmates: Jack and Miranda
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Loyals: Garrus, Jacob, Jack, Kasumi, Legion, Miranda, Mordin, Thane
Nonloyals: Grunt, Samara, Tali, Zaeed*

Before going through the Omega-4 Mass Relay:
- You *must* resolve the confrontation between Jack and Miranda.
- You must either sabotage Tali's loyalty mission or side with Legion.
- You must either skip Samara's loyalty mission or sabotage it by scaring Morinth away.
- You must skip Grunt's loyalty mission. (You can alternately skip Mordin's or Kasumi's.)
- You must upgrade the armor, but NOT the shields or weapons systems of the Normandy.
* - YOU MUST NOT RECRUIT ZAEED.

Take Tali and Kasumi to fight the Oculus so that Legion will die.

Vents: Jacob
NO Escort
Biotic: Use anyone but Jack, take Garrus with anyone but Jack
2nd Fireteam Leader: Mordin (or Kasumi)
Left to Hold the Line: Tali, Kasumi, Jack, Miranda (According to the HtL calculations, 2 should die here.)
Final Boss Team: Samara and Grunt

* AFTER the suicide mission, you can recruit Zaeed. Do his loyalty mission and take the paragon path. You can then leave him to die.

Death Toll
1. Legion - No shield upgrade, incinerated.
2. Thane - No weapon upgrade, impaled.
3. Jacob - Rocket to the face.
4. Garrus - Taken by Seeker Swarms.
5. Mordin - Shot while closing the door.
6. Tali
7. Kasumi - Hold the Line score too low, both die
8. Samara
9. Grunt - Both unloyal, die after the final boss fight
10. Zaeed - Left to burn.

Modifié par Pacifien, 26 février 2012 - 08:22 .

[Dragorith]

Will a non-loyal Miranda die if I use her as the crew escort?

[Pacifien]

Dragorith wrote...
Will a non-loyal Miranda die if I use her as the crew escort?

You can't use her as a crew escort.

[CroGamer002]

Damn!

People still use this thread.

[Pacifien]

Mesina2 wrote...
Damn!

People still use this thread.

It's crunch time. A little over a week to get those "Worst Playthroughs Ever" done for import into ME3.

By request:

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Final Squadmates: Kasumi, Legion, Tali, Thane
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Loyals: Garrus, Grunt, Jack, Jacob, Kasumi, Legion, Mordin, Tali, Thane
Nonloyals: Miranda, Samara, Zaeed

Before going through the Omega-4 Mass Relay:
- You must resolve the argument between Tali and Legion amicably for both.
- You must side with Jack during her confrontation with Miranda.
- You must sabotage Samara's loyalty mission by scaring Morinth away.
- You must take the paragon route on Zaeed's mission and not take the paragon option to gain his trust. (Or just leave him to die. That's always fun.)
- You must upgrade the shields and weapons systems, but NOT the armor.

Vent: Send Jacob.
Escort: Send Zaeed. (Or send no one, if you want the crew to die.)
Biotic: Use anyone, take Garrus with anyone but Thane.
2nd Fireteam Leader: Use Grunt.
Hold the Line: Samara, Mordin, Tali, Kasumi, Thane (The HtL score dictates 2 people will die here. Samara, as an unloyal squadmate, will die first, followed by Mordin.)
Final Boss: Miranda and Legion (Miranda, as unloyal, will die; If you didn't want an escort earlier, you must use Zaeed here.)

Death Toll:
1. Jack - Death by Exploding Console
2. Jacob - Death by Rocket to Face
3. Garrus - Death by Seeker Swarm
4. Grunt - Death by measly bullet to gut
5. Zaeed - Death by sacrifice
6. Samara
7. Mordin - Died holding the line
8. Miranda - Died by falling platform

[Ritalove]

Hello everyone,
I don't know if it was already posted but here is how to make survive only Mordin and Jacob:

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Final squadmates : MORDIN & JACOB
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Loyals: Jack, Jacob, Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion,Thane, Kasumi
Non-loyals: Miranda, Tali, Samara (recruit Zaeed after the final mission)
Normandy Upgrades: None
Chakwas & Crew: your choice

Before the Omega-4 Relay
- Do NOT recruit Zaeed until after the final mission
- Go through the Omega-4 Relay immediately after abduction if you want to save
the crew
- Side with Jack during the Miranda/Jack fight
- Hand over the evidence and traumatize Tali for her loyalty mission or side
with Legion during Legion/Tali fight
- Mess up Samara's loyalty quest by scaring Morinth away when you meet her
- Bring Tali and Kasumi to the Oculus fight
- Recruit Zaeed after the final mission and do his loyalty quest and go Paragon
(leave him in the fire)

Assignments
Vents - Garrus (dies)
Fire Team Leader - Any
Biotic - Samara (bring Grunt and Miranda, Grunt dies)
Second Fire Team Leader - Kasumi (dies)
Escort - Jacob
Final boss squadmates – Miranda and Samara (both die)
Distraction Team - Tali, Mordin (Tali dies)

Deaths:
Before landing
1.Jack - No Armor Upgrade, laser'd
2.Legion - No Shield Upgrade, incinerated
3.Thane - No Weapon upgrade, impaled

After landing
4.Garrus - Died by rocket to face
5.Grunt - Died by seeker swarm
6.Kasumi - Died while closing second door
7.Tali - Died holding the line
8.Miranda - Died at final boss
9.Samara - Died at final boss
10.Zaeed - Died in a fire

ps: a big thanks to Pacifien and Ecael whose playthrough guides helped me a lot
(Original post not mine, just tweaked a bit)

Modifié par Ritalove, 27 février 2012 - 09:33 .

[K0M154R]

Is there any sort of equation as to who pulls you into the Normandy at the end? Particularly when the squad mates you take to battle the big boss baddy at the end bite the dust? It seems, to me, to be just random, which strikes me as strange as EVERYTHING else has some sort of mathmatical equation.

[redkryptonite7]

 I am trying to do a worst possible renegade file.  I have just started this file, so I have the whole game to do whatever would make this scenario work.  I want to end the game with Morinth and Zaeed,  because you need at least 2 members alive for Shep to survive.  The catch is, I want to know if this is possible to do WITHOUT having completed zaeed's loyalty mission.  I hear you can kill him in his loyalty mission but only if you do his loyalty mission after the suicide mission.  This would allow me to have a file with only 1 surviving squad member and an alive Shepard.  Can anyone tell me if that is possible?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Pacifien wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I can come up with a solution if you're interested, but I need to know one thing: do you want the Normandy crew to survive as well?

Not unless it's necessary haha. I want everyone dead but Miranda and jack LOL

This is actually one of the more difficult ones, then.

--------------------
Final Squadmates: Jack and Miranda
--------------------

Loyals: Garrus, Jacob, Jack, Kasumi, Legion, Miranda, Mordin, Thane
Nonloyals: Grunt, Samara, Tali, Zaeed*

Before going through the Omega-4 Mass Relay:
- You *must* resolve the confrontation between Jack and Miranda.
- You must either sabotage Tali's loyalty mission or side with Legion.
- You must either skip Samara's loyalty mission or sabotage it by scaring Morinth away.
- You must skip Grunt's loyalty mission. (You can alternately skip Mordin's or Kasumi's.)
- You must upgrade the armor, but NOT the shields or weapons systems of the Normandy.
* - YOU MUST NOT RECRUIT ZAEED.

Hmmm can you not recruit him? That is, will I need to uninstall him until I am ready to recruit him?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

redkryptonite7 wrote...

 I am trying to do a worst possible renegade file.  I have just started this file, so I have the whole game to do whatever would make this scenario work.  I want to end the game with Morinth and Zaeed,  because you need at least 2 members alive for Shep to survive.  The catch is, I want to know if this is possible to do WITHOUT having completed zaeed's loyalty mission.  I hear you can kill him in his loyalty mission but only if you do his loyalty mission after the suicide mission.  This would allow me to have a file with only 1 surviving squad member and an alive Shepard.  Can anyone tell me if that is possible?

It's not possible... Here is a guy who did it on youtube, but he said his game was glitched. His Tali was alive and dead at the same time in the save file.



He did it with Kasumi and Zaeed, but as he explains in his notes, normally if only Zaeed and another are left, you cannot kill him in his loyalty mission.  You absolutely positively must have 2 characters available at all times essentially.

[redkryptonite7]

Damn. Oh well. That does make sense. I suppose I would get stuck at the 'select squad members' screen forever if I were to try to do a mission after that. I'm just going to try for a jack and Miranda only file instead, but I have already recruited zaeed. I was thinking that if I just sold legion to cerberus, and used a loyal zaeed as an escort, I could work the same ending as a jack and Miranda only - even though I have zaeed already. Then after the mission I can just kill off zaeed in his loyalty mission. Either way - it seems as though many people are interested in how to make a jack and Miranda play through after they've already fudged up and got zaeed. Anybody have a solid plan for that?

[redkryptonite7]

Edit that statement...could not use loyal zaeed as escort because I intend to kill him after, meaning he must be unloyal - which would mean he'd fail as an escort. Back to the drawing board....