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[Pacifien]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
Hmmm can you not recruit him? That is, will I need to uninstall him until I am ready to recruit him?

Simply ignore him when going to Omega. Hug the wall until you reach to door. Cover your face. Plug your ears and sing the Scientist Salarian song. Ignore the Batarian getting his ass kicked by the mean ol' human.

[Pacifien]

K0M154R wrote...
Is there any sort of equation as to who pulls you into the Normandy at the end? Particularly when the squad mates you take to battle the big boss baddy at the end bite the dust? It seems, to me, to be just random, which strikes me as strange as EVERYTHING else has some sort of mathmatical equation.

Who catches who?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Pacifien wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
Hmmm can you not recruit him? That is, will I need to uninstall him until I am ready to recruit him?

Simply ignore him when going to Omega. Hug the wall until you reach to door. Cover your face. Plug your ears and sing the Scientist Salarian song. Ignore the Batarian getting his ass kicked by the mean ol' human.

Ok, yeah I did that... so hard... I hate batarians... seriously hate them.  Vorcha? They're cool.  Batarians? Scum. Less than scum.  In arrival I have a hard time warning the Batarian colony on my paragon character (I still do, but It's like dammit I want to let the bataraians BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!!)

[N7Infernox]

Can I survive with no loyals?

[Jitawa]

Hmm.. the original guide for "Only Legion and Tali survive" in the links predates the addition of Kasumi.

[KodiakAsh]

I figured out a Miranda / Garrus scenario I am going to go with for my full Regenade ME1-3 play through (just finished my whole Paragon one). I want to save Miranda cause she's going to be my LI (only the best for Renegade Shep).

Zaeed: Avoid, Kill After
Thane: Taken by Swarm
Mordin: Second Team Lead
Grunt: Non Upgraded Weapon
Jack: No Armor
Samara (Non Loyal): Escort
Tali: Held the Line
Legion (Non Loyal): Final Battle
Jacob: Vents
Kasumi: Shields

Thane/Garrus to fight Occulus
Thane/Garrus for Long Walk with Miranda as Biotic
Legion/Garrus Final Battle

That should work I believe based on the original image in this post and still let me do all the loyalty missions for XP. Normally I wouldn't care about XP but since it actually transfers over that's pretty big.

Modifié par KodiakAsh, 11 mars 2012 - 04:58 .

[Pacifien]

N7Infernox wrote...

Can I survive with no loyals?

Getting Shepard to survive with no one loyal is easy enough, especially if you upgrade the Normandy so that you're at least starting with a full set of cannon fodder when you start your way through the Collector Base. Leaving Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed to Hold the Line makes for a pretty strong defense even when they're not loyal. Miranda survives as a second fireteam leader even when not loyal as well. You also maximize your defense by sacrificing your weaker squadmates for the tech position, escort, and biotic field.

[Pacifien]

KodiakAsh wrote...
Thane: Taken by Swarm
Grunt: Non Upgraded Weapon

This part isn't going to work. If you have Thane in your squad, he will always be killed by the non-upgraded weapon. The reason there is a list of squadmates after his name is in case people don't recruit him, then it goes to the next one on the list.

So Grunt will be the one you'll want taken by the swarm. Take him with Tali, he'll die before her and she'll still die when it comes time to hold the line.

[Pacifien]

Jitawa wrote...

Hmm.. the original guide for "Only Legion and Tali survive" in the links predates the addition of Kasumi.

Yes, that's how long we've been working on this guide, since before Kasumi.   (It even says "hope Grunt dies," because we didn't even know if it was random or not.)

I think it's an easy enough fix, though. At a glance, I'd say you'd just screw up Samara's loyalty mission by scaring Morinth off. Without upgrading the shields, Kasumi is first in line to die. Garrus will need to be taken by the Seeker Swarms then, so plan for that. Use Grunt as the second fireteam leader. Bring Samara and Miranda to the final boss.

[KodiakAsh]

Pacifien wrote...

KodiakAsh wrote...
Thane: Taken by Swarm
Grunt: Non Upgraded Weapon

This part isn't going to work. If you have Thane in your squad, he will always be killed by the non-upgraded weapon. The reason there is a list of squadmates after his name is in case people don't recruit him, then it goes to the next one on the list.

So Grunt will be the one you'll want taken by the swarm. Take him with Tali, he'll die before her and she'll still die when it comes time to hold the line.

Perfect, thanks.  I wasn't sure if I brought someone along to fight the Occulus if it mattered or not.

[ThomasakaDes_]

This guide should be fixed.
Everyone was loyal, but Tali still died. I restarted the mission and sent Tali as the escort instead of Grunt and she lived, everyone lived.
I wwas using Mordin and Garrus in the reaper battle.

[Arkalezth]

The guide is right. Tali has the worst score at the "hold the line" part. Grunt and Garrus have the best. Your average for that part was less than 2, so one died.

[Iezza]

Dont understand the "hold the line" bit. some help?

[michael99887766]

Iezza wrote...

Dont understand the "hold the line" bit. some help?

The squad members left to hold the door before you go to fight the Reaper have to have a certain combined strength. You can maximise this by removing the weaker squad members (e.g. Mordin, Tali etc.) from this lineup. Do this by sending them to escort the crew back to the Normandy, or taking them with you in your squad. There's an excellent article on Mass Effect Wiki which explains exactly how to get the perfect ending.

[RooshTheGiant]

Ahhh, fabulous guide. I freaked out a while back when Miranda wasn't loyal before the Suicide Mission. I left her behind with Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus, and the like and took Thane and Samara with me to the final mission.

I was freaking out, man.

[Ralphi]

Thanks to you kind person I completed the game without any deaths.. OFF Topic :should I buy ME3 ?

[someone else]

[doublepost]

Modifié par someone else, 28 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[someone else]

Ralphi wrote...

Thanks to you kind person I completed the game without any deaths.. OFF Topic :should I buy ME3 ?

The game is almost unanimously agreed to be great right up to the final 10 minutes where opinions diverge in two very vehemently opposed directions - depending on which camp you fall into, you may need therapy, drugs or a new hobby. 

Modifié par someone else, 28 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[Nithraril]

Hi

I'm looking for a particular outcome for the suicide mission. I would like to keep only Tali, Jack and Morinth. 

Normal recruting except
Legion -> Given to Cerberus
Grunt -> Still in his tank
Zaeed -> not recruted (kill after)

Normandy's Upgrade : Armor
Loyalty mission :
Tali
Samara: To get Morinth
Kasumi (to get the Locust ^^ )
Jack
It my second playthrough with my renegade Sherpard, he is already level 30, so I don't care for the extra XP of the other mission

-------THE APPROACH----------------------------------------------------
Armor Check: ok

Shield Check (squad Tali & Kasumi)
Thane: Dead

Weapon check
Garrus: Dead


---------THE BASE-----------------------------------
The Vents
Specialist: Mordin
Fire team: Miranda
-> Mordin Dead

The Long Walk
Specialist: Miranda
squad : Tali (L) & Jacob
Fire team : Kasumi (L)
Escort : Jack (L)
-> Kasumi & Mordin Dead

--------THE END GAME----------------------------
Final Fight
Squad Tali (L) & Morinth (L)

Hold The Line
Miranda -> Dead


It seems to be possible this way, or did i miss something ?

Modifié par Nithraril, 31 mars 2012 - 05:29 .

[NothingToSay]

I don't know if the question has been answered but do I need every character in my crew in order for everyone to survive? In my 2nd playthrough (in well over a year) I didn't have Zaeed or Legion and a loyal Samara died after leading the fireteam on the part that requires a powerful Biotic.

[Nychter]

Any way to orchestrate this?

Lives:
Miranda, Garrus, Mordin, Thane, Additional Crew including Kelly Chambers

Dies:
Jacob, Jack, Grunt, Tali, Legion, Samara, Kasumi, Zaeed


If it makes it easier, adjustments can be made to the fates of Thane, Jacob, and/or Samara.

Modifié par Nychter, 13 avril 2012 - 07:16 .

[Peterrrrr]

Soon I will start to play ME1 as 100% Renegade and will do it also on ME2.

1. If I have undertsnad it right you cant just complete the suicide mission with just Shepard surviving? You need two squadmates?

2. So If question 1 is correct, Im going to choose the two most renegade squadmates, I have already choose one and it is Morinth So wich Squadmate should I choose as the second?

[p.W]

Back when I first played the game, I got a weird result that I haven't been able to replicate in the calculator or by the flowcharts.

This is what I know for a fact: I had everyone but Zaeed, and of those, everyone but Miranda was loyal. Legion was carried off by the seeker swarms, Mordin died holding the line, and Miranda and Garrus went with me to the final fight. All good so far. And then Miranda and Garrus both died.

Legion died because Miranda was my biotic spec, Mordin died due to low HTL score, Miranda died due to being unloyal at the final fight... but Garrus? Why? How? It doesn't make any sense, but I'm positive that it happened.

If anyone could shed some light on this mystery, it would be much appreciated.

[Jitawa]

Pacifien wrote...

Jitawa wrote...

Hmm.. the original guide for "Only Legion and Tali survive" in the links predates the addition of Kasumi.

Yes, that's how long we've been working on this guide, since before Kasumi.   (It even says "hope Grunt dies," because we didn't even know if it was random or not.)

I think it's an easy enough fix, though. At a glance, I'd say you'd just screw up Samara's loyalty mission by scaring Morinth off. Without upgrading the shields, Kasumi is first in line to die. Garrus will need to be taken by the Seeker Swarms then, so plan for that. Use Grunt as the second fireteam leader. Bring Samara and Miranda to the final boss.

Clever.  Is there anyway to have the Crew and Chakwas die too, and only go forward with a loyal Tali and Legion?  I'm not sure how much taking the non-loyal Zaeed off escort duty would screw things up.  If it wound up being Tali, Legion, and Zaeed - then I could kill him after by doing his loyalty quest... but I'm not sure how much a defender like him screws things up.