591 Antworten in diesem Thema

[themikefest]

 
That chart really is useful.
What is everyone else here using to calibrate calculate the outcome?
 

I use this

[themikefest]

Will Shepard die if there are only two non-loyal squadmates and both are taken to face the Reaper?

No.

 

It will be either be a squadmate that held the line or the squadmate that escorted the crew back. I have no idea how its determined who that squadmate that helps Shepard into the Normandy

[Vazgen]

Nice! Hehehe...

[themikefest]

I just finished the suicide mission to see how many squadmates can die if all are loyal. Its 7. What I did is kill off the strongest to leave the weakest to hold the line

 

Jack, Legion and Thane dead because of no upgrades for the ship

Garrus died being sent in the vent

Samara was sent back with the crew

seeker swarm took Grunt

Zaeed died as 2nd fireteam leader

Miranda and Jacob survive fighting reaper

Mordin, Tali and Kasumi left to hold the line. Only Mordin died.

 

Miranda, Tali, Kasumi, Jacob and Samara survived.

[niniendowarrior]

I just realized the link for the flow chart in the first post isn't working anymore. Anyone know why? I downloaded a copy awhile ago and could link it, but I don't want to if the creator didn't want it or if something from the flow chart is wrong.

 

I did some googling to find another copy of the image just in case people are looking for the image.

 

http://i.stack.imgur.com/Axg2o.jpg

[RedCaesar97]

I just finished the suicide mission to see how many squadmates can die if all are loyal. Its 7. What I did is kill off the strongest to leave the weakest to hold the line

 

Jack, Legion and Thane dead because of no upgrades for the ship

 

That's odd. I thought Kasumi always died if you did not upgrade the ship's shields.

[themikefest]

That's odd. I thought Kasumi always died if you did not upgrade the ship's shields.

I took her to fight the oculus leaving Legion as the next one in line to be killed without having any shields

[RedCaesar97]

I took her to fight the oculus leaving Legion as the next one in line to be killed without having any shields

 

Oh right. Forgot about that. My bad. I guess it shows how often I kill Kasumi

[congokong]

It is funny how you could do the suicide mission with zero casualties (even the crew) with only 3 loyal squad mates. Ex: Legion, Garrus, Samara

Send Legion into the vents and have Garrus be the second squad leader. Have Samara put up the barrier with Garrus leading again, and have Legion escort the crew back. Then go with Samara and Garrus to face the human reaper. Just make sure Zaeed and Grunt were recruited. Done. No deaths.

[AlanC9]

You sure? Looks to me like your HtL score would be a bit low.

[themikefest]

It is funny how you could do the suicide mission with zero casualties (even the crew) with only 3 loyal squad mates. Ex: Legion, Garrus, Samara

If you recruited all squadmates, that would not be possible. If anything Mordin, Tali and Kasumi would most likely die holding the line.

I've tried a playthrough to see how many loyalty missions need to be done for all to survive. It was 7 that need to be loyal. Here's the details.
 

Send Legion into the vents and have Garrus be the second squad leader. Have Samara put up the barrier with Garrus leading again, and have Legion escort the crew back. Then go with Samara and Garrus to face the human reaper. Just make sure Zaeed and Grunt were recruited. Done. No deaths.

I fine that hard to believe. Even if you only recruited the minimum, 8, someone would still die. Going by what you posted, you had at least 9. At the very least Mordin would die holding the line and possibly Jack as well.

[congokong]

If you recruited all squadmates, that would not be possible. If anything Mordin, Tali and Kasumi would most likely die holding the line.
I've tried a playthrough to see how many loyalty missions need to be done for all to survive. It was 7 that need to be loyal. Here's the details.


I fine that hard to believe. Even if you only recruited the minimum, 8, someone would still die. Going by what you posted, you had at least 9. At the very least Mordin would die holding the line and possibly Jack as well.

I do not believe anyone dies holding the line as long as you leave behind two of the three defenders (Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus). Am I wrong? And my assumption is they were all recruited, just not loyal. With your wild playthroughs, you probably know better than me.

[themikefest]

I do not believe anyone dies holding the line as long as you leave behind two of the three defenders (Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus). Am I wrong? And my assumption is they were all recruited, just not loyal. With your wild playthroughs, you probably know better than me.

You can have two of those three holding the line and still have someone die. It happened in the link I posted. It also depends on the number holding the line and who's loyal. For all to survive, each has to have an average of two. If not, someone will die starting with the one's that are not loyal and then with the weakest.

[congokong]

You can have two of those three holding the line and still have someone die. It happened in the link I posted. It also depends on the number holding the line and who's loyal. For all to survive, each has to have an average of two. If not, someone will die starting with the one's that are not loyal and then with the weakest.

Thanks. I apparently did not know what I was talking about.

[simonrana]

I only consider Morinth evil to be honest.

If Grunt isn't evil he's pretty close. I just did Thane's recruitment mission last night with him and he got all pissy because I healed an old defenceless dock worker. Like what is wrong with you dude?!

Add that his character growth is pretty much learning to hate races and he has no interests beyond killing things I'd say there's plenty of justification for considering him an evil character.

[ajburges]

So,

 

Not realizing that there was already a calculator, I blew a day formatting a Google sheet to determine who lives and dies. Not sure if anyone would find utility with this, but I'll post it anyway.

 

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

 

Let me know if there are issues.

 

Word of warning. If you copy it, don't duplicate the primary sheet. Named ranges do not copy well.

 

If anyone knows how to perform data validation against an array, I can knock out the calculation columns.

[DMc1001]

If Grunt isn't evil he's pretty close. I just did Thane's recruitment mission last night with him and he got all pissy because I healed an old defenceless dock worker. Like what is wrong with you dude?!

Add that his character growth is pretty much learning to hate races and he has no interests beyond killing things I'd say there's plenty of justification for considering him an evil character.

How is Grunt evil?  I just don't see it.  He's no worse than Ashley.  His behavior is krogan-like but if you play ME3 you know he's a devotee of Shepard and all-in to defend races other than krogan or humans.