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Mass Effect 2's Suicide Mission Guide - *Everything* about the final mission.


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Ieldra2 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Shepard dies while that squadmate calls shotgun.

The're no death scene for that final squadmate in the video.

I've been told that some players have seen a scenario where Miranda as the only surviving team member vanishes into the Normandy but doesn't help Shepard up because the game creates a Shepard dies scenario if less than two survive, resulting in a "Miranda survives and Shepard dies" scenario. I don't play "Shepard dies" scenarios, can anyone conclusively confirm or deny that?

But I just...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
There is a thread dating back a year prior where the poster humorously blasts Thane for having rushed back into the Normandy was his/her Femshep was left to dangle and eventually fall to her death. The joke being that player had a romance with Thane and evidently it meant more to Femshep than Thane.

Apparently, you can accomplish this by killing off everyone except one of the squadmates you bring to fight Baby-Reaperminator. What becomes of the individual is anyone's guess. My assumption is it was either an intentional easter egg by BioWare for the hilarity of Shepard being abandoned, or it was an oversight.

For the aforementioned thread. Thane is a JERK.

But I... just... link... what... but... WHY?!

Modifié par Pacifien, 09 février 2011 - 12:51 .


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maitreikrit2 wrote...
In my actual playthrough I wish only girls survivor :  tali,miranda, kasumi, samara,   legion sells to cerberus  what's the combinaison to have this result ?
It's possible this combinaison ?

Girl Power!

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Pacifien wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Shepard dies while that squadmate calls shotgun.

The're no death scene for that final squadmate in the video.

I've been told that some players have seen a scenario where Miranda as the only surviving team member vanishes into the Normandy but doesn't help Shepard up because the game creates a Shepard dies scenario if less than two survive, resulting in a "Miranda survives and Shepard dies" scenario. I don't play "Shepard dies" scenarios, can anyone conclusively confirm or deny that?

But I just...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
There is a thread dating back a year prior where the poster humorously blasts Thane for having rushed back into the Normandy was his/her Femshep was left to dangle and eventually fall to her death. The joke being that player had a romance with Thane and evidently it meant more to Femshep than Thane.

Apparently, you can accomplish this by killing off everyone except one of the squadmates you bring to fight Baby-Reaperminator. What becomes of the individual is anyone's guess. My assumption is it was either an intentional easter egg by BioWare for the hilarity of Shepard being abandoned, or it was an oversight.

For the aforementioned thread. Thane is a JERK.

But I... just... link... what... but... WHY?!


Don't worry Pacifien, some people never bother reading threads. :unsure:

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Pacifien, look at this!

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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Pacifien, look at this!

Science! I love it.

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Pacifien wrote...

maitreikrit2 wrote...
In my actual playthrough I wish only girls survivor :  tali,miranda, kasumi, samara,   legion sells to cerberus  what's the combinaison to have this result ?
It's possible this combinaison ?

Girl Power!

thanks a lot :P

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On my "virgin" playthrough of ME2 — completed two nights ago — I lost Tali, Mordin, Zaeed and half of Normandy's crew. Not bad for a scrub. Unsatisified, though, I came here, used that glorious flowchart, and kept my entire team alive.

I messed up the first time by having an unloyal Miranda lead the alpha fire team (I had her loyalty, then lost it after that catfight with Jack). So, eat my grits, Miranda! You loser!

I then lost Zaeed because he wasn't loyal, and died leading the surviving crew members back to the Normandy.

Last, I lost Mordin because I took too many of the "heavy hitters" with me on the final confrontation.

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Don't you have to upgrade Jack's biotics in order for her to be able to hold the shield? I seem to remember someone telling me this. Somewhere.

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Rafe34 wrote...
Don't you have to upgrade Jack's biotics in order for her to be able to hold the shield? I seem to remember someone telling me this. Somewhere.

I test this once. You don't need her upgrade in order for her to hold the shield. The only upgrades that matter are the ones for the Normandy.

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Rafe34 wrote...

Don't you have to upgrade Jack's biotics in order for her to be able to hold the shield? I seem to remember someone telling me this. Somewhere.

Nope, that was just one of the 'speculations' people had when the game first came out. As long as she is loyal she'll be fine. Course upgrading her biotic really isn't hard on a playthrough after the initial one as you have more than enough Element Zero from the start, so if got Mordin already you can just go talk to Jack, investigate about upgrades and job is a good one. Means she has more biotic power for fights, which is always good.

One playthrough away from my 'Insanity worse playthrough (where Shep survives)' "it will be beauuuuutiful... only an unloyal Zaeed and Kasumi surviving along with Joker :D

'Default' FemShep ME background but with alteration of the VS being Ashley.
Loyal
Jacob and Garrus (can't see either of their loyalty missions having anything significant in ME3)
Un-loyal due to mission screw-up
Thane (not updated), Tali (evidence handed in), Samara (will be completely and utterly dull at the VIP lounge so she leaves without even talking to Shep)
Un-loyal mission not done
Zaeed, Kasumi, Miranda, Mordin, Grunt, Jack (hence the earlier italicised comment)
not activated but not sent to Cerberus
Duh... only one squaddy this could be... Legion
No Ship Upgrades, ship deaths
Armor - Jack (obviously)
Shields - Thane (taking Kasumi and Tali to the Occulus fight)
Cannon - Garrus (Guess he didn't finish those calibrations :P )
Suicide Mission
Vents Runner and TL Mordin and Grunt (latter because I want to see what Miranda has to say) :P
Biotic, Long Walk Team and 2nd TL Samara, Zaeed and Jacob, Grunt = latter 2 dead due to swarm and Grunt not being such a badass Krogan after all :P
Final Battle Samara and Miranda
Hold the Line team Zaeed, Kasumi and Tali = 3 points = 1.0 average score = 1 squadmate death... adios Tali

So that all means that there is still a sex crazed murderer on the loose without any true knowledge of Shepard, thus just a footnote no doubt in ME3, Kolyat is now an Assassin, Quarians are possibly frelled due to them being in conflict with one another over Rael'Zorahs actions, Miranda's father can continue his dynasty, Vito still has that refinery (well till Zaeed goes try taking it on solo possibly?), Hock still has Keiji's Graybox, Aresh is still possibly looking to restart the Teltin Facility, Uvenk is still alive as is Clan Weyrloc who are looking into a genophage cure so their bloodpack can go nuts and Urdnot has that fool Wreav in charge of them. That screams 'recipe for disaster' to me :D

Well, that's what am going for anyway, got to admit I'll be a bit annoyed if these choices don't bite me in the butt :P anyone who messes up this badly during their adventures in ME2 deserves to be punished in ME3, BRING IT ON :D

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would it be possible to get morinth grunt zaeed and jack selling legion and failing tali and thane's LMs?

Modifié par kiwi_x1, 12 février 2011 - 01:59 .


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Is it possible to get Jack Grunt Morinth and Zaeed only. I havent recruited Zaeed yet and im going to sell legion and screw up Thane and Tali's LMs

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Something like this?

(Note: I set Miranda to "not loyal" since a loyal Miranda can't die. In other words, if you want to kill Miranda, either don't do her loyalty mission or do both hers and Jack's, and then side with Jack.)


Or maybe this, assuming you first recruit Zaeed and do his mission.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 13 février 2011 - 02:04 .


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I just finished my Insanity run and while the suicide mission was quite literally a massacre, unloyal Grunt and unloyal Zaeed managed to hold the line on their own, saving my ass unexpectedly.

By the way, I never play on Insanity; I only did it for the achievement and I will never do it again. No one was loyal. Samara and Thane weren't recruited. I essentially rushed through the whole thing like crazy. Yet, Grunt and Zaeed saved me. :P

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Well i just completed my second Suicide Mission run or should i say second Shepard. I still have DLC to do, i decided to save that for after Suicide Mission plus the side missions. But i did get the lvl 30 achievement from the XP boost and doing all loyalty missions only, got it on Suicide Mission :D


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This is just amazing, may help me realize why I lost Miranda. The chart reminds me of kismet, the visual programming language of the unreal engine :)

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Finished the ME2 a couple of days ago and found the finishing three hours extremely exciting. Lost Thane in the ventilation (sounds lika suicide mission - Thane, aren't you dying anyway?, I thougt) but everyone else came out alright. Exciting as it was I was later a little bit disapointed as I thought that upgrading the ship was a bit...easy to understand when I saw that everybody wanted to upgrade the ship.

"Why does everybody wanna upgrade the ship when it can't really be controlled in the game....aha!"

Also the loyalty system was also a bit to fundamentaly easy to understand. If I would write a wish list then if you go with the nice paragon choices and get's everybodys loyalty then people should die because of that. Imagine that Jack has become loyal and so starts to help...ahhh...let's say, Tali in a situation when Tali gets shot and needs help. In normal case someone tough helps her but as Jack is loyal and you're a nice guy she takes after you and decide to help instead of some tougher guy and as a reward gets a bullet in the head. I'm hoping that choices that at first seems unrelated to someone decides whether someone later dies in the game - much later (so you actually have to take the consequense of your earlier choices).

But that's beside the point. My reason to post here is this: for my second time through both ME1 and 2 I will be aiming to only have Garrus and Tali (the only two characters I actually like) and the crew surviving the second game and thus also saving Shepard.

Now, according to the suicidalflowchart posted on the first page in this topic I think I should go about it this way (I don't have acess to any extra characters BTW):

1. Get Tali's and Garrus loyalty.
2. Upgrade the Normandy's cannons and thus getting Jack and Legion dead.
3. Send Jacob in the vents. He dies.
4. Let Miranda have the bubble. In my team I will have Grunt and Tali. Grunt bites it.
5. Determine our good doctor to be the best team leader. Surprisingly he dies.
6. Miranda gets to protect the crew. he dies and the crew survives.
Now it get a bit harder to know the result.
7. Bring Garrus and Tali to kill gigant Arnold-terminator.
8. Thus I'm leaving Samara and the Assasin to defend the line. Hopefully they die.
9. Garrus and Tali pulls Shepard into the Normandy.

In the first game I'm also killing of Wrex and let Kaidan survive while still playing the nice guy in both game.

Have I understood the flow chart correctly? Or should I bring the assassin and Tali with me to fight Arnold and hope that Garrus survives?

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Pacifien wrote...

- Kasumi and Morinth - Deemed the Worst Possible Playthrough

- Morinth and Thane - Worst Possible Playthrough, Take 2



I disagree.:devil:

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Im playing for like... 5th time.

I did IFF mission while i had 3 loyalty missions and also Overlord and Shadow broker not done.



I did the shadow broker mission and then when i clicked 'dock' for legion's mission i got the attack... i though i really want legion alive so i did his quest (well that's half the crew dead).



And i also almost forgot to do the multicore shielding after Tali's quest.



So its not always super easy to make eveyrone survive.

You are bound to forget something and kill off the one u want alive.

*shakes fist at EDI* Why test it NOW!?

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Biotic_Warlock wrote... So its not always super easy to make eveyrone survive.
You are bound to forget something and kill off the one u want alive.
*shakes fist at EDI* Why test it NOW!?


And yet it can be very easy to kill off those you DON'T want. On my last playthrough I had to make sure every human squaddie died. Hearing Zaeed sacrifice himself for the crew was funny since people had a tendency to die while he remained unscathed on missions before he met Shepard.

Offtopic: I miss the mood music from the old thread :(

Modifié par LordPennlocke, 19 février 2011 - 08:31 .


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LordPennlocke wrote...

Offtopic: I miss the mood music from the old thread :(


Let me try it out something.




Modifié par Mesina2, 19 février 2011 - 02:55 .


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Don't know how to make it autoplay but if Pacifen wants to do it here's link for embed:





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Wow, I must be awesomer than I thought...just completed my first playthrough and nobody died at all, got the No One Left Behind trophy! I didn't even realize that many people could die, it'd be interesting to see if you could win without getting anyone's loyalty and no upgrades for the Normandy.

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^You can, long enough Grunt, Zaeed or Garrus is holding the line and with them anyone, you'll survive.

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after the "girl's power I wish "man power " with Miranda LI what's the combinaison please , in normandy I don't upgrade armor/shield  only Thanix cannon