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[Dave of Canada]

Brockololly wrote...
If you don't care then why respond?

She'll keep posting about it in all unrelated threads until they get locked for being off-topic, as we already are, and then disappear and do it again. If she just wants to cry about "EAware", she should make her own thread instead of going into unrelated threads and taking unrelated posts and going on her crusade in a place where nobody really cares.

At least if she started a thread, I'd be able to ignore it quite easily because I've heard it all before a thousand and two times. My "Nobody cares" comment is more related to nobody cares in unrelated threads.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:16 .

[Iberius]

The Masked Rog wrote...

Obviously the solution is just throw more money at it. Have you considered they may have the exact number of companions they wanted to have?

Lol I know right......God forbid they had it all planned out to start with

[HTTP 404]

Brockololly wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...
what bioware should do is make it possible to re-spec characters rather than just add more.

I imagine given how they've Hot Rod Samurai'd all the animations, that wouldn't work too well. Seeing as all the races and males and females have separate rigs, Isabela as a DW rogue wouldn't necessarily translate to Varric flipping and twirling around as a male dwarf DW rogue unless they made those animations work for that rig.

But yeah, re-spec  is a good thing.

I see your point in re-spec a varric to fight more like Isabela can be awkward.

Let's hope that disagreeing with a character makes for good conflict if you dislike Isabela but she fits in your combat style during the story.  Kinda like having a diva playmaker on your football team but learn to deal with it because they are good. 

[Felfenix]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

That's good. They spread the butter too thin on the bread with ME2 I think

This. Sometimes you can't have both quality and quantity, especially with Bioware who frequently likes to cite their limited budget. I'd much rather have quality than quantity.

[Seb Hanlon]

I'd like to take a moment on this snowy Friday afternoon to remind people, several of whom should know better by now, about the site rules relating to personal attacks, insults, and dragging threads off-topic.

Shorter site rules: Don't be a jerk.

Longer site rules: 
Site Rules

Modifié par Seb Hanlon, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:22 .

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Beerfish wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

More than what? Thats just logic and truth.

Not really.

Oh right I forgot Bio fanboys are completely devoid of logic. My bad. Fact: Bioware wasn't this small little independant indy dev that got swallowed up by the big bad EA, no matter how many times you guys tell yourselves differently.

Once again, as you always do in every discussion I've ever seen you in you take your argument and flush it down the toilet by sounding thoroughly bitter and pulling out the 'fanboy' term.  If you want to use that label so freely on anyone that still has a good thing to say about them then call yourself a troll because it would have about the same level of accuracy.  For once in your life, make a point in a logical way, stick to your point and don't come off sounding like a whiney female dog.

(I happen to agree with your assessment of the whole Riccetelo thing.)

C'mon Beer, what else do you call the same group of  people who defend every little design decision and attack anyone who doesn't love the direction DA2 is taking? Objective?

[lv12medic]

HTTP 404 wrote...

Let's hope that disagreeing with a character makes for good conflict if you dislike Isabela but she fits in
your combat style during the story.  Kinda like having a diva playmakeron your football team but learn to deal with it because they are good. 

I thought it was said somewhere in some other long lost thread that Rival people will get bonuses that buff themselves while Friendship people get bonuses to buff the team.  So there's some game mechanics to supporting that idea.
*edit* They get different buffs apparently, but not self/team buff based. *end edit*

Anyways, as for respecing companions, how would that even work besides the
animation issues?  The companions have what, one weapon tree accessible, one unique specialization type tree and access to general talent trees.  Re-specing would be pointless beyond building the character
slightly different because they'll always be stuck with their one weapon style.

Unless people get the Modding demo hammer out and go bannanas.
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Modifié par lv12medic, 28 janvier 2011 - 10:08 .

[upsettingshorts]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

C'mon Beer, what else do you call the same group of  people who defend every little design decision and attack anyone who doesn't love the direction DA2 is taking? Objective?

There are maybe three of these people on the entire forums. 

Most just happen to either like or be indifferent towards specific directions you dislike the most.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:25 .

[JrayM16]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

More than what? Thats just logic and truth.

Not really.

Oh right I forgot Bio fanboys are completely devoid of logic. My bad. Fact: Bioware wasn't this small little independant indy dev that got swallowed up by the big bad EA, no matter how many times you guys tell yourselves differently.

Once again, as you always do in every discussion I've ever seen you in you take your argument and flush it down the toilet by sounding thoroughly bitter and pulling out the 'fanboy' term.  If you want to use that label so freely on anyone that still has a good thing to say about them then call yourself a troll because it would have about the same level of accuracy.  For once in your life, make a point in a logical way, stick to your point and don't come off sounding like a whiney female dog.

(I happen to agree with your assessment of the whole Riccetelo thing.)

C'mon Beer, what else do you call the same group of  people who defend every little design decision and attack anyone who doesn't love the direction DA2 is taking? Objective?

How about just saying that you feel they are wrong and explaining why you think so?  You know, an actual argument.

Modifié par JrayM16, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:30 .

[Dhiro]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

More than what? Thats just logic and truth.

Not really.

Oh right I forgot Bio fanboys are completely devoid of logic. My bad. Fact: Bioware wasn't this small little independant indy dev that got swallowed up by the big bad EA, no matter how many times you guys tell yourselves differently.

Once again, as you always do in every discussion I've ever seen you in you take your argument and flush it down the toilet by sounding thoroughly bitter and pulling out the 'fanboy' term.  If you want to use that label so freely on anyone that still has a good thing to say about them then call yourself a troll because it would have about the same level of accuracy.  For once in your life, make a point in a logical way, stick to your point and don't come off sounding like a whiney female dog.

(I happen to agree with your assessment of the whole Riccetelo thing.)

C'mon Beer, what else do you call the same group of  people who defend every little design decision and attack anyone who doesn't love the direction DA2 is taking? Objective?

Nicer things than one would call someone who enter threads just to say how a game suck, obviously for the lulz. Not that I'm implying something, of course.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

[Dhiro]

They made a decision - stand with EA. Maybe you're finding it too hard to understand? Do you want me to teach you? My teacher said I'm good teaching things for the little kids in the school, maybe I can try something like this with you? I don't know, it could work :<

[JrayM16]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

Again, no one is saying it's EA's fault except you(atleast in this thread.)  It is also largely inadvisable for devs to remain independent in bad economic times.

[HTTP 404]

lv12medic wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

Let's hope that disagreeing with a character makes for good conflict if you dislike Isabela but she fits in
your combat style during the story.  Kinda like having a diva playmakeron your football team but learn to deal with it because they are good. 

I thought it was said somewhere in some other long lost thread that Rival people will get bonuses that buff themselves while Friendship people get bonuses to buff the team.  So there's some game mechanics to supporting that idea.

Anyways, as for respecing companions, how would that even work besides the
animation issues?  The companions have what, one weapon tree accessible, one unique specialization type tree and access to general talent trees.  Re-specing would be pointless beyond building the character
slightly different because they'll always be stuck with their one weapon style.

Unless people get the Modding demo hammer out and go bannanas.
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Bold: That would be pretty cool.  Is there a link to that thread? or can a dev confirm this?

also, we should drop the name calling and insults, its convoluting this thread.

Modifié par HTTP 404, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:34 .

[Dhiro]

Actually, IIRC, Varric gets buff to himself in Rival mode, and buffs to all the party in Friendly mode. I don't think it's true for every companion, though.

[Osena109]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

 if you want to    spew disdain for Bios  business decision make your own tread  and  get out of  mine

Modifié par Osena109, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:35 .

[upsettingshorts]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways

This is only a problem if we accept your premise, and we do not.  You must understand this by now.

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

the dumb your rpg's down express

This is the premise people are disputing, just as a refresher. We could go into precisely how and why this premise is disputed, but that would lead to yet another "what is an RPG?" discussion.  Suffice to say that the critics who people respect (like say, Sylvius) and don't automatically presume are trolling (you) at the very least implicitly acknowledge intelligent people may enjoy the direction BioWare has taken, if not explicitly say just that. 

In review, this is not a "have it both ways" problem.  It is a "have it different ways" problem in which you are unable to or incapable of recognizing the other points of view as valid ones.  And that's why, aside from a few specific like-minded posters, you persistently fail to gain support in threads like these.

[Dave of Canada]

HTTP 404 wrote...

Bold: That would be pretty cool.  Is there a link to that thread? or can a dev confirm this?

I can't find it, though a preview said that Varric got a minor buff for everybody in the party when he was friends with Hawke but when he was a rival he got a bigger buff for himself only. It makes sense, as a friendly rival would try to outpeform me irl while a friend would try to help me.

[Saibh]

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

Modifié par Saibh, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:36 .

[HTTP 404]

Dhiro wrote...

Actually, IIRC, Varric gets buff to himself in Rival mode, and buffs to all the party in Friendly mode. I don't think it's true for every companion, though.

ah well its a pretty good idea imo, I hope every companion gets it.  That way I dont have to worry about impressing everyone.

[Ryzaki]

Cool cat?

[Dhiro]

Hm. True.



Sorry, Mr. Seb :<

[Saibh]

Ryzaki wrote...

Cool cat?

Word.

[lv12medic]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent.

Which would require them to negotiate game after game with a publisher for any new projects they wish to embark on.  Bioware is successful enough that funding and finding a publisher probably would not be a big issue, but is still an issue independent development studios have to deal with.

So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

I haven't seen any evidence to prove this "dumbing down" of RPG's.  Unless dumbing down means experimenting and changing things up one game to the next.  Probably since Neverwinter Nights, I don't think any game Bioware has developed has been the same thing as games previous, including sequels to their own IP's.