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[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

JrayM16 wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

Again, no one is saying it's EA's fault except you(atleast in this thread.)  It is also largely inadvisable for devs to remain independent in bad economic times.

You guys do it all the time with excuse after excuse, shorter dev cycle, less budget, yada yada yada. Then get your underwear all in a bunch when someone points that out, and start name calling. It happens every time just like clock work.

[JrayM16]

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

You're right, we should reign this in. 

As I have said, 7 party members is a pretty good amount I feel.

[Saibh]

filaminstrel wrote...

I didn't ignore Seb. :<

Then you get Cool Cat glasses.

[Osena109]

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

i should rename it  lets talk about off topic things and spew  our  stupidity and   ignorance:police:

Modifié par Osena109, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:39 .

[Saibh]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

You guys do it all the time with excuse after excuse, shorter dev cycle, less budget, yada yada yada. Then get your underwear all in a bunch when someone points that out, and start name calling. It happens every time just like clock work.

EA does not have unlimited resources. They make many games. Yes, they are an extremely wealthy company, but all of that wealth is not devoted to BioWare.

You see it as an excuse, I see it as a reason. A reason that needs to be kept repeated because others see it as an excuse.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

lv12medic wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent.

Which would require them to negotiate game after game with a publisher for any new projects they wish to embark on.  Bioware is successful enough that funding and finding a publisher probably would not be a big issue, but is still an issue independent development studios have to deal with.

So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

I haven't seen any evidence to prove this "dumbing down" of RPG's.  Unless dumbing down means experimenting and changing things up one game to the next.  Probably since Neverwinter Nights, I don't think any game Bioware has developed has been the same thing as games previous, including sequels to their own IP's.

Shorter game, far far less customization, paraphrasing & voice overs, the list of questionable design decisions and "streamlining" for the masses goes on and on.

[JrayM16]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

Again, no one is saying it's EA's fault except you(atleast in this thread.)  It is also largely inadvisable for devs to remain independent in bad economic times.

You guys do it all the time with excuse after excuse, shorter dev cycle, less budget, yada yada yada. Then get your underwear all in a bunch when someone points that out, and start name calling. It happens every time just like clock work.

Except that we weren't really talking about until you brought it up in a thread which only barely related to what you were saying.  You also started the name calling, got your "underwear in a bunch" before anyone else, and so on.  But I'm used to that ofcourse.  "It happens every time just like clockwork."

[Dhiro]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

All I'm saying is you folks can't have it both ways, Bioware had control of their own destiny and could have remained independent. So when they're called out on signing on for the dumb your rpg's down express, they're not blameless in it, just because EA's their parent now.

Again, no one is saying it's EA's fault except you(atleast in this thread.)  It is also largely inadvisable for devs to remain independent in bad economic times.

You guys do it all the time with excuse after excuse, shorter dev cycle, less budget, yada yada yada. Then get your underwear all in a bunch when someone points that out, and start name calling. It happens every time just like clock work.

If you know this will happen, why do you post here, anyway? Except if you love the attention I don't see any reason to keep going here, as you don't even try to be more sensible in your arguments.

[Ryzaki]

...This thread is baffling me.

[Dhiro]

A-ny-wui.



I like the 7 party members. Most of them please me, anyway, and I'm happy they'll have more personality and such because of this ~

[JrayM16]

Ryzaki wrote...

...This thread is baffling me.

It's OK.  We're all in this together.

[Morroian]

JrayM16 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

You're right, we should reign this in. 

As I have said, 7 party members is a pretty good amount I feel.

I don't see what wrong with 7 either especially since the interactions are likely to be more complex than in DAO. Plus I reckon from the hints about what BW want to do with DLC that there is a chance other companions could be added via that route.

[themageguy]

i think 7 companions is plenty. We even get a blood mage dalish mage companion!

[upsettingshorts]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Shorter game, far far less customization, paraphrasing & voice overs, the list of questionable design decisions and "streamlining" for the masses goes on and on.

Dragging the thread off-topic into a discussion about what makes an RPG by citing design decisions as objectively Y despite their being subjectively X, goes on and on...

...anyway, I'd like to make an on-topic comment, but I think I said my piece in my first post in the thread.  Obviously I hope that the lower number of companions directly correlates with more content per companion, but that is by no means assured.  

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:45 .

[The Elder King]

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.

The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

[Osena109]

Morroian wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

You're right, we should reign this in. 

As I have said, 7 party members is a pretty good amount I feel.

I don't see what wrong with 7 either especially since the interactions are likely to be more complex than in DAO. Plus I reckon from the hints about what BW want to do with DLC that there is a chance other companions could be added via that route.

 we need more   7 party members  reminds me of  the  magnificent seven   or seven samurai  going in to battle   and so on lol  and only 3 live

Modifié par Osena109, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:47 .

[Dhiro]

hhh89 wrote...

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.
The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

I think we'll get Nathaniel (because Pirate Laidlaw is, liek, REALLY SUBTLE RITE?). I'd love it. It's a shame he can't be a party member, though, I like him way more than Anders.

[JrayM16]

hhh89 wrote...

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.
The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

I also like temporary companions.  They can be a good opportunity to have larger-scale battles since you can have way over-levelled  temporary companions.

[Morroian]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

I'd like to take a moment on this snowy Friday afternoon to remind people, several of whom should know better by now, about the site rules relating to personal attacks, insults, and dragging threads off-topic.

Shorter site rules: Don't be a jerk.

Longer site rules: 
Site Rules

Given that its only 1 person dragging the thread OT I hope you don't lock it, surely it would be preferable to warn that 1 person. 

[lv12medic]

hhh89 wrote...

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.
The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

I'm hoping that we get temporary companions that have atleast some substance to them (less than main companions but more to them than the ones in Origins).  DA:O only had them in the Origin stories where they usually get a one way ticket to a horrible death (along with Daveth and Jory), or exist purely to have a full party for combat (Ostagar tower defense troopers).

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

I should get the Fail Cat award... not only did I ignore Seb Hanlon a bit... (I may have been typing when his post came up)... But I read that as people were ignoring Sebastian, the DLC guy.

Modifié par lv12medic, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:53 .

[addiction21]

Saibh wrote...

It's cool that we just ignored Seb and kept arguing.

I propose we rename the thread Cool Cat Thread.

I would say its 50/50 shot that people listen to the mods when they step in like that. I am at the point I wish they would at least try deleting the posts, banning the habitual violaters who they warn on a daily basis, and not lock the thread.


As far as companions are concerned. If they are going to be playing a role in the story then I would like them to be as fleshed out as possible. If that means there are less companions because they have more depth then I am find with that.

[HTTP 404]

hhh89 wrote...

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.
The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

Im guessing we get mission specific companions.  Unfortunately it may not be an option to not have them in your party.  Im okay with it as I can work my party around whatever temp character joins but some people dont like that.

also Im curious if anyone knows about companions rivalry system.  I may just start a thread to find out.

[The Elder King]

Dhiro wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

This thread is probably going to be closed. Howewer, I try to return on topic.
The party in DA2 have only one party member less than DAO, and this was including Dog. Plus Bioware said that we're going to get some temporary companions, which is a thing I like.

I think we'll get Nathaniel (because Pirate Laidlaw is, liek, REALLY SUBTLE RITE?). I'd love it. It's a shame he can't be a party member, though, I like him way more than Anders.

We're not sure about Anders. Though I liked both in Awakening, my preferite party was formed by them plus Oghren.