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[Homey C-Dawg]

Pretty sure he just meant London. He says reports are coming in from other major cities, indicating that he is just referring to his own.

[In Exile]

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

It's even more ridiculous if it's only London. So it takes them a WHOLE week to wipe out a single city? Have you seen the size of those things?

And it took the Collectors just minutes to capture an entire colony.

 But they don't want to kill all of us - they could just drive an asteroid into earth and kill 100% or close to it of the population in minutes. They want us to make reaper goop.

[OmegaXI]

Sajuro wrote...

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

"It's a well coordinated attack."

What..? Really? Are the Reapers going door to door strangling people with pillows?

I mean, there were about what...100,000 immediate casualties when the nuke was dropped on Hiroshima and that was in the 40s! We're talking about the Reapers here - an ancient, spacefaring, hyper-advanced machine race of synthetics. Is that the best they could do? 

Ok, lets say you know 100 people on a familial or very good friend level, boom first day and they're all dead
lets say they each know 100 other people, boom all dead on first day
Your coworkers, assuming they weren't in the 100, all dead
the people at your favorite fast food restaurant, all dead
that uncle you never took the time to get to know, dead
lets say you take the bus, that attractive man/woman who you always wanted to talk to but could never muster up the courage, dead.
Your **** boss, dead
you get on the internet, lets say it is still up.
You go to facebook, if you have more than the first 100 people on your friends list, many of them haven't gotten on since the attack started, or they had frightening status updates, they're dead
next you go to Bioware Social networks, for the first time since Mass Effect came out people aren't b*itching and moaning there, no one is on because they are all dead.
You search the internet to try and find out what is going on, all you get are obituraries and interns filling in because all of the anchors,cameramen,producers,assistants, and make up artists are dead
suddenly, you lose internet connection and a husk is pounding on your door.
you still think the reapers are going too slow?

LMAO

[Sajuro]

In Exile wrote...

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

It's even more ridiculous if it's only London. So it takes them a WHOLE week to wipe out a single city? Have you seen the size of those things?

And it took the Collectors just minutes to capture an entire colony.

 But they don't want to kill all of us - they could just drive an asteroid into earth and kill 100% or close to it of the population in minutes. They want us to make reaper goop.

Only one asteroid? MOAR

[OmegaXI]

Or it could be humanity is giving them hell and going down fighting in a blaze of glory, I mean what if the Reapers have a preset daily kill limit like the Killbots from Futureruma. So if thats the case all humanity has to do is throw wave after wave at the Reapers each day to get the to that preset kill limit. That and come on it's humanitys fight for survival think humans are going to just go out with a whimper and a sigh. Hell no their going down swinging

[Dean_the_Young]

First rule of Mass Effect numbers: we don't trust Mass Effect numbers.



We only look at plot intent, not the hard numbers. Hard numbers suck donkey balls.

[OmegaXI]

And we don't know how bad the Turians are getting hit, or the Salarians for that matter I mean their females don't leave the home world that often so if their home world goes down then their race is pretty much done.

[SnakeStrike8]

9 million people dead in London is a HUGE number. And that's only London; we don't know how many are dying in other cities around the world. Reapers could be whacking Dresden, Singapore, Taipei, Calcutta, and Sao Paolo at the same time. The numbers will add up.

Modifié par SnakeStrike8, 29 janvier 2011 - 04:05 .

[Sajuro]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

9 million people dead in London is a HUGE number. And that's only London; we don't know how many are dying in other cities around the world. Reapers could be whacking Dresden, Singapore, Taipei, Calcutta, and Sao Paolo at the same time. The numbers will add up.

you forgot New York, Hollywood has taught me that any self respecting Aliens will attack New York first

[SnakeStrike8]

Sajuro wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

9 million people dead in London is a HUGE number. And that's only London; we don't know how many are dying in other cities around the world. Reapers could be whacking Dresden, Singapore, Taipei, Calcutta, and Sao Paolo at the same time. The numbers will add up.

you forgot New York, Hollywood has taught me that any self respecting Aliens will attack New York first

Yes, New York too.

[Sajuro]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

9 million people dead in London is a HUGE number. And that's only London; we don't know how many are dying in other cities around the world. Reapers could be whacking Dresden, Singapore, Taipei, Calcutta, and Sao Paolo at the same time. The numbers will add up.

you forgot New York, Hollywood has taught me that any self respecting Aliens will attack New York first

Yes, New York too.

Too bad the statue of liberty was already destroyed.

[OmegaXI]

Sajuro wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

9 million people dead in London is a HUGE number. And that's only London; we don't know how many are dying in other cities around the world. Reapers could be whacking Dresden, Singapore, Taipei, Calcutta, and Sao Paolo at the same time. The numbers will add up.

you forgot New York, Hollywood has taught me that any self respecting Aliens will attack New York first

Yes, New York too.

Too bad the statue of liberty was already destroyed.

They orginal yes but they rebuilt another one according to the codex

[Yakko77]

Xilizhra wrote...

B: The casualty report might only be talking about London.

That's what I  took from it as well.  No way the Reapers are that ineffeicient that "only" 7 million are dead planet wide in the first week.

[adam_grif]

If they wanted to destroy humanity quickly it's a pathetic number since only a fraction of the Earth is burning in the trailer (obviously just part of Europe, the rest of the world looks unaffected). An Ohio class submarine could get more than the 9 million mentioned in the trailer with a small fraction of its arsenal in under 30 minutes. Any spacefaring civilization could just smash an asteroid into the planet, too.



They must have ulterior motives.

[Sajuro]

adam_grif wrote...

If they wanted to destroy humanity quickly it's a pathetic number since only a fraction of the Earth is burning in the trailer (obviously just part of Europe, the rest of the world looks unaffected). An Ohio class submarine could get more than the 9 million mentioned in the trailer with a small fraction of its arsenal in under 30 minutes. Any spacefaring civilization could just smash an asteroid into the planet, too.

They must have ulterior motives.

And if they did show all of earth burning people would be posting, "why is all of earth on fire? I thought only London was being attacked.... PLOT HOLE"
My point is, with us Bioware cannot win.

[adam_grif]

I don't follow what you're saying. The prerelease materials hinted towards London being significant, and Europe is apparently under attack in the Trailer. The invasion obviously isn't as simple as "bomb everything". They must be after something or they wouldn't bother taking their time with one region at a time.



It could just be the systematic extermination while leaving as little evidence of it as possible, that would explain why "Reapings" take so much time each cycle (hundreds of years according to Vigil).



If the whole planet was burning I don't think people would be saying that's a plot hole at all. I can't imagine how anybody could think that, since the trailer still took place in London (ergo the teasing about London). It's an area much bigger than just London burning in the trailer, yet nobody is complaining that it's not just London.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Reapers can control people's minds and make them kill eachother. also they can blow up space ships real good (When the alliance fought soverign he wasn't fighting back at potential because he was trying to open the relay and get his backup into the fight)

[volus4life]

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...
What..? Really? Are the Reapers going door to door strangling people with pillows?

.... but they're really big pillows.

[lovgreno]

The reapers probably could have turned Earth into ashes in seconds if they wanted and they probably are ready to do that if something (=Shepard) mess up their plans. But ashes are not that good food. So I guess the whole Earth is getting harvested.

Modifié par lovgreno, 29 janvier 2011 - 05:22 .

[Someone With Mass]

Last time I checked, they wanted to harvest, not kill every human there is.

[McBeath]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last time I checked, they wanted to harvest, not kill every human there is.

Yup, it's pretty clear that harvest is there intent.  That being said, they would have to defend themselves from counter attacks, like from the wave after wave of fighters and gunships in the trailer.  Using thier uber laser beams over a major city like London is bound to have ALOT of collateral damage and civilian casualites.  Especially if there were ground defences that needed to be dealt with.  Airstrips, military instillations, guardian laser stations, ect.

Also perhaps the guy is ignorant to the nature of those "deaths"... like it's an estimate, or it includes the number of people missing(and likely being turned into grey paste).  Often casualties in the military sense are not strickly limited to dead. 

Most important of all... it's just a reason for the plot to advance.  Frankly from what we've seen of the Reapers were realistically screwed, though that wouldn't be much fun

[Encarmine]

OmegaXI wrote...

And we don't know how bad the Turians are getting hit, or the Salarians for that matter I mean their females don't leave the home world that often so if their home world goes down then their race is pretty much done.

I like this human! He understands!
Im happy to bet a serious amount of net cookies, earth IS NOT the only planet being attacked. Why? just the way the trailer is labelled 'Earth' makes me feel, that were going to see trailers for Palaven and Tuchanka etc. This game is about epic decisions, and im damn sure were going to be making some serious 'which planet do i save' decisions.

Which could also go some way to explaining the 'not immeadiate' death of Earth, if only a squadron of reapers have arrived, say 8-12 reapers, then the numbers make sense in way.

[Sajuro]

adam_grif wrote...

I don't follow what you're saying. The prerelease materials hinted towards London being significant, and Europe is apparently under attack in the Trailer. The invasion obviously isn't as simple as "bomb everything". They must be after something or they wouldn't bother taking their time with one region at a time.

It could just be the systematic extermination while leaving as little evidence of it as possible, that would explain why "Reapings" take so much time each cycle (hundreds of years according to Vigil).

If the whole planet was burning I don't think people would be saying that's a plot hole at all. I can't imagine how anybody could think that, since the trailer still took place in London (ergo the teasing about London). It's an area much bigger than just London burning in the trailer, yet nobody is complaining that it's not just London.

Just my ongoing cynicism about these forums.

[Tachai03]

You would think that for the sheer amount of Reapers that exist, they would be at every major city on Earth. Just because a trailer doesn't show the rest of the planet going up in flames doesn't mean they're not raiding there. Perhaps London had been invaded first? And their intention isn't even to mass murder humans through war, but to turn them into genetic material to be used to construct Reapers. I think that these are casualties from resistance, while people are simultaneously being collected for milkshake-ification. But either way, that was just ONE radio transmission from ONE city. There could be dozens upon dozens more paging for Shepards help, pleading for him to save them. AND that's just on Earth. There are human colonies out there, so wouldn't they raid those planets, too? As quoted by Sovereign, "Our numbers will darken the sky of every world."

That's just my 2 cents, though.

Modifié par Tachai03, 29 janvier 2011 - 07:09 .

[Moiaussi]

Spartas Husky wrote...

This has already been done... look at the rate 2 mill first day. 7 mill 5 days later. Meaning it every week it multiples by 3.5
24 mill in the 2nd week
85 mill 3rd
nearly 300 mill by the end of the month.
keep adding and the earth will be cleared pretty soon.

But also keep in mind.. their point is to subdue... not to destroy.

But it is slowing down. If it is 2 mil per day, it should be 14 mil per week. 7 mil is only half that.

In both ME1 and ME2 the writers really seem to have trouble with concepts of scale....