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[ejoslin]

The Water God wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Prince Keldar wrote...

The first playthrough of WH, I killed Morrigan because my HN Rogue convinced Alistair to go through with the dark ritual. Even though she saved Alistair's life my character felt she was too dangerous to allow to live. Not from a romantic standpoint but for Alistair. After all imagine what would happen if it came out that Alistair had fathered a child of an Apostate. Even though it would have been illegitimate it could still make a claim to the throne.

......maybe I have been reading too much history of the English Monarchy. lol

Well that doesn't really change that there's still a kid out there. With Morrigan dead, you won't know where and if she left any info with the child concerning the father...

There's not necessarily a child.

 

Morrigan doesn't die, she simply gets injured and falls through the mirror. This makes the stabbing a bad move since now you have an angry Morrigan and possibly angry god child against you

I'm not making any judgement on whether it's a good or a bad idea.  I just gave a motivation as to why someone may choose to kill her, and pointed out that there is not necessarily a child.

Did one of the develpors make a comment yet on whether or not stabbing Morrigan kills her?

I believe so, and it does not kill her.  It just makes her really mad!

[Cutlass Jack]

The Water God wrote...

Did one of the develpors make a comment yet on whether or not stabbing Morrigan kills her?

The cardnial rule of these sorts of things, is that if you don't see the body after the act, assume you didn't. (and sometimes not even then) If you really killed her, they wouldn't bother with the mirror thing. She'd just be dead at your feet.

[Collider]

Killing Morrigan seems rather silly.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

ejoslin wrote...

I believe so, and it does not kill her.  It just makes her really mad!

Yep, she's officially alive and pissed off.

[Avilia]

Yeah, not a fan of Morrigan here, never do the DR. Still, cannot not find it reasonable to kill her. I fully intended to on my first playthrough and then the bloody dog was all "ooh Morri, hai!" ;-)

hehe - seriously, no, I just couldn't see why any of my PC's would do it. On the three runs of WH I did, none of them actually had much of a relationship with her. So they didn't like or dislike her enough to really care either way. Listened to her news, sent her on her way and went to get the book.

Modifié par Avilia, 30 janvier 2011 - 12:30 .

[wickedgoodreed]

Avilia wrote...

Yeah, not a fan of Morrigan here, never do the DR. Still, cannot not find it reasonable to kill her. I fully intended to on my first playthrough and then the bloody dog was all "ooh Morri, hai!" ;-)

Hey, if Dog trusts Morri, then that's good enough for me!

[Cutlass Jack]

Seeing Morrigan's reaction to dog was the best part of the entire DLC. I don't think I can recall one other moment she looked genuinely happy like that.

[TheBlackBaron]

The Water God wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I believe so, and it does not kill her.  It just makes her really mad!

Yep, she's officially alive and pissed off.

That just sounds so utterly stupid. Whats the point of giving these players these variety of choices like stabbing Morrigan if they barely have any effect on the story whatsoever.

How do you know it won't? They've already said Morrigan's story isn't over. 

A Morrigan who parted on friendly terms with the Warden might be very different from one who got stabbed. 

[Cutlass Jack]

The Water God wrote...

We all know thats not true because then all the grey wardens Duncan, Riordan, and whoever slays the Archdemon should also be alive and you don't get to see them die or get to see their bodys (Except for the wardens funeral).

Absense of proof isn't proof. While it would be extremely far fetched, any of the characters you mentioned could show up in the future if the writers wanted it to bad enough. Remember those same reports said Bryce Cousland was dead and he showed up just fine at the end.

Those deaths aren't part of the same literary device I'm talking about anyways. Since the hero wasn't involved. Trust me, if they didn't have future plans for Morrigan, they wouldn't have had her fall through the mirror.

[TheBlackBaron]

Dude, Gaider (and I believe Laidlaw as well) has clearly stated that Morrigan's story is not over yet. I'm 99% sure she's not dead if that's the case.

[LobselVith8]

Eber wrote...

You kill her for the bounty of course!

Once again, the templars want to kill someone they suspect of being a blood mage... good to see they don't let little things like evidence get in the way of murdering suspected mages! It's the death of the Magnificent D'Sims all over again...

Eber wrote...

Note that you only get this codex entry if you play an Orleasian but much of it would apply to a Warden from Origins aswell. Certainly the templars would still consider her a maleficar and the wardens would still be interested in the swamp witches and their role in things.

I can imagine that the Hero of Ferelden wouldn't need any aid from the First Warden to help things in Ferelden, given how many potential ties can be established in DA:O. I doubt that the First Warden would offer support to an already established Hero of Ferelden who established ties with the dwarves of Orzammar (and I wonder if they built that statue of the Warden-Commander yet) and the Crown of Ferelden (which can be another Grey Warden).

You have a good point about the Chantry, though. They do have that habit of killing suspected illegal mages. If the Chantry tried to pull "she might be a blood mage" then I'm certain the Warden-Commander would intervene. It would likely be an important issue for the Hero of Ferelden who valued Morrigan and is the de facto Arl of Amaranthine.

[Gilsa]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

 I've sat down for a long time trying to figure out why one would want to do so aside from "because BioWare allowed me to" or "I don't like Morrigan and I stab what I don't like 'cause I'm clinically insane", but I simply can't justify it.

Please help me out.

Only answering it to give you some perspective that isn't a "I hate that witch" one. I had my own reasons for declining the dark ritual. Even after I had gone after Flemeth at Morrigan's request, she couldn't be straight with my character about why she wanted the dark ritual. My character had been played by Bhelen in dwarf noble orgin and I had a sense of deja vu at the dark ritual when she revealed ulterior motives for tagging along as a companion.

Cue Witch Hunt. Oh, she stole a book for her own gains after inflitrating a group. Sounds familiar. OK, so she's after a powerful mirror. Why her? She still wouldn't give me a straight answer about anything. She acted like she was the betrayed one despite her walking out after not getting what she wanted. Considering that she primarily acted in her own best interests and wanted powerful things, letting her walk through that mirror was not an option.

My two choices were to stand there like a fool and say goodbye or to "attack." I didn't know what was going to happen when I pressed the second choice. It didn't say "kill." (Some people said they thought she'd fight back.) I wanted to break the mirror so she couldn't use it. I simply didn't want her to have the mirror. It wasn't hers to use. So after I attacked, I was startled to see her look like someone kicked a puppy. That was certainly dramatic and over the top. I felt a little bad, but I am not going back to change it. What happened, happened.

I took a lot of flak and got accused of being a Morrigan hater because people were reacting with the knife scene fresh in their minds. How dare anyone do that to her? Easy to say when you're metagaming or reacting out of horror. For what it's worth, I couldn't find a RP reason for an Orlesian to attack a woman she's never met and only heard about. She was sent there to investigate and knew nothing of who Morrigan was. My male warden went through the mirror with her.

[Zjarcal]

Gilsa wrote...
I took a lot of flak and got accused of being a Morrigan hater because people were reacting with the knife scene fresh in their minds. How dare anyone do that to her? Easy to say when you're metagaming or reacting out of horror. For what it's worth, I couldn't find a RP reason for an Orlesian to attack a woman she's never met and only heard about. She was sent there to investigate and knew nothing of who Morrigan was. My male warden went through the mirror with her.

Heh... for what it's worth, I'm sorry that I was one of those who gave you some flak for this. 

After debating the issue with Phaonica, I was able to set aside my ' "killing" Morrigan is a stupid evil thing to do! ' ideas. I was viewing the issue without taking all the variables into account.

[Gilsa]

Pfft, it was an emotional time, no worries. I didn't even remember that you gave me any flak. If I could do it all over again, I would not have bought Witch Hunt.

[TheBlackBaron]

The Water God wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Dude, Gaider (and I believe Laidlaw as well) has clearly stated that Morrigan's story is not over yet. I'm 99% sure she's not dead if that's the case.

Neither is the OGB's. But he has the possiblity of never existing in the first place.

The writers used Witch Hunt to give themselves an out in regards to that. The OGB might affect the plot but is not required for the storyline to move forward. Given how the metaplot seems to be advancing towards a Morrigan v. Flemeth confrontation, I'd guess that she does have a major role to play. 

[FellowerOfOdin]

The Water God wrote...

So no one killed Morrigan because their warden hated her alot?

Every real Lawful Good hero would have killed her, let alone would not have recruited her to begin with, it's just not possible to kill Morrigan because David Gaider said so.