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[kreite]

Other than the obvious things like whether you sacrificed yourself, or who you chose as ferelden's ruler. (if you played awakening, I guess the condition of vigils keep would be fair game to) etc.

For example, my human noble warden left vigils keep and reunited with Leliana, so I'd enjoy hearing something like

"Did you hear? The old warden commanders been sighted again, or so I am lead to believe, they say he's traveling with a red-headed bard too, but I could've heard wrong"

[Zevais]

I want to see a recipe of his favorite food show up as a note left in Lothering.

[TheRevanchist]

As few references as possible about the actual person. The consequences of their choices however, yes as long as it makes sense.

[PsychoBlonde]

Absolutely nothing. No, seriously--if I hear anything, I hope it's along the lines of the "gossips" they have in Origins.



I won't mind if you get to see a few things, like who is the ruler of Ferelden or maybe a few of the Architect's "free" darkspawn, but other than that, no.

[XFemShepX]

My warden (human noble) set up Alastair as king and chose to rule beside him. So I hope they give a mention of the Grey Warden rulers, or something along those lines.

[TJPags]

kylecouch wrote...

As few references as possible about the actual person. The consequences of their choices however, yes as long as it makes sense.

^^ this.

It would annoy me to no end to hear things about my Warden and his LI's.  I don't want to hear insignficant crap about the Warden.  I don't want to hear things like "did you hear?  That dwarf the Warden got into the Ferelden mage circle wrote a treatise on lyrium".  If we hear that, let's hear that some dwarf did it - not that the Warden got her into the Circle.

I'm fine hearing things like "Alistair is now the King of Ferelden - he married Anora".  But I don't want hear "the Warden did it".

I loved Origins, enjoyed all my Wardens - but this game is not about them.  I don't want it to turn into "the Warden chronicles" either, and tell us all about the things they did. 

Let's hear about the important events - the events, not the person.

[Eternal Phoenix]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Absolutely nothing. No, seriously--if I hear anything, I hope it's along the lines of the "gossips" they have in Origins.

I won't mind if you get to see a few things, like who is the ruler of Ferelden or maybe a few of the Architect's "free" darkspawn, but other than that, no.

Since your warden played an important role in ending the blight, you'll hear something and if my memory serves me correctly, then Bioware have already confirmed that we will hear about our warden via NPC banter. After all, our warden is like a legend now.

I would like to see a codex entry from a book about my warden's deeds. It'll also be good to hear from NPCs about the warden ending the blight as soon as you enter Kirkwall (which is straight away after the blight is ended according to Bioware).

"Ere, have ya eard? Some Grey Warden only just gon an' ended the blight! Thank The Maker for that! I thought it may ad' spread here!"

I mean killing an Archdemon is not just something that is forgotten about. Galward (or whatever) the first Warden to end the blight is still referenced centuries later. I don't expect everyone to mentioning the Warden but I at least want some people to mention him/her ending the blight with the help of Loghain/Alistair.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 29 janvier 2011 - 06:29 .

[SirOccam]

I'm surprised to hear so many people say they don't want a lot of references to their Warden. I think you're underestimating the impact the Warden had. He or she is called the Hero of Ferelden for a reason.

I don't think they need to cram references in there about everything, but the Warden should be something of a celebrity by that point, and with so many people from Ferelden coming over into Kirkwall, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they talked about him/her a lot.

I definitely think the "big things" should be there: who's ruling Ferelden, who's ruling Orzammar, what happened with the Anvil of the Void, what happened with the Werewolves, what happened in Redcliffe, etc.

But also a few smaller things would be great, and would help it not seem so generic. Of course it would have to be something that makes sense as something people would want to talk about. For example, a reference to my Warden having grown up in an Alienage could be included in a discussion about how elves are treated in Kirkwall. That he ran off searching for Morrigan after the events of Awakening could be included in a discussion about apostates. That sort of thing. It doesn't have to be an arbitrary declaration about one of the Warden's traits.

[Lord_Saulot]

I want to hear the following:



"When Cailan was king, everyone knew that Queen Anora was the real power behind Cailan. But since the widowed queen married that Cousland and made him Teyrn of Gwaren, everyone knows who is the real power behind Anora. Mark my words. The people love their Warden-King now with the Blight ended, but they are fickle and it won't be long before they curse the day that Marric restored the Wardens to Ferelden."

[London]

I agree - ending something like the blight that could have easily spread to other reasons deserves some kind of recognition and respect. I want at least ONE comment about my warden and his LI also.



A "Hero" would be like a celebrity of that time. At least someone in the world would care about "gossipy" things like his marital status. Look at Americans with theri tabloids - or international news about Prince Harry's wedding. People do care about these things.

[TheRevanchist]

They are the Hero of Ferelden...as such The Free Marches are not part of Ferelden and they should not really care what the Warden did because it don't really affect them all that much. (ignoreing the Blight)

[Guitar-Hero]

I personelly imagine a bar scene with two warriors talking to eachother about their time in fereldan and this warden who were unlike any man they had ever seen, maybe elevated to an Achillese type thing

but yeah major plot points would be cool

i personelly loved the ref. in WH

[Eternal Phoenix]

But news would have spread to The Free Marches, the ending of a blight is not just something that is forgotten in a day. The whole world would be grateful - even Sten remember?

[danteliveson]

I wanna hear about Isabella's time with the Warden.

[London]

People in America care about major figures in Europe and Asia. Why wouldn't people in Free Marches care about a hero in Ferelden who prevented a blight from reaching them? Everyone would be talking about this. 

As far as I'm aware, Archdemons are not contained to Ferelden.  Didn't they appear in other areas in the past?

Modifié par SebastianDA, 29 janvier 2011 - 06:37 .

[Lord_Saulot]

kylecouch wrote...

They are the Hero of Ferelden...as such The Free Marches are not part of Ferelden and they should not really care what the Warden did because it don't really affect them all that much. (ignoreing the Blight)

Um, but you can't ignore the Blight.  That is as big and important as it gets and it very much affects the Free Marches.  Also, how are the major power struggles of the kingdom right across the strait not important in the Free Marches?  The average person might not know much, but anyone even slightly important in the Free Marches would likely have followed events in Ferelden.

[TheRevanchist]

SebastianDA wrote...

People in America care about major figures in Europe and Asia. Why wouldn't people in Free Marches care about a hero in Ferelden who prevented a blight from reaching them? Everyone would be talking about this. 

As far as I'm aware, Archdemons are not contained to Ferelden.  Didn't they appear in other areas in the past?

Thats no reason to mention their LI, who did little to nothing to help them in retrospect. Besides Hawke will overshadow him by the end of the game.

[SirOccam]

kylecouch wrote...

They are the Hero of Ferelden...as such The Free Marches are not part of Ferelden and they should not really care what the Warden did because it don't really affect them all that much. (ignoreing the Blight)

Setting aside the Blight part (Lord_Saulot addressed that issue), remember that Fereldans have been fleeing their country in droves, ending up in Kirkwall and the Free Marches in large part. Even if Free Marchers didn't care, I'm sure the Fereldan expats would.

[Nayt Navare]

My friends hear about my Warden and Leliana in real life, why can't someone in a video game set in the same world?

[RosaAquafire]

I would definitely like my Warden's Origin to be relevant. Much else, I could take or leave, but this is something that matters to me. A city elf Warden should affect how people look at elves in alienages, as far as I'm concerned. A mage Warden should affect Kirkwall politics -- look, THIS mage didn't have a Templar holding her leash, look what she accomplished? A Dalish warden should affect some dialogue with Merrill. Etc.

[Auroras]

"Did you hear about the Warden King and Queen?" blah blah blah etc. But something around those lines.

Modifié par Auroras, 30 janvier 2011 - 05:01 .

[London]

Like I said, look at the tabloid industry. Millions of dollars are made spreading news about public figures and their personal lives. Once a figure is someone of interest, people want to know about their private lives.



If the Hero of Ferelden killed the Archdemon with his girlfriend fighting by his side, a lot of people would have interest in hearing that. Then they'd probably be interested in learning more about her too. It's just how people work.



Maybe you don't care, but many do.

[Ser Mix-a-lot]

danteliveson wrote...

I wanna hear about Isabella's time with the Warden.

This is a reference I'm looking forward to, since it's a character who's actually met the Warden in person.

[SirOccam]

kylecouch wrote...

Thats no reason to mention their LI, who did little to nothing to help them in retrospect. Besides Hawke will overshadow him by the end of the game.

Really? It seems logical that every member of the Warden's group would have gained some small measure of fame for having accompanied the Warden. But even then, remember that one possible LI might be the King of Ferelden. Another is a fabled Witch of the Wilds who mysteriously disappeared after (possibly) helping the Warden survive killing the Archdemon, which isn't supposed to be possible. And even so, the fact that they're romantically linked to the Warden should be more than enough reason for people to gossip about them. Look at Kate Middleton, for example.

[TheRevanchist]

SebastianDA wrote...

Like I said, look at the tabloid industry. Millions of dollars are made spreading news about public figures and their personal lives. Once a figure is someone of interest, people want to know about their private lives.

If the Hero of Ferelden killed the Archdemon with his girlfriend fighting by his side, a lot of people would have interest in hearing that. Then they'd probably be interested in learning more about her too. It's just how people work.

Maybe you don't care, but many do.

The personal lives of other people are none of their damn business as far as I'm concerned.