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[mgs00]

Just curious about this.  I'm pretty sure they didn't look like the Collectors because one, that would truly suck ass because the Protheans' coolness rating would be less and also EDI said the Reapers changed the Protheans over the years. 

[JeffZero]

They originally looked like the mind flayers that statue resembles, I think. I'm no ME expert yet, though.

[Xilizhra]

A beacon vision in ME2 shows the Protheans fairly clearly as Collector-like.

[Alienmorph]

No: the beacon shows the old ME1 flashback and then a quick shot of a group of Collectors.

[mgs00]

Xilizhra wrote...

A beacon vision in ME2 shows the Protheans fairly clearly as Collector-like.

omfg why the hell did they change their appearence for?  now I think of the protheans less now

[Xilizhra]

Alienmorph wrote...

No: the beacon shows the old ME1 flashback and then a quick shot of a group of Collectors.

I think it has some Collector-like beings fleeing in fear.

[FireEye]

Xilizhra wrote...

A beacon vision in ME2 shows the Protheans fairly clearly as Collector-like.

It shows a frame of the Collectors pasted directly over the same ME1 frame of the mindflayers in the same pose.

... I honestly don't know whether it's supposed to be a redesign or a "they then transformed into this". 

[JeffZero]

I would imagine the statue in Kasumi's DLC would tend to suggest the 'mind flayer' look is still canon...

[Nibroc17]

Xilizhra wrote...

A beacon vision in ME2 shows the Protheans fairly clearly as Collector-like.

I think thats just to show their connection. It's a vision, which if i'm not mistaken are notorious for not being accurate.

Modifié par Nibroc17, 29 janvier 2011 - 09:12 .

[Alienmorph]

Xilizhra wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

No: the beacon shows the old ME1 flashback and then a quick shot of a group of Collectors.

I think it has some Collector-like beings fleeing in fear.

I redid that mission just a few days ago: it's the ME1 flashback, with no addiction before the last frame with Collectors. Also... basing on what both IDA and Mordin says, the Collectors have almost nothing left of the Protheans except the basic genetic structure... especially I have strong doubts that their head is what a Prothean's one looked like. It has vaguely the shape of Harbringer (you saw the pick of him that Joker shows to Shepard in the final sequence after the SM, right?) and probably it's the place where most of the cybernetics that hallows him to assume the control are placed.

[Wulfram]

Do we know that the Protheans were necessarily all one species?

[CroGamer002]

I think in ME1 we saw early version of Protheins, but since they look not alien at all, I think Bioware recreated them.

[FireEye]

Ahhuh!

ME1:


ME2:


...

(... if it helps, anyway - I still don't know one way or the other...)

[Vaenier]

Awsome, looks like they were infected by the Flood.

[Saren100]

I dont understand is that shot supposed to show the protheans being transformed or what?

[Sajuro]

Xilizhra wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

No: the beacon shows the old ME1 flashback and then a quick shot of a group of Collectors.

I think it has some Collector-like beings fleeing in fear.

Theory time: The Protheans used genetic engineering to create a slave race, so the Protheans themselves could be all utopian and ****. The Reapers came and even though the Protheans were useless, they adopted the slave race and began integrating Protheans who were captured and indoctrinated in, hence: The Collectors.

[Zulu_DFA]

mgs00 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

A beacon vision in ME2 shows the Protheans fairly clearly as Collector-like.

omfg why the hell did they change their appearence for?  now I think of the protheans less now

The Reapers changed the appearence of a few Protheans to make them into Collectors. Before that happened, all Protheans were indoctrinated and definitely some of them were huskified. That statue is a statue of a huskified Prothean.

[Slayer299]

Zulu_DFA wrote...
The Reapers changed the appearence of a few Protheans to make them into Collectors. Before that happened, all Protheans were indoctrinated and definitely some of them were huskified. That statue is a statue of a huskified Prothean.

Zulu, I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. Why would the Protheans make a statue of a huskified Prothean *and* how would they have time to do so during all that? One would think they'd have more important things to do that didn't include creating lawn gnomes for the garden. 

To the OP's question, my thoughts on the statue, I think the statue was a representation of Protheans since they were virtually all over Ilos and not a huskfied Prothean, it seemed more like artwork and not a warning of some sort. As to the beacon vision in ME2 it felt to me like it was a retcon of the original vision in ME where the Protheans suddenly appear to look like the Collectors. 

[FireEye]

Slayer299 wrote...

To the OP's question, my thoughts on the statue, I think the statue was a representation of Protheans since they were virtually all over Ilos and not a huskfied Prothean, it seemed more like artwork and not a warning of some sort.

My first time through, I thought the statues were cemetery monuments or something.  It does seem more like artwork to me.

[AntiChri5]

I still don't buy that those statues are what protheans look like.

[Zulu_DFA]

Slayer299 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...
The Reapers changed the appearence of a few Protheans to make them into Collectors. Before that happened, all Protheans were indoctrinated and definitely some of them were huskified. That statue is a statue of a huskified Prothean.

Zulu, I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. Why would the Protheans make a statue of a huskified Prothean *and* how would they have time to do so during all that? One would think they'd have more important things to do that didn't include creating lawn gnomes for the garden. 

Once they were indoctrinated, they accepted the Reapers as gods or supreme beings, huskification became voluntary and common behavior, and their rudimentary culture reflected that. Also the random pioneer groups that turn themselves into husks are often called "cultists" and that implies observation of some form of ceremonial behavior. Even the Geth Heretics built "some kind of church" (on Feros, remember?).

[TuringPoint]

Maybe the statues were worn down by erosion.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

I still don't buy that those statues are what protheans look like.

Why?

[Aigyl]

That's an image of a Prothean in the Codex.

They do look rather odd. S'pose it makes sense they'd be very alien-looking since they actually downloaded information into their minds from the Beacons.

For the Collectors appearing in the vision, I imagine it was some sort of warning sent across the Beacon network in the Prothean's final hours from a source other than Ilos, who had learned what the Reapers were doing to them. I actually did that mission before the Collector Ship, so the whole twist was suddenly revealed to me right then at the end of the vision. Was freakin' awesome.

[Vaenier]

Alocormin wrote...

Maybe the statues were worn down by erosion.

Too much detail left. Plus errosion does not exist in mass effect.