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[HolyAvenger]

Yeah the Landsmeet was basically set up so there's very little chance of a heir for the current ruler(s).



Nice setup for DA3: Ferelden Succession?

[Mariefoxprice83]

Yeah, I agree with your thoughts but it still seems shortsightened on the part of the characters to not at least think about the succession if they are supposed to know there will be difficulties. Not sure that either of my finished characters cares though. Erik died figthing the Archdemon and Eleyna will hopefully be reuinted with Zevran when I finish Awakenings. I imagine them adopting orphaned kids from Denerim Alienage and only getting involved with the heir to the throne business if they had to track down a distant relative of Alistair's to take over as heir.

[Sarah1281]

shatteredstar56 wrote...

Look away children.

Women are probably slightly more sterile then males, considering males can make new sperm continually throughout their adult life. Women have all the eggs they will have their whole life time. Considering that face, it's not so hard to see that women will have a harder time making babies then men. I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool for my Warden to have a little elfling, but it's very impossible.
Two Grey Wardens having children has now been deemed impossible.

Why should that matter? If there is something wrong with the sperm then no matter how many of them a man makes, they will all be defective.

[Muzzow]

You guys should use one of the DAO mods for your dreams of a female warden having a baby. My elven mage always ends up with her LI (NOT Alistair and NOT Zevran) having a son with him. It's a bit of 'happy ever after' slideshow epilogue but I don't care. XD

[Mariefoxprice83]

Who is the love interest then if it's neither Alistair nor Zevran? I'm curious now.

[Muzzow]

I mentioned mods, so... my warden's love interest is Jowan.



A mod turned him into a recruitable and romanceable character meanwhile.

[Mariefoxprice83]

Cool. Is he less whiny in the mod? His complaints in the Mage's Tower were so whiny I didn't know whether to laugh or pity him...in the end I did both and helped him becusae the whole concept of Tranquility freaked me out big time when I first found out about it!

[Muzzow]

He starts off just as insecure and troubled as he is in the Mage's Tower and Redcliffe but he changes (but only if you're nice to him) over time. It needs a bit patience and the one or other overly gentle answer but he gradually turns into a happier and braver person in the end. He has a bit of awkward moments that makes me chuckle but I think it's fitting for his personality. Jowan can be turned into a serious mage doing heavy damage as a Maleficar/Spirit Healer when leveled up properly. He has personal gifts and a personal quest (rescuing Lily from Aeonar) as well - and LOTS of dialoges.

[Eshaye]

Mariefoxprice83 wrote...

Yeah, I agree with your thoughts but it still seems shortsightened on the part of the characters to not at least think about the succession if they are supposed to know there will be difficulties.

I just finished Origins with my noble marrying Alistair, he says about the heir thing that they can figure that out later... A later we've yet to see.... 

[Mariefoxprice83]

Interesting..that's my next goal so I may get the same dialogue.

[Deadmac]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

 Why do male wardens all get the opportunity to have a kid by the end of the game but not us girls? I think I already posted about this but I don't know where the old topic went. I'm still wondering. After all the "attempts" with Alistair/Zevran we don't get to have any chillens?

It's stupid and unfair.

So... If you think about this logically, the males who have children in life (and in game) normally need a female counterpart. All the 'family' relationships found in the game are hetrosexual; thus, one male and one female are required in order to have children.

Did I miss something?

Modifié par Deadmac, 04 février 2011 - 05:07 .

[LiquidGrape]

Easy. Just install a mod which allows a female warden to romance Morrigan, and you can bump uglies with her at the desired date. If you're wondering how two women could conceive a child just like that, well, just imagine it's part of the whole "dark ritual" shtick. It won't make any less sense than half the other stuff in the game.

[Sarah1281]

Deadmac wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

 Why do male wardens all get the opportunity to have a kid by the end of the game but not us girls? I think I already posted about this but I don't know where the old topic went. I'm still wondering. After all the "attempts" with Alistair/Zevran we don't get to have any chillens?

It's stupid and unfair.

So... If you think about this logically, the males who have children in life (and in game) normally need a female counterpart. All the 'family' relationships found in the game are hetrosexual; thus, one male and one female are required in order to have children.

Did I miss something?

I don't think that post was referring to the tragedy of Alistair and Zevran being unable to impregnate each other but rather the fact that no matter how many times a female Warden has sex with Alistair and/or Zevran they won't have a child in-game. Of course, Alistair is easily explainable in that he's a Warden as well and as for Zevran, it might happen. Just not in-game where you getting pregnant makes you absolutely useless in a fight and you've got a Blight to end.

[snakespirit]

Muzzow wrote...

He starts off just as insecure and troubled as he is in the Mage's Tower and Redcliffe but he changes (but only if you're nice to him) over time. It needs a bit patience and the one or other overly gentle answer but he gradually turns into a happier and braver person in the end. He has a bit of awkward moments that makes me chuckle but I think it's fitting for his personality. Jowan can be turned into a serious mage doing heavy damage as a Maleficar/Spirit Healer when leveled up properly. He has personal gifts and a personal quest (rescuing Lily from Aeonar) as well - and LOTS of dialoges.

Which mod is this?

[Muzzow]

snakespirit wrote...

Muzzow wrote...

He starts off just as insecure and troubled as he is in the Mage's Tower and Redcliffe but he changes (but only if you're nice to him) over time. It needs a bit patience and the one or other overly gentle answer but he gradually turns into a happier and braver person in the end. He has a bit of awkward moments that makes me chuckle but I think it's fitting for his personality. Jowan can be turned into a serious mage doing heavy damage as a Maleficar/Spirit Healer when leveled up properly. He has personal gifts and a personal quest (rescuing Lily from Aeonar) as well - and LOTS of dialoges.

Which mod is this?

The mod is "Karmas Origins Companions" at Dragonagenexus.net.

She creates another batch of companions at the moment.
Currently available in the mod: Jowan, Cullen, Ser Gilmore and Gorim.
New companions that will be added soon: Soris, Tamlen (Dalish and Darkspawn variant, I think) and Leske.

Jowan, Cullen, Ser Gilmore and Gorim are romanceable as well:

Jowan - only females
Cullen - only female mages
Ser Gilmore - both genders
Gorim - female dwarfs only

[ejoslin]

Eshaye wrote...

Mariefoxprice83 wrote...

Yeah, I agree with your thoughts but it still seems shortsightened on the part of the characters to not at least think about the succession if they are supposed to know there will be difficulties.

I just finished Origins with my noble marrying Alistair, he says about the heir thing that they can figure that out later... A later we've yet to see.... 

My Queen CousCous just told Alistair she'd try for an heir with someone else.  She hopes he'll do the same.

[Sarah1281]

Gorim - female dwarfs only

Is that DCs and DNs or just DNs?

Modifié par Sarah1281, 07 février 2011 - 10:37 .

[Kappa Neko]

What is it lately with people wanting to have children in games?? First little blue kids with Liara, now DA:O? I don't get it, to be honest.

Why would a Grey Warden want to have kids anyway? They'll die before their kids hit 30 or get slaughtered by the Darkspawn much earlier. Or get murdered due to negative propaganda. Good thing they're almost sterile. Well, sure, people die like flies in Ferelden anyway. So maybe this is not exactly a strong argument. But it's not the kind of situation that would make me choose to have kids. Grey Wardens get a crappy deal. I like it that way.



Nor do I understand how a male Grey Warden is better off. He gets to help Morrigan have this doomsday demon monster god baby or whatever the heck it's going to be. Awww, how sweet O_O So in fact, no, the male Warden doesn't get to have kids, as has been pointed out before. He gets to make one, that's all. I'm glad my female Warden won't have to hide when words get around who fathered Morrigan's tool for her rise to power and people start sharpening their axes...

[Sarah1281]

Why would a Grey Warden want to have kids anyway?

Lots of people die before their children reach thirty. By thirty a child is old enough to no longer really NEED their parents (but, of course, are still saddened by the loss, I'm not being insensitive here) so they won't be abandoning them to death. And so what if they die in battle before then? You might as well ask a soldier why he would bother reproducing.



I don't think being 'killed by propaganda' is very likely. That's only seemed to be a risk in Ferelden for the year after Ostagar. Wardens can also (assuming they aren't mages) choose to leave the order to raise their kids if they want. It's specifically mentioned that Fiona CAN'T as a mage or she'd be dragged back to a Circle which implies that non-mages can.



And if Morrigan's child decides to start destroying everything in sight, it might not be so easy to get Morrigan/Alistair/Loghain-if-he's-still-around to admit that you were the other parent and if they do I don't think you'd have to worry about a mob so much as being expected to fix the problem.

[USArmyParatrooper]

If the "god child" turns out to be an unstoppable evil force then just ground him for a week and take away his PS3. Problem solved.

[Xilizhra]

Kappa Neko wrote...

What is it lately with people wanting to have children in games?? First little blue kids with Liara, now DA:O? I don't get it, to be honest.
Why would a Grey Warden want to have kids anyway? They'll die before their kids hit 30 or get slaughtered by the Darkspawn much earlier. Or get murdered due to negative propaganda. Good thing they're almost sterile. Well, sure, people die like flies in Ferelden anyway. So maybe this is not exactly a strong argument. But it's not the kind of situation that would make me choose to have kids. Grey Wardens get a crappy deal. I like it that way.

Nor do I understand how a male Grey Warden is better off. He gets to help Morrigan have this doomsday demon monster god baby or whatever the heck it's going to be. Awww, how sweet O_O So in fact, no, the male Warden doesn't get to have kids, as has been pointed out before. He gets to make one, that's all. I'm glad my female Warden won't have to hide when words get around who fathered Morrigan's tool for her rise to power and people start sharpening their axes...

My own Warden has no intention of dying that soon. Avernus' research should prove most valuable.
Also, LotSB explicitly mentioned the little blue children and probably implanted it well into the minds of the fanbase. In any case, it'd happen after the story was over, but it'd be beautiful nonetheless...

[HolyAvenger]

Because babies ever after is a classic happy ending...I wonder what percentage of DAO players who want it are female as compared to male.



I don't really care either way.

[Sarah1281]

I've mostly heard concern about babies in regards to the Queen Couslands which makes sense. As a character, she can be as competent as you want her to be and she certainly has the background and affection of her king so really the only thing that doesn't make her an ideal consort is her lack of ability to have children with Alistair and possibly at all (look how shocked Fiona was in the Calling when she got pregnant). In fact, far from this being a minor inconvenience, this lack of a potential heir is a very valid reason to not put her on the throne in the first place. I don't think anyone likes the idea that, while an heir may be unlikely no matter what they do, they are making it absolutely impossible for it to happen and thus being selfish by marrying Alistair. We've also all had it shoved down our throats how important the Theirin bloodline is and want it to continue to stabilize Ferelden.

[Xilizhra]

Theoretically, they could go for another bastard heir if a legitimate one is completely impossible to produce.

[Sarah1281]

Odds of getting Alistair to agree to that...?