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[Ferretinabun]

The epilogue slides are pretty bugg(er)ed. To my knowledge, the Dalish boon slide kicks in automatically even if you didn't take it (or were even Dalish), and the Mage boon doesn't trigger if you get the boon from Alistair rather than Anora. And several other errors, but those ones seem key plot ones.
I'm worried whether this will have a knock-on effect for DA2. Will everyone get a DA2 where the Dalish were granted land, even if they never requested it? Will there be no reference to circle mage autonomy if you put Alistair on the throne? Can DA2 fix problems which are evidently in the Origins game? Basically, will these slide glitches screw continuity for DA2? Have we have word on this?

[ddv.rsa]

A while back I did some research on this using the toolset. The Dalish boon will appear for everyone as long as Lanaya is Keeper. However the variable for the Dalish boon is never set and the slide only shows because its appearance conditions are bugged. Therefore that would not carry forward into DA2.



As for Alistair, his post-coronation dialog is bugged. In this case the variable indicating your chosen boon is never set, so I can't see how it could possibly carry forward (I think this only affects origin specific boons). If you want these boons your only option is for Anora to be sole ruler, or for Anora to marry Alistair and keep Loghain alive. That way you'll be asking her instead of Alistair.

[ejoslin]

If you're on a PC, you can use my mod (ZDF) -- I fix the bugs in the slideshow (among many other things). This was actually a joint effort by me and Terra_Ex (who is amazing -- there is an issue with the file that sets the boons, but he was able to fix them anyway) so it's also a part of Morrigan Restoration Patch. I actually highly recommend using at least one of our mods if playing a mage or city elf so you CAN get the boons.

Edit: here's the list...

-Zevran's in love slide, if leaving Denerim, should now trigger properly for male wardens.
-Alistair's in love slide, if staying in Denerim, should only reference Queen Anora if Anora is actually queen.
-Morrigan's in love slide should now trigger if Morrigan is either in love or still in love (rather than just still in love).
-If the werewolves are cured and allowed to go, their proper slide should trigger.
-If a city elf asks for the Alienage boon, the proper slides should trigger. 
-the Dalish boon no longer triggers for everyone under a certain circumstance
-The proper slides for the fate of the Sacred Ashes now triggers if Brother Genitivi is alive.
-Fixed an irregularity with Bella's epilogue cards triggering being dependent on Kaitlyn's epilogue cards.
-The flag for a city elf Boon and the Mage boon when Alistair is king is now set properly (thank you Terra_Ex for fixing this)

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 janvier 2011 - 03:50 .

[Ferretinabun]

ejoslin, you (and Terra_Ex) are total stars!

Out of interest, what is the gist of the missing slides?

[ejoslin]

Ferretinabun wrote...

ejoslin, you (and Terra_Ex) are total stars!
Out of interest, what is the gist of the missing slides?

The city elf ones are pretty bad. 

All: With a new bann in the Landsmeet to represent them, the city-born elves found a better lot than ever. New law gave the elves more trading rights and their own militia within the Alienage.

Shianni as Bann: Resistance from humans saw a rise in violence in the city, however, which culminated in Shianni's murder by a human bigot several years later. The resulting riot in the Alienage forced a crack-down from the throne, a clear signal that the tension with the elves had not been resolved.

Someone as Bann: Resistance from humans saw a rise in violence in the city, however, culminating in an angry mob outside the Landsmeet that stoned the new bann to death. The resulting riot in the Alienage forced a crack-down from the throne, a clear signal that tensions with the elves were far from resolved.

Warden as Bann: With <FirstName/>  as their new voice, the elves became prosperous in a way they had never known... enough to draw elves from nearby lands, desperate for real hope. The influx built ire among the human population and eventually resulted in a riot in Denerim, showing that as much as things change, they always stay the same.

mage boon:  
The young templar Cullen never quite recovered from his ordeal. After months of attempting to convince his superiors that the tower was still a danger, he finally snapped and killed three apprentices before being stopped by his fellow templars. Eventually, Cullen escaped from prison, a madman and a threat to any mage he encountered.

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 janvier 2011 - 04:46 .

[LobselVith8]

^^^ Doesn't the Cullen ending only show up if the Circle is culled and the Warden asks for the Circle to be given its independence (since it alternates with him becoming the new Knight-Commander as a result of Greagoir dying from his injuries at the Battle of Denerim if he doesn't)?



I heard that Anora properly recognizes the Magi boon. Is this accurate?

[ejoslin]

LobselVith8 wrote...

^^^ Doesn't the Cullen ending only show up if the Circle is culled and the Warden asks for the Circle to be given its independence (since it alternates with him becoming the new Knight-Commander as a result of Greagoir dying from his injuries at the Battle of Denerim if he doesn't)?

I heard that Anora properly recognizes the Magi boon. Is this accurate?

No.  If you ask for the mage boon, you get that slide no matter what -- Cullen can't handle the circle's independence.  Cullen becomes knight commander if there is no mage boon and you side with the templars.

I believe Anora grants the boons.  With Alistair, you need to use MRP or ZDF to get them to work properly.

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 janvier 2011 - 08:32 .

[ArawnNox]

Since we're on the subject, what are the conditions to trigger the whole Bann Teagan marries Bella thing. I've never seen it, but keep hearing about it.

[ddv.rsa]

Teagan can't marry Bella.

[Verly]

Teagan can marry ( Katlynn soemthing like that.. I'm forgetting her name at the moment) the girl in redcliffe that is looking for her brother Bevin (why I can remember the kid and not the sister I have no clue)



if before the battle if you give her 500 for the sword afterwards she will say she is going to use the money to go to Denirem.... at the end of the game you find out that she made it there and started a business and became successful. She and Teagan meet each other and fall in love.

[ejoslin]

Teagan marries Kaitlyn. In an unmodded game, you have to give the 500 before the battle to get that slide to trigger. Both ZDF and MRP fix this as well and it works now if you give her 500 after the battle as well.

Edit: And you have to have saved Redcliff.

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 janvier 2011 - 09:21 .

[ArawnNox]

Kaitlynn... Bella.... I knew it was one of them... >.>

[Ferretinabun]

Hmmm, interesting. I thought Teagan could marry either Bella or Kaitlyn.

If you give Kaitlyn money for the sword, she moves to Denerim and meets and marries Teagan. If you give Bella money to leave Redcliffe, SHE moves to Denerim and meets and marries Teagan. If you give them both money, Kaitlyn takes precedence.

Is that not right?

[wickedgoodreed]

From what I can tell, Teagan is only mentioned with Kaitlyn. If you make Kaitlyn rich, Bella's ending wont be mentioned.



Kaitlyn was made rich in exchange for sword: The young woman Kaitlyn eventually made it to Denerim safely, and used the small fortune she received for her father's sword to open a foundry while the city rebuilt. The foundry did well, turning her into a wealthy and respected woman. By chance, she met Teagan again at court--and within months, the two of them married.



Bella gone back to Denerim: Bella, the tavern wench, made it to Denerim safely. With the money she was given, she opened a brewery of her own.





Seems being the owner of a brewery doesn't garner as much wealth and respect as being the owner of a foundry.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

wickedgoodreed wrote...

Seems being the owner of a brewery doesn't garner as much wealth and respect as being the owner of a foundry.

Ferelden REALLY needs to re-examine it's priorities....

[Aran Linvail]

I never get the werewolves are cured slide , and all my chars do that.

[VanTesla]

Is there any way to get the above slides for the 360 without mods? If no, is there any mods out there that some one can point me too?

[Reika]

Unfortunately the console versions can't be modded, VanTesla. Only the PC version can.

[ddv.rsa]

VanTesla wrote...

Is there any way to get the above slides for the 360 without mods? If no, is there any mods out there that some one can point me too?

You mean the origin specific boons? You need to create a scenario where Anora delivers the post coronation speech:

• Anora is the sole ruler
• Anora and Alistair co-rule and Loghain is spared at the Landsmeet

Modifié par ddv.rsa, 05 février 2011 - 06:05 .