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I don't like Garrus.


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#76
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Garrus is awsome!!!!!!!!!! how could you! :P


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Mr.Kusy wrote...

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OP, you get the Troll of the Day award.
9/10. Excellent.

Too obvious to get 5 out of 10 in my opinion.


I can see where you're coming from.

However, with people taking him this seriously, he did a good job in my eyes.

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jlb524 wrote...

Regardless of the tone, the OP did bring up some valid points that none of the so-called Garrus fans engaged with, instead choosing to defend Garrus by making false claims such as 'everyone likes Garrus or you are a troll!' or 'Kaidan's a wussy', which are two things that have nothing to do with Garrus being a hothead, for example, or with his quest for revenge being completely selfish and reckless.

I can't say that I agree here. I think that most of the posters were replying in exactly the same tone that the OP used, and I don't really think that the OP deserved anything more.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

@jib524: *sigh*

AdmiralCheez said...
Sure, Garrus is a hothead who's estranged from his family and morally conflicted. Sure, he doesn't respect authority and gets violent and pissy when people get in his way. He even gets on my nerves, and he's my favorite character! It's his shortcomings that make him real.


But it does equal being liked. Which was the point to start with.

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What is really distressing is the fact that people are using an obvious trollish thread to vent their frustrations and bitterness.

I thought we were beyond "X character is better/worse than Y".



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Xilizhra wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Regardless of the tone, the OP did bring up some valid points that none of the so-called Garrus fans engaged with, instead choosing to defend Garrus by making false claims such as 'everyone likes Garrus or you are a troll!' or 'Kaidan's a wussy', which are two things that have nothing to do with Garrus being a hothead, for example, or with his quest for revenge being completely selfish and reckless.

I can't say that I agree here. I think that most of the posters were replying in exactly the same tone that the OP used, and I don't really think that the OP deserved anything more.


So, it's perfectly fine to stoop to the OP's level?

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The original post may be worded poorly, but I agree. I think Garrus is an atrocious character.

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I thought he was better in ME1, at least there you could say he was fully fleshed out character. He was brash and impulsive yet at the same time partly tempered by the military discipline or his father and people. In ME2 they just distilled his character down to one asset, "Garrus says cool things and isn't afraid of anything", he has 3 conversations and two of them relate to his loyalty mission and the other is the romance starter. Don't follow that path and you get nothing, he's as deep as puddle in parking lot. I could see if you like the somewhat cheesy 80's action cliche that Garrus channels and like a few of the clever things he says from time to time. However the violence done to and near total hollowing out of his character is almost unforgivable he's a shell of his former self and his inclusion in ME2 is for the worst.



He should have been in Captain Bailey's spot and as much as I like Col. Tigh Garrus sitting there would have made much, more sense. Instead what could have been a great moment in ME2 and a more careful development of the character in preparation for ME3 was wasted for no good in-game reason.

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jlb524 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Regardless of the tone, the OP did bring up some valid points that none of the so-called Garrus fans engaged with, instead choosing to defend Garrus by making false claims such as 'everyone likes Garrus or you are a troll!' or 'Kaidan's a wussy', which are two things that have nothing to do with Garrus being a hothead, for example, or with his quest for revenge being completely selfish and reckless.

I can't say that I agree here. I think that most of the posters were replying in exactly the same tone that the OP used, and I don't really think that the OP deserved anything more.


So, it's perfectly fine to stoop to the OP's level?

Was this thread ever intended to elicit serious replies?

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The original post was just "How do we kill him? I just want to punch him in the face twenty times" this morning btw.



As for the topic itself. Personally, I like Garrus and I have yet to see a thread like this (on any character) where these 'discussions' turn out well.

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his disrespect is what makes him unique he's troubled and has trouble seeing right from wrong

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The OP is clearly one of those creatures that live under a bridge ...... I forget what they are called. At any rate it has come out and is looking for food, dont give it any and maybe it will go away.



Garrus is my favorite ME squad mate and lots of people like him, for someone to come on the forums and post that is clearly a cry for attention, even if it is negative.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Was this thread ever intended to elicit serious replies?


I have no clue.  It seems that it did elicit some serious replies from others that have given criticism to Garrus' character and these have been met with the same attitude.

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jlb524 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Was this thread ever intended to elicit serious replies?


I have no clue.  It seems that it did elicit some serious replies from others that have given criticism to Garrus' character and these have been met with the same attitude.

Then we can thank them for having serious discussions in spite of the OP, not because of it.

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jswatta wrote...

How do we kill him? I just want to punch him in the face twenty times with a two second pause inbetween each punch.  Wrex could join in too!



He survived rocket to the face.
You really think you will do some damage to him by punching him 20 times even with Wrex?

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jswatta wrote...

How do we kill him? I just want to punch him in the face twenty times with a two second pause inbetween each punch.  Wrex could join in too!

Reason why Garrus is a complete and utter idiot

* Indecisive, can't make up his mind (ME1) .. I hated this about him.  So many times I wanted to just pay 5000 credits to Wrex to kick the **** out of Garrus. That would of been hilarious to watch.  Then when you say goodbye to him in ME1, he sounds like a little ****. "oh oh, sorry, oh sorry.."...

* Disrespected his family (ME1)

* Disrespects law and order (ME1)

* A horrible leader

* Gets people killed

* Doesn't respect Paragon Shepard (pisses me off)

* He's just a little ****, haven't you noticed? He never stands firm in a decision, no one can respect that.

Sure he can fight, but look at his weapon of choice? A sniper rifle? Coward sits in the back picking people off.   I'd rather stick him in a second group so I never have to see his cowardly, indecisive face.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRY4OQ9jRbSrDObSlXFAAgDCfAdxNDDPp_Gvaw84TKa0wORV22C&t=1

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Xilizhra wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Was this thread ever intended to elicit serious replies?


I have no clue.  It seems that it did elicit some serious replies from others that have given criticism to Garrus' character and these have been met with the same attitude.

Then we can thank them for having serious discussions in spite of the OP, not because of it.


Right, but still, they were either ignored or referred to as trolls b/c they don't worship at the alter that is Garrus.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Randy_Mac wrote...
OP, you get the Troll of the Day award.
9/10. Excellent.

Too obvious to get 5 out of 10 in my opinion.



He get's 6/10 for me.

At least he explains why without saying that homosexual word with f and not insulting fanbase.
But his reasons are just plain stupid.

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Mesina2 wrote...
But his reasons are just plain stupid.

TROLL TROLL

2/10

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7/10 for me. He curses too much to be taken seriously anyway.

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you don't like Garrus????
Your problem....Garrus is my brother in arms and is a badass character!

Modifié par MassStorm, 31 janvier 2011 - 08:22 .


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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
But his reasons are just plain stupid.

TROLL TROLL

2/10


Wait, me?

Haristo wrote...

jswatta wrote...

* Indecisive,
can't make up his mind (ME1) .. I hated this about him.  So many
times I wanted to just pay 5000 credits to Wrex to kick the **** out of
Garrus. That would of been hilarious to watch.  Then when you say
goodbye to him in ME1, he sounds like a little ****. "oh oh, sorry, oh
sorry.."...

* Disrespected his family (ME1)

* Disrespects law and order (ME1)

* A horrible leader

* Gets people killed

* Doesn't respect Paragon Shepard (pisses me off)

* He's just a little ****, haven't you noticed? He never stands firm in a decision, no one can respect that.

Sure
he can fight, but look at his weapon of choice? A sniper rifle? Coward
sits in the back picking people off.   I'd rather stick him in a second
group so I never have to see his cowardly, indecisive face.


* It's his personnality.
* Family values.
* He's Badass.
* I'm the boss not him. So I don't care.[still he ain't bad leader]
*  When ?!?
*  WRONG WRONG WRONG !
*  Point one.

And I'm a Snipe, are you insulting me ?!?[+ he uses Assault Rifle too]



Do I need to repeat why are his reasons stupid?

@Haristo pretty much wrote why.

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 janvier 2011 - 08:31 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
But his reasons are just plain stupid.

TROLL TROLL
2/10

Wait, me?


Well, yes.

My post was satirical of all those Garrus fan reactions so far in this thread. 
"He disagrees with me so he is a troll, so now let me engage in trollish behavior and give him a troll rating."

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Random person makes a thread about how they don't like Garrus, 5 pages are created within 12 hours.





Thus, Garrus is awesome.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
But his reasons are just plain stupid.

TROLL TROLL
2/10

Wait, me?


Well, yes.

My post was satirical of all those Garrus fan reactions so far in this thread. 
"He disagrees with me so he is a troll, so now let me engage in trollish behavior and give him a troll rating."



Did you read rest of my post?

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 janvier 2011 - 08:29 .