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[AquilusOrus]

I've finally got my DLC issue fixed. Didnt realize i had to 'run as admin'. Now I'm running the game on my new computer and running into a problem that i had on my old one. I'm on the main floor of Fort Drakon, in where the ballista's are with the shades and Genlock conjuror is  and suddnely DA crashes.

I thought originally it was a hardware issue so I uninstalled from my old PC nd waited until I bought my new one. It's doing the same thing.

I have the DA: Collector's Edition Digital Deluxe, fully patched. All DLC. The only thing I have additional is a mod to skip the fade. 

RIG:
Manufacturer:Hewlett-PackardProcessor:AMD Athlon™ II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHzMemory:5120MB RAMHard Drive:735 GBVideo Card:ATI Radeon HD 4200

[Gorath Alpha]

Have you ever tried without and mods at all? 

That HD 4200 is SUPPOSED to crash, over and over until it can't run any more, because it wasn't designed for the kind of stress that game play puts it through. It's only a mere Chipset video chip, after all.

Dragon Age: Origins -- requirements (always needed edits, IMO) 

Here are the minimum requirements for XP and Vista and the recommended system requirements.

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (this is clearly wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce "6600 GT" 128MB or greater (and this one is more wrong)

(Note: IMO, the practical choices for the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 GS, at least, for small textures - it will take a Radeon X1650 XT (or X1800 GTO, same thing, almost) for medium or better textures)

INTEL'S GARBAGE (Graphics Chip) IS NOT SUPPORTED

OK, you see the "850", "650" and "800" parts of the several Radeon cards above?  Those are what counts.  The "X" does not count, nor the "X1", and not the "4" in front of the onboard chip. 

www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4200.20493.0.html

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 31 janvier 2011 - 10:37 .

[schnitzeljaeger]

The onboard chip should run the game albeit maybe on low graphic settings and resolution.

[CrustyCat]

If you have an available PCI express slot, get an add in card for your pc. The 4200 is junk. When you do, you will also need to upgrade your PSU.

[Gorath Alpha]

CrustyCat wrote...

If you have an available PCI express slot, get an add in card for your pc. The 4200 is junk. When you do, you will also need to upgrade your PSU.

There are three or four kinds of PCIe add-on slots.  The one needed is the one that connects to the PCIe video bus, which, when its original version came out, it was referred to as "PCIe(16)", and it should be there on any desktop produced in the last five years.  The HD 4200 is an incremental improvement over the HD 3200 Chipset video chip, which was a direct descendent of the HD 2400 entry level business graphics card. 

Some sources have identified one or both of the HD Chipset video chips as being related to the HD 3400 graphics cards, which is not an accurate description of the relationship among desktop and onboard chips now.  The 4200 is an upgrade over the HD 3200, and does add Dx11 to the DX10 that the HD 3200 had.

http://www.notebookc...00.20493.0.html

There are a great many discrete graphics cards available in the retail market.  There are some that are literally six years old and older, still being sold because one manufacturer of graphics chips dropped the "AGP" interface right away, and they also have literally millions of junk graphics chips left over from a disastrously bad generation of cards, so there are still "new" Geforce FX 5200s and FX 5500s being sold for the AGP slot all these years later, and they are still as terrible now as they were in 2004. 

Gaming cards have a "600", "650", "670", and upward as the three numbers that bear on game performance in their names, or for recent Geforces, look for a "50" in the name, such as "GT 450", or a larger number in the "tens" place. 


Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 31 janvier 2011 - 09:07 .

[CrustyCat]

Guess I should have said PCIe-x16 slot. I'm assuming it's a desktop with integrated graphics. If it's a laptop, then your SOL.

[Gorath Alpha]

Naah, you're supposed to take the nVIDIA side and name something besides the single GTS 450 that I pointed at at the end there, after spending all my time on the much easier to understand AMD Radeon numbering system.  And I did forget to agree with you to be sure and have adequate amperage to power the replacement. 

[AquilusOrus]

Well, here's the thing, my XP that I just replaced was had a NVidia 9400 series graphic card and crashed in teh exact same place. Of course it also had a 1.6 Processor.

And yes this is a desktop. 

Modifié par AquilusOrus, 31 janvier 2011 - 10:23 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. There is no "XP" brand of anything, unless you want to count the XP version of Windows as being a "thing" to replace, but you are using the term as if it meant either GPU or VGA.  The Geforce 9400 GT was the renamed Geforce 8500 GT card that had created a new graphics card class, an "in-between" or borderline part, slightly below halfway between the 8400 GS business card, and the 8600 GT Mainline gaming card.

By now, it is getting old and slow compared to 2007. 

It would be better than the HD 4200, however.  As you can see on the next link, the 9400 would be below the minimum, but it is still twice as good as the HD 4200 is:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Those are your old video card versus the "Practical Minimum" Geforce. 

I have the DA: Collector's Edition Digital Deluxe, fully patched. All
DLC. The only thing I have additional is a mod to skip the fade. 

RIG:
Manufacturer:Hewlett-Packard
Processor:AMD
Athlon™ II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory:5120MB RAM
Hard
Drive:735 GB
Video Card:ATI Radeon HD 4200

If two such totally different systems both dislike the mod you used, why not play without it?  That one about the fade?

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 31 janvier 2011 - 10:50 .

[AquilusOrus]

My XP computer. It was a Dell Inspiron. Everything but the graphics card was stock.



I'm not playing with any mods on DA, either.



I'm going to look into a new graphics card, though. Thank you for the link.

[AquilusOrus]

Though, considering I'm getting DA2, what recommendations would you make?

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

 ...  As you can see on the next link, the 9400 would be below the minimum, but it is still twice as good as the HD 4200 is:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Those are your old video card versus the "Practical Minimum" Geforce, 6800 GS. 

I have the DA: Collector's Edition Digital Deluxe, fully patched. All DLC. The only thing I have additional is a mod to skip the fade. 

RIG:
Manufacturer:Hewlett-Packard
Processor:AMD
Athlon™ II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory:5120MB RAM
Hard
Drive:735 GB
Video Card:ATI Radeon HD 4200

If two such totally different systems both dislike the mod you used, why not play without it?  That one about the fade?

Assuming you have done something to make that 9400 GT beyond recovery, this game's requirements are pretty close to the same as what DA2 will need, although it will feature some Dx10 / Dx11 enhancements for those with high end PCs (just having a graphics card that has Dx11 enabled on it doesn't mean it will run at a good speed when faced with that next upward step).  If you want the Dx11, you want either the current "Fermi" generation of Geforce, GTX470 and up, or Radeon HD 5850 and up, along with the matching power supply upgrade to power them. 

To just play the Dx9 / Dx10 graphics, a GTS 450 or a Radeon HD 5770, one or the other, would be good (and not quite the same large size of a power supply upgrade).

Dragon Age Two

      Minimum:
      OS: Windows XP 32-bit with SP3
      OS: Windows Vista 32-bit with SP2
      OS: Windows 7 64-bit
      CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
      CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
      RAM: 1 GB (1.5 GB Vista and Windows 7)
      Video: Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB (should be 2600 XT or X1800 GTO)
      Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS 256 MB (or if the 2600 Pro is accurate, 7800 GS instead)
      Disc Drive: DVD ROM drive required
      Hard Drive: 7 GB
      Sound: Direct X 9.0c Compatible Sound Card Windows Experience Index: 4.5

    * Recommended:

      CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Processor or equivalent
      CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 Triple core 2.8 GHz or equivalent
      RAM: 2GB (4 GB Vista and Windows 7)
      Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
      Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater
      DirectX 11: ATI 5850 or greater
      DirectX 11: NVIDIA 460 or greater



Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 31 janvier 2011 - 11:07 .

[Moondoggie]

The Radeon HD5770 is a great choice right now price wise, It seems to have been reduced in price on many websites in the last few months so you're going to get a lot of power for your money.

[AquilusOrus]

Nah, my 9400 GT is stil in great shape. I just have to find the components to take it from low profile to normal. So for right now, I think I'm going to use that, since everyone says that should work perfectly well, and then look at further upgrading in a little bit.

Modifié par AquilusOrus, 31 janvier 2011 - 11:59 .

[Gorath Alpha]

AquilusOrus wrote...

Nah, my 9400 GT is stil in great shape. I just have to find the components to take it from low profile to normal. So for right now, I think I'm going to use that, since everyone says that should work perfectly well, and then look at further upgrading in a little bit.

That's not what I told you, really.  It's below the practical minimum, so you will have to make compromises once you can pinpoint something, such as eliminating the fade, that was the same both times, so stop using it.  The minimum should be able to run pretty steadily / smoothly at 25-35 FPS while running with "Low" graphics settings and "medium" resolution.  So, you choose between somewhat slower frame rates, or a lowered resolution to account for the difference in performance (somewhere between 20 and 25 FPS is where most people claim that smoothness is absent).  .

[AquilusOrus]

I have my sights on the HD5770 or the GTX 560 Ti but can't get ither at the moment. Probably end of February beginning of March. Hopefully that will be in time for DA2. 

Modifié par AquilusOrus, 01 février 2011 - 12:51 .