Cutlass Jack wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
She's not living on the flotila.This is more the key point. If you wanted to "cure" all Quarians it requires a radical enviroment shift for 17 million people.
...Or Mordin being very bored one afternoon.
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http://social.biowar...ex/1295538/4863James2912 wrote...
Talimancer safety tips:
Put a bag over Tali's head
Cover your ENTIRE body with plastic
cover Tali's entire body with plastic
poke a hole
Use Biohazard shower afterwards.
Modifié par Phantom Actuality, 31 janvier 2011 - 09:05 .
Modifié par James2912, 31 janvier 2011 - 09:08 .
Phantom Actuality wrote...
Alienmorph wrote...
It's always funny to see that Talifans are considered the "strange ones" and then in 1/2 of the topics about her rush an hudge group of "funny" people so happy of demonstrate that there're a lot of people more childish and jerkish than how much we're accused to be. I'm almost willingly to thank those people to be so silly. Almost.
AIDS? You really think is that funny doing such jokes only to spit on a fictional character?
Pwner1323 wrote...
Phantom Actuality wrote...
*Falls off couch laughing*
Firstly, mothers and their babies are of the same species, and have half of the same genes, so their immune systems are very similar, unlike Shepard's and Tali's, who are not only of different species but have completely opposite genetic chirality.
Secondly, exposing the immune system to weakened versions of diseases is only worthwhile if the patient actually has a working immune system that can handle it. It doesn't make the immune system stronger, per se, it just provides it with relevant antibodies and thus a means to fight the more dangerous infection. The whole point about the Quarians' immune systems is that they are already weak. It'd be like giving someone with AIDS a cowpox injection.
I think the only way Tali's allergies to human pathogens are going away is with gene therapy.
Machines Are Us wrote...
Alienmorph wrote...
It's always funny to see that Talifans are considered the "strange ones" and then in 1/2 of the topics about her rush an hudge group of "funny" people so happy of demonstrate that there're a lot of people more childish and jerkish than how much we're accused to be. I'm almost willingly to thank those people to be so silly. Almost.
AIDS? You really think is that funny doing such jokes only to spit on a fictional character?
I am in agreement.
It reminds me of when you get people who think it's sad to have any feelings over anything fictional but it;s perfectly okay to cry when your favourite sports team loses...
Alienmorph wrote...
It's always funny to see that Talifans are considered the "strange ones" and then in 1/2 of the topics about her rush an hudge group of "funny" people so happy of demonstrate that there're a lot of people more childish and jerkish than how much we're accused to be. I'm almost willingly to thank those people to be so silly. Almost.
AIDS? You really think is that funny doing such jokes only to spit on a fictional character?
BobSmith101 wrote...
Alienmorph wrote...
It's always funny to see that Talifans are considered the "strange ones" and then in 1/2 of the topics about her rush an hudge group of "funny" people so happy of demonstrate that there're a lot of people more childish and jerkish than how much we're accused to be. I'm almost willingly to thank those people to be so silly. Almost.
AIDS? You really think is that funny doing such jokes only to spit on a fictional character?
It's not exactly tasteful but is is a fairly accurate anology of the Quarians immune system.
You can already see what 90% of Talis face looks like anyway so most of the pictures are just childish. And given Shepards grin in the cut scene he's not disapointed at all.
SammyJB17 wrote...
My hypothesis: There will be hundreds of millions of possible permutations as for the ending of ME 3. In only *one*, you get the quarians a safe new homeworld, and they start to take off their mask and BAM. credits.
Machines Are Us wrote...
Alienmorph wrote...
*snip*
I am in agreement.
It reminds me of when you get people who think it's sad to have any feelings over anything fictional but it;s perfectly okay to cry when your favourite sports team loses...
James2912 wrote...
Key word is fictional
And I'm just trying to help people understand Tali's medical condition.
Tali=AIDS
BobSmith101 wrote...
They must have some sort of immune system or the events in the game could not take place. In the end that's the only "reality" that matters.
My theory is that because Tali seems to spend more time out in the field and less on the fleet hers seems to be stronger than the average Quarians.
Either the Quarian weakness is overstated or it's just her.
Bacteria could do this trick (they have own metabolysm), virii... Unlikely - they're only NA and protein. Only if virii contain a genes that could tell cells to synthesize required products, which can easily be replaced by normal genetic therapyScimal wrote...
Quarians do have an immune system, it's stated fairly frequently.
However, their immune system isn't the same as ours. Whereas ours evolved to fend off anything it didn't recognize by destroying it, Quarian immune systems evolved in a more symbiotic fashion. The best way I can imagine it is that there are a bunch of protective viruses that fight the fatal viruses, and the Quarian immune system is designed so that the protective ones will be encouraged to infect the host to fend off the more dangerous ones.
In first case, Quarians would be dead without any infection. In second - again, genetic therapy. And how immune system can't recognise friend or foe when it products response (allergy) on everything that moves?Now, if their immune system relied partially on other symbiotic virii, there's simply a chance that in their weakened state the protective versions became dangerous or that they're rare altogether, opening up the Quarians to millions of dangerous virii that their own immune systems would have trouble identifying as friend or foe.
No, it's not stated about the single type of amino acids on Rannoch, but Tali says she won't get a chickenpox if she'll even get that virus. So either transmutase doesn't exist or mutated virii don't have the same effect than original ones on original host, so environment is dangerous because of allergy, not because of real risk to get sickness.The question is whether or not there are enough viruses/bacteria to actually infect both S-chiral species and D-chiral species (also known as L and R respectively, for all purposes here). If the Quarian immune system has an enzyme that's able to translate S-chirality into D-chirality (since it's never explicitly said that their homeworld held ONLY D-chiral organisms) in order to seek out those few symbiotic virii, then they're in a lot of trouble and would exhibit a lot of illness when exposed to just about any amotsphere with organics humming around.
If the enzyme is also critical to other portions of their cell metabolism - perhaps it acts as both mRNA and L-D-transfigurase (or whatever you'd prefer to call it), in which case simply disabling the enzyme would kill everything. It might explain why they'd have to undergo lots of gene therapy to adapt to a new world - they'd have to fix the enzyme in all its permutations and make sure it's heritable while being more robust or selective than the current version their carrying around.
STG wrote...
It might immunize Tali to Shepard, not rest of the galaxy.
Siansonea II wrote...
The OP's question is not relevant to any of my playthroughs, since my Shepard's romanced other characters or avoided romance. But the writers could come up with all sorts of things to please the Talifolks. They've shown an extraordinary willingness to accommodate that group already. If only they were as eager to please the rest of us.
mineralica wrote...
Bacteria could do this trick (they have own metabolysm), virii... Unlikely - they're only NA and protein. Only if virii contain a genes that could tell cells to synthesize required products, which can easily be replaced by normal genetic therapy.
In first case, Quarians would be dead without any infection. In second - again, genetic therapy. And how immune system can't recognise friend or foe when it products response (allergy) on everything that moves?
No, it's not stated about the single type of amino acids on Rannoch, but Tali says she won't get a chickenpox if she'll even get that virus. So either transmutase doesn't exist or mutated virii don't have the same effect than original ones on original host, so environment is dangerous because of allergy, not because of real risk to get sickness.
Again - if the risk is because of allergic reaction, why immuno boosters are needed?
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