BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
If I was, I'd be ignoring all of Hackett's missions. I don't.
Public Perception
The aliens are just plain better at things.
You do the missions the Alliance can't handle that should tell you something.
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jbblue05 wrote...
So Shepard an Alliance Marine is publicly saying the Alliance is incompetent and has a lot to learn from other races but humanity should've a seat on the Council and human spectres.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 03 février 2011 - 07:32 .
Shepard will always be an Alliance Marine.BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
So Shepard an Alliance Marine is publicly saying the Alliance is incompetent and has a lot to learn from other races but humanity should've a seat on the Council and human spectres.
No longer an Alliance Marine he's a Spectre.
Theres nothing really public about it. Well maybe the results but not the methods.
Representation is not the same thing. As a Navy the Alliance can hold it's own but 100 Alliance Marines vs 100 Krogan Battlemasters... My money is on the Krogan.
Except it's not a distinction. It's an inclusion term. You can just as well say that it means there is no multi-racial human dominated Council for all the distinction it makes.didymos1120 wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
That's ambiguous, but not contradictory. A human-dominated multi-racial Council is human-led. An all-human Council is also human-led.
There's absolutely no point in specifying that an all-human council is human-led. Of course it's human-led. There's nothing else it could be. The only reason to even make the distinction is because it's not all-human.
One doesn't exclude the other.BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
So Shepard an Alliance Marine is publicly saying the Alliance is incompetent and has a lot to learn from other races but humanity should've a seat on the Council and human spectres.
No longer an Alliance Marine he's a Spectre.
jbblue05 wrote...
Shepard will always be an Alliance Marine.BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
So Shepard an Alliance Marine is publicly saying the Alliance is incompetent and has a lot to learn from other races but humanity should've a seat on the Council and human spectres.
No longer an Alliance Marine he's a Spectre.
Theres nothing really public about it. Well maybe the results but not the methods.
Representation is not the same thing. As a Navy the Alliance can hold it's own but 100 Alliance Marines vs 100 Krogan Battlemasters... My money is on the Krogan.
The Alliance nominated Shepard for spectre to advanced Alliance interests.
It is highly.public Shepard's success and failures will speak volumes about the Alliance and Humanity.
How about 100 N7 marines vs. 100 Krogan battlemasters.
If Kai Leng and Zaaed can kill a krogan with a knife anything is possible
Shepard has an Alliance crew and the most advanced Alliance warship he's still part of the Alliance he's on "loan" to the Citadel.BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
Shepard will always be an Alliance Marine.BobSmith101 wrote...
jbblue05 wrote...
So Shepard an Alliance Marine is publicly saying the Alliance is incompetent and has a lot to learn from other races but humanity should've a seat on the Council and human spectres.
No longer an Alliance Marine he's a Spectre.
Theres nothing really public about it. Well maybe the results but not the methods.
Representation is not the same thing. As a Navy the Alliance can hold it's own but 100 Alliance Marines vs 100 Krogan Battlemasters... My money is on the Krogan.
The Alliance nominated Shepard for spectre to advanced Alliance interests.
It is highly.public Shepard's success and failures will speak volumes about the Alliance and Humanity.
How about 100 N7 marines vs. 100 Krogan battlemasters.
If Kai Leng and Zaaed can kill a krogan with a knife anything is possible
He's obviously not since the Alliance can't actually compel him to do anything. They can request his aid but nothing more.
The Krogan would stll win. Krogan Battlemasters are just better warriors.
If you go back to ME1 humans are the average.
Krogan are tougher
Quarrians are smarter
Asari are better biotics.
If you have the option you take the best whatever it's source.
What makes Shepard special is he is the only person in the universe with a save/load function
jbblue05 wrote...
Shepard has an Alliance crew and the most advanced Alliance warship he's still part of the Alliance he's on "loan" to the Citadel.
The Alliance could be complte jackasses and take away your crew and the ship.
Think back to ME1 the only thing the COuncil gave you was a tag and intel they didnt give you the vital resources to accomplish your mission
Humans aren't average we're the most versatile, adaptive race
Krogan battlemaster usually sit back and pick enemies off while their subordinates draw away fire.
Widow Sniper rifle>>>>> Krogan battlemaster
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Except it's not a distinction. It's an inclusion term. You can just as well say that it means there is no multi-racial human dominated Council for all the distinction it makes.
Modifié par Pro_Consul, 03 février 2011 - 08:02 .
The Alliance could easily take away the Normandy SR1 because its Alliance property. Without the Alliance's resources Shepard is just a spectre with no means of transportatioBobSmith101 wrote...
Can't be the case since they can't give him orders. Of course they gave him a ship because he makes humanity look good if he succeeds. The most they could do was lock the ship down in ME so I don't see how they could take away the ship.
Versitle yes.
Humans - Jack of all trades master of none.
Alliens - Specialists in a particular area.
Humans can do everything but not as well as a particular alien can.
Versitility is nice when you are pushed for numbers but otherwise not needed.
Did you not read the description of the Widow ?
Anyway unless you can stop them regenerating they will be healed before you can get off your second shot. Seen it happen in the game.
Modifié par jbblue05, 03 février 2011 - 08:14 .
didymos1120 wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
That's ambiguous, but not contradictory. A human-dominated multi-racial Council is human-led. An all-human Council is also human-led.
There's absolutely no point in specifying that an all-human council is human-led. Of course it's human-led. There's nothing else it could be. The only reason to even make the distinction is because it's not all-human.
jbblue05 wrote...
The Alliance could easily take away the Normandy SR1 because its Alliance property. Without the Alliance's resources Shepard is just a spectre with no means of transportatio
Its not fair to say humans are just a jack of all trades, because we've only been on the galactic scene for 28 years while the other races have the reputation they built over a 1,000 years.
Projects like the Ascension project and on Subject Zero could prove that Humans can peak higher than Asari.
Most biotics doesn't equal best biotics.
Projects like Overlord and EDI can prove humans are better at controlling AI's than the Quarians
Beneftis from the CB can bolster and allow the Alliance militaary to surpass the Turian Heiarchy
Just because Krogans are the most durable warriors doesn't equal best overall warriors.
The Widow can be modded just like the Claymore.
The Widow is a common anti-vehicle weapon
If Jack is the strongest human biotic.... well She's no Liara or Samara put it that way.
The Alliance volunteered to give you the ship.BobSmith101 wrote...
They didn't do it in ME one because they couldn't.
It's evolution not reputation. A human is never going to be a tough as a Krogan.
If Jack is the strongest human biotic.... well She's no Liara or Samara put it that way.
If you can't be killed by what the enemy is shooting at you best does not really matter. Although a Krogan can tear a human appart in hand to hand anyway.
Whatever you can call on does not change that individual vs individual in their specialisation aliens are better than humans.
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Liara is the most unrealisticly powerful character in the ME:Series. Liara has no military training, no huntress training, and no commando training but she can gp toe-to-toe with an Asari Spectre and has powers that rival an Asari Matriarchs
No, it doesn't. Human-led simply means something is led by Human(s). It doesn't imply composition: it is as accurate for either.Pro_Consul wrote...
and the other assumes their presence on the Council.
Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 03 février 2011 - 08:41 .
jbblue05 wrote...
The Alliance volunteered to give you the ship.
Their is more to being a highly-skilled warrior than being a bullet-sponge.
Jack destroys 3 YMIR mechs with one biotic punch and puts the Purgatory ship in meltdown mode using just her biotics.
Just because you prefer Samara and Liara's talents in ME2 doesn't make them better biotics.
Liara is the most unrealisticly powerful character in the ME:Series. Liara has no military training, no huntress training, and no commando training but she can gp toe-to-toe with an Asari Spectre and has powers that rival an Asari Matriarchs
Krogans excel in close-range fighting but the Widow is best used at long-range.
You have personal preferecne, alien reputation and no facts to back up your claims
Xilizhra wrote...
So when you don't like a fact, you ignore it as being unrealistic, then? It just goes to show you that many of the biotic asari fighters you're going up against are average for their species; those with great talent, like Liara, can rival the power of one supercharged experiment with little training and also no possibility of neural degeneration. Face it, the asari have you beaten here.
You've lost all credibility by basing your argument around ME2 gameplay.and personal preferenceBobSmith101 wrote...
Yes it's then your ship. They could not take it back from you.
Best of luck seeing Jack do that in the game
Yes it does. As powerful as Jack is she is still only a human biotic. Not the strongest biotic. Asari are better at it.
It's called racial talent. Asari are natural biotics. Liara is just that stong deal with it.
Like I said if you can't kill something then range is not really factor.
Facts ?
Krogan Battle master 40 hp/s
Krogan Pureblood 55 hp/s
Human..... no hp/s
What's your point?
jbblue05 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
So when you don't like a fact, you ignore it as being unrealistic, then? It just goes to show you that many of the biotic asari fighters you're going up against are average for their species; those with great talent, like Liara, can rival the power of one supercharged experiment with little training and also no possibility of neural degeneration. Face it, the asari have you beaten here.
"Asari Commandos are the most feared warriors in the galaxy lucky for us their is not that many of them."
I would be more accepting of Liara's character being powerful if she actually had some commando training..
Liara being a super powerful biotic is like Verner for some reaon being an excellent soldier even though he doesn't have training.
Liara has access to SIngularity which is a move only Matriarchs and advanced Commanos can do
Gillian Grayson a 14 year old in the Ascension novel can produce a powerful SIngularity. Gillian's biotics are based off of Subject Zero.
Jack should have access to SIngularity also.
jbblue05 wrote...
You've lost all credibility by basing your argument around ME2 gameplay.and personal preference
The Asari are not better they just have reputation and a deeper biotic pool.
Can an Asari Commando beat a Krogan Battlemaster a 100/100 times. Can Asari Eclispe vanguard beat Vanguard or Adept Shepard a 100/100 times
Krogan can be killed
Modifié par BobSmith101, 03 février 2011 - 09:03 .
Xilizhra wrote...
Face it, she's just naturally that good. And considering how young she is, I doubt her potential has peaked, whereas Jack's almost certainly has. The asari have both a higher baseline and greater potential than humans in this area, and for humans to reach it requires extensive external modification. Plus leaving neural degeneration there.
How naturally good she is is never really established. Gameplay mechanics aside, she's another adept who happens to be on Shepard's team. In ME1, Jenkins was gameplay identical to Ashley. She's not a bad biotic by any means, but she's never exactly made out to be 'best of the best' material either, either in raw power or skill. Same with Alenko.Xilizhra wrote...
Face it, she's just naturally that good. And considering how young she is, I doubt her potential has peaked, whereas Jack's almost certainly has. The asari have both a higher baseline and greater potential than humans in this area, and for humans to reach it requires extensive external modification. Plus leaving neural degeneration there.
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