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[samurai crusade]

Pwner1323 wrote...

Here is the codex entry taken from the Mass Effect wiki:

Computers: Haptic Adaptive Interface

Advances in computing have done away with[i] traditional input devices like keyboards. Instead, modern input peripherals are usually holographically displayed in front of the user at a height and angle for ergonomic ease. Machines that use this interface detect a user through a microframe chip in the user's glove that "keys in" to the computer. Once a user is accepted, motion accelerometers in the user's gloves match his hands' location with that of a proportionate but smaller "mirror" set of controls inside the computer itself. As the user presses against the holographic field, force-feedback in the glove kicks in, giving a slight resistance. A person can feel his way through using a touch-screen that isn't actually there. A simple toggle switch on the back of the hands allows the glove to be turned off when not in use.
Haptic interfaces have become so common that some individuals undergo cybernetic enhancement surgery to have the accelerometers implanted in their fingertips. "Going bareskin" is the sign of a committed computer user who no longer has to fuss with putting on gloves or cleaning them with alcohol wipes to get rid of the clammy-hand smell.

The HAI is like carrying a personal keyboard and touchscreen.  Never once did it say you couldn't open a door or push a button. The people of ME are not so germaphobic that they need gloves all day.     It creates a virtual surface for which to work on.  Shep can still touch a physical object and interact with it.

[CroGamer002]

Last time I checked that's a hand, not elbow.

[Lapis Lazuli]

My thing was that realism dictates to me that I shouldn't trust all those elevators in the game. I'm like, boy, I would feel nervous getting on all these elevators in enemy bases and the like when in the fact is that any heavy with half a brain could sabotage them

[Display Name Owner]

Isn't that codex entry talking about implants that give the sense of resistance on the user's fingertips? So it feels like they're pressing an actual button rather than a simple holographic image?



Presumably something like an elevator button would have to be usable by anyone, and not everyone would have these implants or a set of special gloves on them.

[Exile Isan]

This is not a "huge" contradiction. Legion saying Shepard talked to Sovereign on Ilos is huge contradiction.

[didymos1120]

Exile Isan wrote...

This is not a "huge" contradiction. Legion saying Shepard talked to Sovereign on Ilos is huge contradiction.

That's not really "huge" either.  Someone just mixed up two planet names, and it slipped through.

[Lapis Lazuli]

Martin Sheen is like 5'7" and TIM is like 6'. That's a huge contradiction.

[Exile Isan]

didymos1120 wrote...
That's not really "huge" either.  Someone just mixed up two planet names, and it slipped through.

It's still bigger than this.

[Suron]

HAHAHAHAHAHA



HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA



no seriously.....



HAHAHAHAHAHA



of all the goddamn plot-holes, idiotic decisions, problems, inconsistencies, and liberal use of a plot-driven idiot stick...you're calling Shepard using his elbow to activate a holographic door switch a "huge contradiction"



how about Jacob's loyalty mission where there are mechs and they're using weapons that use thermal clips when it crashed YEARS before that tech was used.



how about Shepard working for Cerberus at all considering Kahoku (sp? don't care) and depending on his origin them being responsible for psychological stress....to name just a few.



how about the actual resurrection itself and the fact it makes no sense..and served no real purpose. how about them "reviving" him after his body somehow survived re-entry..esp considering the damage. how about him not having any kind of brain-damage because of this? Hell people get brain damage thanks to an aneurysm, or lack of air, stroke, etc and it destroys parts of the brain that cannot be replaced...how wasn't shepard a blithering, drooling, moron after being revived?



nah that's all fine and good..but DAMN THAT ELBOW OPENING A DOOR!!!!!!!!!!

[Lapis Lazuli]

Suron wrote...

how about Jacob's loyalty mission where there are mechs and they're using weapons that use thermal clips when it crashed YEARS before that tech was used.

Shep knew about thermal clips as soon as he woke up and grabbed a gun

[Silmane]

Lapis Lazuli wrote...

Suron wrote...

how about Jacob's loyalty mission where there are mechs and they're using weapons that use thermal clips when it crashed YEARS before that tech was used.

Shep knew about thermal clips as soon as he woke up and grabbed a gun

That isn't his point. The clips shouldn't even be in the mission, bar Shepard's crew. 

Shepard is a trained N7 marine. I would assume he knows how to load a clip into a gun. 

[Suron]

Lapis Lazuli wrote...

Suron wrote...

how about Jacob's loyalty mission where there are mechs and they're using weapons that use thermal clips when it crashed YEARS before that tech was used.

Shep knew about thermal clips as soon as he woke up and grabbed a gun

now for this though does the time-frame line up that thermal clips were not around when shep was "killed"? I don't recall exact dates for either being given.

so honestly...this is one of the things that is really a non-issue...kinda like this threads title.

[Lapis Lazuli]

Silmane wrote...

Lapis Lazuli wrote...

Suron wrote...

how about Jacob's loyalty mission where there are mechs and they're using weapons that use thermal clips when it crashed YEARS before that tech was used.

Shep knew about thermal clips as soon as he woke up and grabbed a gun

That isn't his point. The clips shouldn't even be in the mission, bar Shepard's crew. 

Shepard is a trained N7 marine. I would assume he knows how to load a clip into a gun. 

I understood his point. My point was that there is a further issue in that thermal clips weren't in ME1. So they had to be invented between the end of ME1 and Shep's plunge in order for him to know as soon as he woke up.

[Moiaussi]

Suron wrote...

now for this though does the time-frame line up that thermal clips were not around when shep was "killed"? I don't recall exact dates for either being given.

so honestly...this is one of the things that is really a non-issue...kinda like this threads title.

But the clips had to have been invented after ME1, i.e. within the last two years. That ship allegedly crashed 10 years ago. hence, the plot hole.

[Sajuro]

Moiaussi wrote...

Suron wrote...

now for this though does the time-frame line up that thermal clips were not around when shep was "killed"? I don't recall exact dates for either being given.

so honestly...this is one of the things that is really a non-issue...kinda like this threads title.

But the clips had to have been invented after ME1, i.e. within the last two years. That ship allegedly crashed 10 years ago. hence, the plot hole.

Oooooor they were the Heatsink upgrade from ME1, they just started being made cheaply enough for that kind of use. The Gernsback was taking a large shipment when it sank and they used them for their mechs.

[didymos1120]

Exile Isan wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
That's not really "huge" either.  Someone just mixed up two planet names, and it slipped through.

It's still bigger than this.

Well, yeah.  I'm with you on that.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

I DEMAND BIOWARE REMAKE ME2 AND FIX THIS GLARING PLOT HOLE

[dreman9999]

Konfined wrote...

Shepard hits the button with their fist, not their elbow.

http://www.youtube.c...8_PSrX24#t=305s

How this thread is still alive after this was posted isa contradiction in it self.
http://www.youtube.c...8_PSrX24#t=305s
Click the link people!!!!!!

[MajorStranger]

Pwner1323 wrote...

Konfined wrote...

Shepard hits the button with their fist, not their elbow.

http://www.youtube.c...8_PSrX24#t=305s

Looks like pwner has been pwned!

[Sursion]

^ YYEEEEEAAAAAAAH!

Modifié par Sursion, 06 février 2011 - 06:09 .

[didymos1120]

MajorStranger wrote...

Looks like pwner has been pwned!

Yeah, five days ago in fact.

Modifié par didymos1120, 06 février 2011 - 06:47 .

[James2912]

I honestly think that pawner was being sarcastic when he made this thread, which I assume is a parody of some of the other threads on here.

[London]

Except a parody makes some attempt to be humorous. The OP was totally serious about this "discovery." Also the photo above shows that Shephard's hand is wearing gloves; wouldn't it be safe to assume that is security/millitary wears gauntlets that those gauntlets would be programed to be able to enable an elevator?



Or in the heat of battle or a hot pursuit, they would have to take off gauntlets and slip on special elevator gloves?



Come on.



What a waste of time this thread is. lol

[Pro_Consul]

Pwner1323 wrote...

^It's still a hologram, which you need an activator. Contradiction or not, it's still wrong.

You don't know that it needs a glove. The Haptic Adaptive Interface needs a glove, true, but have you considered that that may be because it is being used as complex holographic replacement for a touchscreen computer input/output system? When a hologram is used as nothing more than a simple, big, red button who is to say that it must be equipped with a virtual touchscreen Haptic Adaptic Interface? Seriously, dude, who would design a frelling elevator that required special interface gloves or implants just to make it go "UP"?

[Pro_Consul]

James2912 wrote...

I honestly think that pawner was being sarcastic when he made this thread, which I assume is a parody of some of the other threads on here.

I would like to think so. But if so it is lacking the humor normally considered to be an integral part of parodies.