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#26
Kuroi Kenshi

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It's the same as Dead Space 2
  

It does not install anything to the PC.

Thank god for that

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the_one_54321

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Reaverwind wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
- Each install requires logging in to your EA account to verify game ownership and if you are a member of these forums, you have an EA account.
- You can play offline but the game will require a login check after a select period of days.

I'm not too happy about these. I'm not going to have any problems with my internet connection pretty much ever, but for something is going to be a real problem. Also it still leaves the issue of "what happens when EA no longer exists?"

Surprise - you paid for a rental.

It does sound like their way of enforcing the notion that you're not actually allowed to own the game...

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What is that for 360 aswell? That would be.. really weird.. I mean the only game i've heard of to have anything like that before was lotr conquest and that caused me to completly mess up my gamertags EA account, so much that i had to make a second gamertag to somewhat resolve it.. Oh, and that would also mean i would have to play through all the content a 52 time.. though i'm okay with that..

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Are there any info on after how many select days the game will require us to log in? And will be there be enough server capacity to do this - I am, of course thinking about some recent and current events, especially with the latest Assasin's Creed game. Note, though, that this is just information, and me worrying a bit. If people want to discuss this, they should do it in the thread where we're discussing this,



I also sincerely hope, you're aware that many people, both in the US and in Europe, still have dial-up connections, or a set limit to bandwidth (MB or GB they can use pr. month). I think Australians are especially hit hard in this area - meaning that people in Australia, and in most development countries doesn't have access to high speed bandwidth internet like we in Europe, the US and Canada. And even in Europe, I know that in certain places in the North of Sweden and in the Nort hof Norway, people maybe only have very irregular dial-up internet. Again, this is just information provided and no to be discussed here. I'll guess that these people will have to play offline then...




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the_one_54321 wrote...

It does sound like their way of enforcing the notion that you're not actually allowed to own the game...

It isn't a notion, it's a fact, you don't own the game.

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Well it's not all doom & gloom. The game is a guaranteed purchase for me now anyway.

But re-authorising every few days is a bit of a throwback to Mass Effect & Spore's initial DRM scheme. I'm pretty sure the PC gaming community did not react positively to that particular announcement.

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So it's less a kick in the junk and more of an uncomfortable groping. Meh, I guess I'll deal with it. Certainly makes one appreciate Companies like CD Project Red more in that they don't immediately assume you stole your game.

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All those worried about ea disappearing and no more servers for thew game to check should chill. Drm is defeated within days of release anyway. I don't know why developers waste their effort on it, it only annoys the paying customers like us.

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Sounds fine. Same as Dead Space 2 and I didn't have any problems there.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

- You can play offline but the game will require a login check after a select period of days.


I disapprove. Logging in in DAO made DLC items and locations randomly disappear, and then I'd save before I realized it and it was ****.

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Edit: Post removed. See instructions in OP. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 31 janvier 2011 - 09:25 .


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Hopefully this explains the DRM included in Dragon Age 2.

If you still have questions, please ask them here. However, this thread is NOT for the general discussion of DRM, the pros and cons of other DRM systems or any talk about circumventing DRM (which is against the rules of conduct and will be diciplined as such). Thanks. :)


Thank you. So my pre-order is on schedule and I can now hang up the Kirkwall Gate litho too.

Question: Assuming that 'something' is being installed as a form of DRM along with the game; once the game is uninstalled, everything will be uninstalled (unlike SecuRom on ME1)?

Modifié par ----9-----, 31 janvier 2011 - 10:35 .


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filaminstrel wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

- You can play offline but the game will require a login check after a select period of days.


I disapprove. Logging in in DAO made DLC items and locations randomly disappear, and then I'd save before I realized it and it was ****.


Don't buy DLC - problem solved.

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The store I usually order from usually delivers stuff a day early. That's going to be pure anguish.

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Reaverwind wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

I disapprove. Logging in in DAO made DLC items and locations randomly disappear, and then I'd save before I realized it and it was ****.


Don't buy DLC - problem solved.


...but I want it.

I imagine the more practical solution is simply logging in for the "login check" and then logging back out before starting to play. But that sounds annoying.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

You can play offline but the game will require a login check after a select period of days.

This is the only part to which I object, and I would not object if it had a sunset clause on it.

If I buy a game, I want to know that I'll be able to play that game 20 years from now assuming I maintain compatible hardware.  I go to great lengths to maintain compatible hardware and operating systems for old games, but these online checks prevent me from being able to have confidence that I'll be able to use the product on some undetermined future date.

I do have a regular internet connection on my gaming PC, but I don't think I should have to.

So, here's my question...

Can we install patches and DLC on the Steam version without using Steam to do it?

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filaminstrel wrote...
I imagine the more practical solution is simply logging in for the "login check" and then logging back out before starting to play. But that sounds annoying.

No disk check needed. That's been replaced with repeated login checks that take the same amount of time. ;)

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Select period of days = how many days?

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In 10 or 20 years, maybe DA: Origins and DA2 will be on GOG DRM free; at least that would be my guess. Also, many games from 1985 to 1995 can't be played on modern computers....

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

This is the only part to which I object, and I would not object if it had a sunset clause on it.

If I buy a game, I want to know that I'll be able to play that game 20 years from now assuming I maintain compatible hardware.  I go to great lengths to maintain compatible hardware and operating systems for old games, but these online checks prevent me from being able to have confidence that I'll be able to use the product on some undetermined future date.

I do have a regular internet connection on my gaming PC, but I don't think I should have to.


I don't often agree with you, Sylvius, but I agree 100% with this statement. 

There is only one thing to which I want an answer.  How many days between required checks, in case I want to bring my computer with me on an extended visit somewhere without internet?

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RosaAquafire wrote...

Select period of days = how many days?


I'm curious as well.

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Will there be an online check for DLC every time you load the game?

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the_one_54321 wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...
I imagine the more practical solution is simply logging in for the "login check" and then logging back out before starting to play. But that sounds annoying.

No disk check needed. That's been replaced with repeated login checks that take the same amount of time. ;)


Considering the unstellar performance of EA's servers, that's untrue.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

This is the only part to which I object


Given that you need the servers on-line to install the game in the first place, I'm not sure a regular check-in really makes things worse. Anyone without a reliable/always-on internet connection has reason to be upset, but it seems to me the rest of us are no more, or less, disadvantaged by the check-in than we already were by the presence of on-line authentication.

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I would not object if it had a sunset clause on it.


I'd like a sunset clause on on-line activation in general. But as someone else said, aside from CD Projekt, no publisher these days really seems to get it. Aside from GoG, or the increasingly rare game that uses only a disk check for boxed copies, what game is not dependent on some server or another?

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the_one_54321

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Reaverwind wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...
I imagine the more practical solution is simply logging in for the "login check" and then logging back out before starting to play. But that sounds annoying.

No disk check needed. That's been replaced with repeated login checks that take the same amount of time. ;)

Considering the unstellar performance of EA's servers, that's untrue.

Lol, good point. ^_^